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obiero
#21 Posted : Saturday, April 25, 2015 7:15:27 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
obiero wrote:
out of 62 listed firms 13 are already in trouble.. is the economy really growing??

mismanagement and corruption doesn't know economic growth

banks will eventually take a hit. they cannot sustain their growth at the expense of all others

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
hisah
#22 Posted : Thursday, April 30, 2015 6:54:26 AM
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obiero wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
obiero wrote:
out of 62 listed firms 13 are already in trouble.. is the economy really growing??

mismanagement and corruption doesn't know economic growth

banks will eventually take a hit. they cannot sustain their growth at the expense of all others

The storm is gaining strength going by this previous readings.

http://www.businessdaily...6/-/3db7pm/-/index.html
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Sober
#23 Posted : Thursday, April 30, 2015 11:44:16 AM
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Joined: 11/27/2007
Posts: 3,604
hisah wrote:
obiero wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
obiero wrote:
out of 62 listed firms 13 are already in trouble.. is the economy really growing??

mismanagement and corruption doesn't know economic growth

banks will eventually take a hit. they cannot sustain their growth at the expense of all others

The storm is gaining strength going by this previous readings.

http://www.businessdaily...6/-/3db7pm/-/index.html

are you trying to suggest that the CGT imlementation is affecting the current at the bourse.... I beg to differ
we are being charged a percentage of the gains which is far much lower as compared to the brockerage fee which is subjected to the overall amount transacted
African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
hisah
#24 Posted : Thursday, April 30, 2015 4:36:23 PM
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Sober wrote:
hisah wrote:
obiero wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
obiero wrote:
out of 62 listed firms 13 are already in trouble.. is the economy really growing??

mismanagement and corruption doesn't know economic growth

banks will eventually take a hit. they cannot sustain their growth at the expense of all others

The storm is gaining strength going by this previous readings.

http://www.businessdaily...6/-/3db7pm/-/index.html

are you trying to suggest that the CGT implementation is affecting the current at the bourse.... I beg to differ
we are being charged a percentage of the gains which is far much lower as compared to the brockerage fee which is subjected to the overall amount transacted.

The link I posted has nothing to do with CGT. If you opened the link you'd have seen the article was discussing the 2014 dismal econ performance. Storm in this case refers to the bull barriers lining up in the market due to the expected subpar performance by several companies if the econ extends this trend in 2015.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
obiero
#25 Posted : Thursday, April 30, 2015 9:12:40 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,475
Location: nairobi
hisah wrote:
Sober wrote:
hisah wrote:
obiero wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
obiero wrote:
out of 62 listed firms 13 are already in trouble.. is the economy really growing??

mismanagement and corruption doesn't know economic growth

banks will eventually take a hit. they cannot sustain their growth at the expense of all others

The storm is gaining strength going by this previous readings.

http://www.businessdaily...6/-/3db7pm/-/index.html

are you trying to suggest that the CGT implementation is affecting the current at the bourse.... I beg to differ
we are being charged a percentage of the gains which is far much lower as compared to the brockerage fee which is subjected to the overall amount transacted.

The link I posted has nothing to do with CGT. If you opened the link you'd have seen the article was discussing the 2014 dismal econ performance. Storm in this case refers to the bull barriers lining up in the market due to the expected subpar performance by several companies if the econ extends this trend in 2015.

True. Even the banks will come to a crawl. If economy shrinks, manufacturing costs rise, production slows, profits dip, job lost, loans defaulted, deposits fade, insecurity rises.. Its not looking good at all

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
GGK
#26 Posted : Thursday, April 30, 2015 9:33:08 PM
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Add inflation and weakening Kenya shilling into the fray and you have recipe for disaster. We could be heading to stormy waters. And when are getting the new Governor at CBK?
"..I am because we are. "― Ubuntu, Umtu,
obiero
#27 Posted : Wednesday, August 19, 2015 9:57:59 PM
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GGK wrote:
Add inflation and weakening Kenya shilling into the fray and you have recipe for disaster. We could be heading to stormy waters. And when are getting the new Governor at CBK?

Alot has changed since April. The governor checked into office, dollar hammered the shilling to plus 100, the 91 day Tbill is now approaching 18bob and Mumias today released a profit warning

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
Pesa Nane
#28 Posted : Thursday, August 20, 2015 8:58:02 AM
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obiero wrote:
GGK wrote:
Add inflation and weakening Kenya shilling into the fray and you have recipe for disaster. We could be heading to stormy waters. And when are getting the new Governor at CBK?

Alot has changed since April. The governor checked into office, dollar hammered the shilling to plus 100, the 91 day Tbill is now approaching 18bob and Mumias today released a profit warning

Shame on you
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
obiero
#29 Posted : Thursday, August 20, 2015 6:53:22 PM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
obiero wrote:
GGK wrote:
Add inflation and weakening Kenya shilling into the fray and you have recipe for disaster. We could be heading to stormy waters. And when are getting the new Governor at CBK?

Alot has changed since April. The governor checked into office, dollar hammered the shilling to plus 100, the 91 day Tbill is now approaching 18bob and Mumias today released a profit warning

Shame on you

Hehe. Wacha kunifact check haraka.. Give it two weeks uone :)

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
Pesa Nane
#30 Posted : Friday, August 21, 2015 8:42:51 AM
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obiero wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
obiero wrote:
GGK wrote:
Add inflation and weakening Kenya shilling into the fray and you have recipe for disaster. We could be heading to stormy waters. And when are getting the new Governor at CBK?

