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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,330 Location: Masada
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Wonders will never seize. This is the same guy who left Pambaa'a party 1 year ago because Pambaa's camp inclined towards consensus in choosing the ODM flag bearer while Messi wanted nothing other than DELEGATE. Now he prefers a consensus and not delegate in the Jubilee camp! These people are just the same and I always tell people that Messi is not who they think he is. They are all the same as OAR while OAR is also the same to them.  Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/30/2008 Posts: 6,029
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Pamba also finally accepts the consensus he refused in 2007 in his ticket with Kalonzo and also backs shuttle diplomacy.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/2/2011 Posts: 4,818 Location: -1.2107, 36.8831
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Consesus or not, Uhuru's chance of been in government solely depends on him supporting and campaigning for Musalia 'Macharia' Mudavadi. Otherwise, we will be hearing about Uhuru when travelling to, while at, and, when coming back from The Hague. Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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Jamaa simply believes in kupewa....bure kabisa!!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,330 Location: Masada
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mawinder wrote:Pamba also finally accepts the consensus he refused in 2007 in his ticket with Kalonzo and also backs shuttle diplomacy. So all these people are the same and I dont know why "we" the voters hate one another so much. Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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Impunity wrote:Wonders will never seize.
This is the same guy who left Pambaa'a party 1 year ago because Pambaa's camp inclined towards consensus in choosing the ODM flag bearer while Messi wanted nothing other than DELEGATE. Mdvd knows he will lose if there's voting of any kind. UK is polling 30% while mdvd is on single digits in the opinion polls. He can only go through if UK lets him. I'm beginning to doubt if Mdvd if the right man for the job. The lunjes have always been non-tribal but this time with Eugine and all the lunj leaders saying they will only back Jubilee if mdvd is endorsed, now isn't that the height of tribalism?
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/2/2011 Posts: 4,818 Location: -1.2107, 36.8831
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McReggae wrote:Jamaa simply believes in kupewa....bure kabisa!!!! In 2002, Uhuru was given or fought for it? In 2002, Kibaki was given or fought for it? In 2007, Kibaki was given or fought for it? In 2012, Obama was given or fought for it? In 2012, Raila will be given or fight for it? ODM is trying to present Uhuru as a strong opponent because they know he is the weakest opponent that even Kingwa Kamencu can beat if put head-on. Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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dunkang wrote:McReggae wrote:Jamaa simply believes in kupewa....bure kabisa!!!! In 2002, Uhuru was given or fought for it? In 2002, Kibaki was given or fought for it? In 2007, Kibaki was given or fought for it? In 2012, Obama was given or fought for it? In 2012, Raila will be given or fight for it? ODM is trying to present Uhuru as a strong opponent because they know he is the weakest opponent that even Kingwa Kamencu can beat if put head-on. Uhuru is stronger than Madvd, by the way our side is ready for any of them, bring on that Macharia!!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,330 Location: Masada
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2012 wrote:Impunity wrote:Wonders will never seize.
This is the same guy who left Pambaa'a party 1 year ago because Pambaa's camp inclined towards consensus in choosing the ODM flag bearer while Messi wanted nothing other than DELEGATE. Mdvd knows he will lose if there's voting of any kind. UK is polling 30% while mdvd is on single digits in the opinion polls. He can only go through if UK lets him. I'm beginning to doubt if Mdvd if the right man for the job. The lunjes have always been non-tribal but this time with Eugine and all the lunj leaders saying they will only back Jubilee if mdvd is endorsed, now isn't that the height of tribalism? Wasnt surprised by Jirongo but Eunice completely caught me by great surprise. So tribal is Eunice. Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/24/2009 Posts: 5,909 Location: Nairobi
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dunkang wrote:McReggae wrote:Jamaa simply believes in kupewa....bure kabisa!!!! In 2002, Uhuru was given or fought for it? In 2002, Kibaki was given or fought for it? In 2007, Kibaki was given or fought for it? In 2012, Obama was given or fought for it? In 2012, Raila will be given or fight for it? ODM is trying to present Uhuru as a strong opponent because they know he is the weakest opponent that even Kingwa Kamencu can beat if put head-on. How many delegates does UK and Messy have in that coalition? Between iT.NA and UDF, which is more popular?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/5/2010 Posts: 2,061 Location: Nairobi
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Impunity wrote:Wonders will never seize. This is the same guy who left Pambaa'a party 1 year ago because Pambaa's camp inclined towards consensus in choosing the ODM flag bearer while Messi wanted nothing other than DELEGATE. Now he prefers a consensus and not delegate in the Jubilee camp! These people are just the same and I always tell people that Messi is not who they think he is. They are all the same as OAR while OAR is also the same to them. Cease @Impunity ..Wonders will never cease  ...otherwise I agree with the rest of your arguments
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 2,038 Location: GA
