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why is RAO interfering with a listed company yet he is not a share holder
gesowan
#1 Posted : Friday, August 31, 2012 7:34:57 PM
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The High Court has lifted a temporary order on national carrier, Kenya Airways, that had stopped the airline from cutting jobs as part of a major cost reduction.
then RAO"has directed that the planned retrenchment of Kenya Airways workers be suspended "
surely we are shareholders...and retrenchment is ok...
mnandii
#2 Posted : Friday, August 31, 2012 7:57:48 PM
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gesowan wrote:
The High Court has lifted a temporary order on national carrier, Kenya Airways, that had stopped the airline from cutting jobs as part of a major cost reduction.
then RAO"has directed that the planned retrenchment of Kenya Airways workers be suspended "
surely we are shareholders...and retrenchment is ok...

RAO is doing politics.
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#3 Posted : Friday, August 31, 2012 8:03:30 PM
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gesowan wrote:
The High Court has lifted a temporary order on national carrier, Kenya Airways, that had stopped the airline from cutting jobs as part of a major cost reduction.
then RAO"has directed that the planned retrenchment of Kenya Airways workers be suspended "
surely we are shareholders...and retrenchment is ok...


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simonkabz
#4 Posted : Friday, August 31, 2012 9:01:58 PM
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Very uninformed. KQ is not a local market bwana, it is a PUBLICLY LISTED COMPANY.
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murchr
#5 Posted : Friday, August 31, 2012 9:46:25 PM
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simonkabz wrote:
Very uninformed. KQ is not a local market bwana, it is a PUBLICLY LISTED COMPANY.


Better said, its not a Fish Market
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mnandii
#6 Posted : Friday, August 31, 2012 10:00:01 PM
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murchr wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
Very uninformed. KQ is not a local market bwana, it is a PUBLICLY LISTED COMPANY.


Better said, its not a Fish Market

Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you
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#7 Posted : Friday, August 31, 2012 10:26:00 PM
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This rao guy could be worse than Moi x1000
Someone take him through econ 101 & very far away from power!!!!
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Rolldrunk
#8 Posted : Friday, August 31, 2012 10:51:32 PM
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1) I think we're a little ahead of ourself, first how much does the government of Kenya own in KQ?

2) Is there any existing agreement between the government of Kenya and KQ to maintain a certain level of domestic employees? Remember KQ was once own by the government so unless I know if they had some agreements, I would be slow in bashing RAO. Note that it is common in developing economies for governments to negotiate employment levels with companies operating in their markets in exchange of favors like; tax breaks, credit, regulational favors, Resource licenses to name a few.

3)Even if there were no agreements to maintain a certain level of employees, Kenya government if it is indeed the largest investor/share holder, have a right to protest if they think the company is no utilizing capital optimumly and that include human capital. However I believe there are other avenues to protest other than public letters but RAO is a politician it is not going to advance his cause if he protest privately because MK might call press conference and take credit publicly if his private protest is successful!
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#9 Posted : Friday, August 31, 2012 11:32:10 PM
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A company's decision making organ is the board. RAO should have acted through the GOK board representatives. He can't do that even if the company was a private company owned by his wife and son.
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murchr
#10 Posted : Friday, August 31, 2012 11:46:09 PM
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Rolldrunk wrote:
1) I think we're a little ahead of ourself, first how much does the government of Kenya own in KQ?

2) Is there any existing agreement between the government of Kenya and KQ to maintain a certain level of domestic employees? Remember KQ was once own by the government so unless I know if they had some agreements, I would be slow in bashing RAO. Note that it is common in developing economies for governments to negotiate employment levels with companies operating in their markets in exchange of favors like; tax breaks, credit, regulational favors, Resource licenses to name a few.

3)Even if there were no agreements to maintain a certain level of employees, Kenya government if it is indeed the largest investor/share holder, have a right to protest if they think the company is no utilizing capital optimumly and that include human capital. However I believe there are other avenues to protest other than public letters but RAO is a politician it is not going to advance his cause if he protest privately because MK might call press conference and take credit publicly if his private protest is successful!


Ans:

1) The last time i checked, GOK had 29% shareholding. And no tax breaks etc it runs like every other org.

2) No existing agreement on employees etc etc

3) Even if the govt has a right to protest. Its certainly not the way RAO did and remember there KQ was given a go ahead to retrench. Is he trying to muscle the Judiciary?
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