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Purchase Price to Rent Ratio
MatataMingi
#1 Posted : Thursday, January 10, 2013 10:51:41 AM
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Hi Guys,

Any one know what is the above ratio.

I am renting a house for 150K per month.
the landlord is willing to sell, and has asked me to make an offer.

- The house is in Kilimani area
- half acre, freehold.
- 4 bedrooms, 2 double en suite,The other 2 single bedrooms share a bathroom
- It is an old house, built in 1960. So the fittings etc. are not great, and I will have to spend quite a lot on improvements. Maybe about 2 million.

Thank you guys for your help.
Vj
#2 Posted : Thursday, January 10, 2013 11:05:25 AM
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In this case it wouldn't be advisable to use the price/rent ratio because the land sitting under the house is way more valuable than the house itself.

If the plot is on a sewer line it could easily be worth over 80M. buy the land if you can, you won't regret it.
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wilyum
#3 Posted : Thursday, January 10, 2013 12:23:52 PM
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for hw long have u rented @150k?
Fair_Car_Dealer
#4 Posted : Thursday, January 10, 2013 12:58:16 PM
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MatataMingi:

As VJ has pointed out, the basis for pricing the property is the value of the land, and not the rent paid.

Given how valuable the land is, you are better off not repairing the house but thinking of developing the land with townhouses/apartments. The units you develop will most likely be worth 2 times to more than 4 times what you paid for the land, depending on what you construct, when you start the project, the cost of financing, your available capital, among other factors.

You may want to get an informal valuation opinion from a valuer or real estate agent who is familiar with Kilimani. Recent comparable property sales should be able to give you the appropriate market price of the property.

Also, just to emphasize, the answer to your question about the basis for pricing the property is not the purchase price to rent ratio.

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mlennyma
#5 Posted : Thursday, January 10, 2013 1:57:56 PM
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Some of this theories dont work in nairobi may be in other areas,just like properties in nairobi fetch more than their true value due to stretched demand.
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#6 Posted : Thursday, January 10, 2013 3:38:54 PM
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The value of land is around 50 to 100m. The cost of a bungalow on the land is around 10m. The rental value of such land is when a minimum of 5 storeys have been constructed. This can bring in rental value of 5000m2 x kes 1000 per m2=5m per month at current rates.
This will assist you to make a good offer.
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MatataMingi
#7 Posted : Thursday, January 10, 2013 3:44:35 PM
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Thank you guys.

Vj. the location where the house is does not allow townhouses / apartments - not at the moment anyway. this of course can change.

Plus 80M is way above my reach.
I was thinking of putting in an offer for 25M.
Maybe that wont work.
a4architect.com
#8 Posted : Thursday, January 10, 2013 3:53:41 PM
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land use is controled by NCC. If the title is still under residential use, all you need is to apply for change of user to commercial and it will be automatically granted since this is in line with NCC land use for the area. You can get lucky with the 25m offer so its still worth to try...
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#9 Posted : Thursday, January 10, 2013 11:31:16 PM
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Matata - If the final price is way above your reach, you can co-opt other people as long as you price is at a discount.
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ali
#10 Posted : Friday, January 11, 2013 1:40:03 PM
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wilyum wrote:
for hw long have u rented @150k?


Haleluya...150K?
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