Alot has changed since April. The governor checked into office, dollar hammered the shilling to plus 100, the 91 day Tbill is now approaching 18bob and Mumias today released a profit warning

Shame on you

Hehe. Wacha kunifact check haraka.. Give it two weeks uone :)

18 bob? 18%??
Anyway, I passed all those shabby 12-15% corporate bonds, now patiently awaiting your 18-20% Drool GOK bonds / T-Bills (esp. the tax efficient infrastructure bond)
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
obiero
#31 Posted : Friday, August 21, 2015 8:22:36 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
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Pesa Nane wrote:
obiero wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
obiero wrote:
GGK wrote:
Add inflation and weakening Kenya shilling into the fray and you have recipe for disaster. We could be heading to stormy waters. And when are getting the new Governor at CBK?

Alot has changed since April. The governor checked into office, dollar hammered the shilling to plus 100, the 91 day Tbill is now approaching 18bob and Mumias today released a profit warning

Shame on you

Hehe. Wacha kunifact check haraka.. Give it two weeks uone :)

18 bob? 18%??
Anyway, I passed all those shabby 12-15% corporate bonds, now patiently awaiting your 18-20% Drool GOK bonds / T-Bills (esp. the tax efficient infrastructure bond)

18%

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
Boris Boyka
#32 Posted : Tuesday, September 01, 2015 7:26:23 AM
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obiero wrote:
Boris Boyka wrote:
FY 2014
1. Home Afrika
2. Pan Africa
3. TPS
4. Crown Paints
5. Transcentury
6. Sameer Africa
7. Sasini
8. Williamson Tea
9. Kapchorua Tea
10. Mumias
11. East African Portland Cement Company (EAPCC)
12. Rea Vipingo....Of course KQsmile

KQ & Panafrica are the only firms likely to exit the profit dip/loss zone.. Kwa hizo zingine poleni tena sana..

Some firms have refused to come out of that List.
Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
Boris Boyka
#33 Posted : Tuesday, September 01, 2015 7:33:59 AM
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FY 2015
1. Home Afrika
2. SGL
3. Express
4. Crown Paints
5. E A Cables
6. Sameer Africa
7. Britam
8. KQ
9.Mumias
10. Uchumi
11. C & G

Have i forgoten any or wrongly included some?
Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
hisah
#34 Posted : Tuesday, September 01, 2015 10:42:54 AM
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Joined: 8/4/2010
Posts: 8,977
Boris Boyka wrote:
FY 2015
1. Home Afrika
2. SGL
3. Express
4. Crown Paints
5. E A Cables
6. Sameer Africa
7. Britam
8. KQ
9.Mumias
10. Uchumi
11. C & G

Have i forgoten any or wrongly included some?

If things don't change in Q3 the likes of CFC and SCBK will be issuing profit warnings! As well as ARM if H2 doesn't improve.

Forex losses will chew off good performances and if a firm is struggling in H1 they'll likely issue a profit warning in H2. I hope CMA will force these firms to toe the line by announcing the profit warnings in advance, not a day/week before the results! The actualization of these profit warnings is what will tie down the bull legs into 2016.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
snipermnoma
#35 Posted : Friday, December 25, 2015 11:29:10 AM
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Joined: 1/3/2014
Posts: 257
Boris Boyka wrote:
FY 2015
1. Home Afrika
2. SGL
3. Express
4. Crown Paints
5. E A Cables
6. Sameer Africa
7. Britam
8. KQ
9.Mumias
10. Uchumi
11. C & G

Have i forgoten any or wrongly included some?


TPS
BOC
Atlas
ARM
StanChart
murchr
#36 Posted : Tuesday, December 29, 2015 7:03:11 PM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,979
snipermnoma wrote:
Boris Boyka wrote:
FY 2015
1. Home Afrika
2. SGL
3. Express
4. Crown Paints
5. E A Cables
6. Sameer Africa
7. Britam
8. KQ
9.Mumias
10. Uchumi
11. C & G

Have i forgoten any or wrongly included some?


TPS
BOC
Atlas
ARM
StanChart


Pan Africa issues profit warning pushing tally to 15
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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obiero
#37 Posted : Tuesday, December 29, 2015 10:37:27 PM
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15 out of 52 listed firms.. terrible year at the NSE

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
dunkang
#38 Posted : Wednesday, December 30, 2015 8:52:09 AM
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obiero wrote:
15 out of 52 listed firms.. terrible year at the NSE

Na bado. The list will easily get to 22 companies by end of March 2016.
Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi

snipermnoma
#39 Posted : Sunday, January 10, 2016 12:35:29 PM
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dunkang wrote:
obiero wrote:
15 out of 52 listed firms.. terrible year at the NSE

Na bado. The list will easily get to 22 companies by end of March 2016.


22! Oh boy!
Spikes
#40 Posted : Sunday, January 10, 2016 12:49:38 PM
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snipermnoma wrote:
dunkang wrote:
obiero wrote:
15 out of 52 listed firms.. terrible year at the NSE

Na bado. The list will easily get to 22 companies by end of March 2016.


22! Oh boy!


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