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McReggae wrote:dunkang wrote:McReggae wrote:Jamaa simply believes in kupewa....bure kabisa!!!! In 2002, Uhuru was given or fought for it? In 2002, Kibaki was given or fought for it? In 2007, Kibaki was given or fought for it? In 2012, Obama was given or fought for it? In 2012, Raila will be given or fight for it? ODM is trying to present Uhuru as a strong opponent because they know he is the weakest opponent that even Kingwa Kamencu can beat if put head-on. Uhuru is stronger than Madvd, by the way our side is ready for any of them, bring on that Macharia!!!! reports indicate ababu and most western mps are waiting for tomorrow to crossover expected UDF tsunami not even wetangula will with stand @mc confirm
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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@madollar, you are smoking something bro, now Madvd threatens to bolt out if they insist on voting, this guy should man up!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/24/2009 Posts: 5,909 Location: Nairobi
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McReggae wrote:@madollar, you are smoking something bro, now Madvd threatens to bolt out if they insist on voting, this guy should man up!!! @McDoba, I thought they already agreed on nominations through the delegates system? It looks like Messy will bolt...question..to where? He has depreciated in value at an alarming rate...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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dunkang wrote:ODM is trying to present Uhuru as a strong opponent because they know he is the weakest opponent that even Kingwa Kamencu can beat if put head-on. If ODM strategy is based on what Jubilee is doing then that is a desperate and loser's strategy. But I understand why RAO feels so threatened by UK. Btw, do you know that in the 2027 elections, third elections from 2013 UK will still be younger than RAO is now?!
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,330 Location: Masada
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nostoppingthis wrote:McReggae wrote:@madollar, you are smoking something bro, now Madvd threatens to bolt out if they insist on voting, this guy should man up!!! @McDoba, I thought they already agreed on nominations through the delegates system? It looks like Messy will bolt...question..to where? He has depreciated in value at an alarming rate... He will bolt back to Pambaa so that the Luhjya votes will finally be consolidated. Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/24/2009 Posts: 5,909 Location: Nairobi
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2012 wrote:dunkang wrote:ODM is trying to present Uhuru as a strong opponent because they know he is the weakest opponent that even Kingwa Kamencu can beat if put head-on. If ODM strategy is based on what Jubilee is doing then that is a desperate and loser's strategy. But I understand why RAO feels so threatened by UK.Btw, do you know that in the 2027 elections, third elections from 2013 UK will still be younger than RAO is now?! Why would he be threatened by UK? Infact RAO said farasi ni wawili, and you know who he wanted to face at the elections 2013....you guessed right!! 
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/24/2009 Posts: 5,909 Location: Nairobi
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Impunity wrote:nostoppingthis wrote:McReggae wrote:@madollar, you are smoking something bro, now Madvd threatens to bolt out if they insist on voting, this guy should man up!!! @McDoba, I thought they already agreed on nominations through the delegates system? It looks like Messy will bolt...question..to where? He has depreciated in value at an alarming rate... He will bolt back to Pambaa so that the Luhjya votes will finally be consolidated. It would be very stupid for ODM to accept this Messy back into the fold...the same ODM saved his political career after he was offered VP, and lost to Akaranga...not again!!!
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/12/2007 Posts: 391
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nostoppingthis wrote:McReggae wrote:@madollar, you are smoking something bro, now Madvd threatens to bolt out if they insist on voting, this guy should man up!!! @McDoba, I thought they already agreed on nominations through the delegates system? It looks like Messy will bolt...question..to where? He has depreciated in value at an alarming rate... Going by the coded words and body language within the Jubilee Pillars, methinks we are only waiting for a mock nomination exercise, that will help appease the supporters of whoever ''loses fairly''(read UK). They already decided on MM but how to let the cat from the bag without a backlash from tribal chauvinists in their rank n file has been the dilemma.To test waters, this truth had actually been intentionally leaked to the 40 MPs who recently cried foul. BTW, if serious nominations are held with each party producing equal no. of delegates, then the king will be made by URP's delegates. Age is transforming me into an Elder;becoz Admin hasn't made me one.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/5/2010 Posts: 2,061 Location: Nairobi
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Impunity wrote:nostoppingthis wrote:McReggae wrote:@madollar, you are smoking something bro, now Madvd threatens to bolt out if they insist on voting, this guy should man up!!! @McDoba, I thought they already agreed on nominations through the delegates system? It looks like Messy will bolt...question..to where? He has depreciated in value at an alarming rate... He will bolt back to Pambaa so that the Luhjya votes will finally be consolidated. Not without serious loss of face- not to mention not being on the inked CORD deal, which means he can be accommodated, but will be dealt out of power if the RAO-Kalonzo axis take it . I think this TNA bunch have him exactly where they want him- they have bound him rendering him useless to any other coalition, but they will outmaneuver him from the center of power. Master stroke. True Machiavellian scheming by UMK & WSR ...doffing my hat off. Waaah!
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