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Housing Finance: HFCK a diamond in the rough
heri
#1721 Posted : Friday, March 17, 2017 7:56:26 AM
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obiero wrote:
Spikes wrote:
obiero wrote:
stock.enigma wrote:
Im my understanding, HF is solid but Britam, the major shareholder has a problem. That is how bailout comes in. Sell treasured asset to survive as an entity.

Exactly.. IFC are coming in via proxy



Oooh! I now get the point what you meant by loose sense. The so called IFC entry into HFCK does not affect the mortgage provider.

IFC buying at KES 15.85.. Share is way too cheap at current price. Writing on the wall, buy now


what happened to their FY16 results? i thought they usually report first?
Pesa Nane
#1722 Posted : Friday, March 17, 2017 10:44:43 AM
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obiero wrote:
Spikes wrote:
obiero wrote:
stock.enigma wrote:
Im my understanding, HF is solid but Britam, the major shareholder has a problem. That is how bailout comes in. Sell treasured asset to survive as an entity.

Exactly.. IFC are coming in via proxy



Oooh! I now get the point what you meant by loose sense. The so called IFC entry into HFCK does not affect the mortgage provider.

IFC buying at KES 15.85.. Share is way too cheap at current price. Writing on the wall, buy now

From the article, is that price of Britam stock or HF?
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
Horton
#1723 Posted : Friday, March 17, 2017 10:48:59 AM
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obiero wrote:
Spikes wrote:
obiero wrote:
stock.enigma wrote:
Im my understanding, HF is solid but Britam, the major shareholder has a problem. That is how bailout comes in. Sell treasured asset to survive as an entity.

Exactly.. IFC are coming in via proxy



Oooh! I now get the point what you meant by loose sense. The so called IFC entry into HFCK does not affect the mortgage provider.

IFC buying at KES 15.85.. Share is way too cheap at current price. Writing on the wall, buy now



I dont get why IFC would pay almost 40% more vs market price?
mlennyma
#1724 Posted : Friday, March 17, 2017 11:03:20 AM
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Horton wrote:
obiero wrote:
Spikes wrote:
obiero wrote:
stock.enigma wrote:
Im my understanding, HF is solid but Britam, the major shareholder has a problem. That is how bailout comes in. Sell treasured asset to survive as an entity.

Exactly.. IFC are coming in via proxy



Oooh! I now get the point what you meant by loose sense. The so called IFC entry into HFCK does not affect the mortgage provider.

IFC buying at KES 15.85.. Share is way too cheap at current price. Writing on the wall, buy now



I dont get why IFC would pay almost 40% more vs market price?

blocks are negotiated
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
Horton
#1725 Posted : Friday, March 17, 2017 11:58:13 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
Horton wrote:
obiero wrote:
Spikes wrote:
obiero wrote:
stock.enigma wrote:
Im my understanding, HF is solid but Britam, the major shareholder has a problem. That is how bailout comes in. Sell treasured asset to survive as an entity.

Exactly.. IFC are coming in via proxy



Oooh! I now get the point what you meant by loose sense. The so called IFC entry into HFCK does not affect the mortgage provider.

IFC buying at KES 15.85.. Share is way too cheap at current price. Writing on the wall, buy now



I dont get why IFC would pay almost 40% more vs market price?

blocks are negotiated


40% more?!? I thought kuna bei ya wholesale
Sir Jones
#1726 Posted : Tuesday, March 21, 2017 1:01:49 PM
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when is Mr.Ireri likely to avail the Audited accounts for 2016? Should we be optimistic on this counter's performance really? Anyone with information why deviation on release of Financial reports this year.
sparkly
#1727 Posted : Tuesday, March 21, 2017 2:52:10 PM
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Sir Jones wrote:
when is Mr.Ireri likely to avail the Audited accounts for 2016? Should we be optimistic on this counter's performance really? Anyone with information why deviation on release of Financial reports this year.


Life is short. Live passionately.
obiero
#1728 Posted : Tuesday, March 21, 2017 3:22:38 PM
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sparkly wrote:
Sir Jones wrote:
when is Mr.Ireri likely to avail the Audited accounts for 2016? Should we be optimistic on this counter's performance really? Anyone with information why deviation on release of Financial reports this year.



LOL

HF 428,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
actuarywahisa
#1729 Posted : Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:56:23 PM
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sparkly wrote:
Sir Jones wrote:
when is Mr.Ireri likely to avail the Audited accounts for 2016? Should we be optimistic on this counter's performance really? Anyone with information why deviation on release of Financial reports this year.




Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Weeee! Hahahahahaha..

Anyway deadline for reporting is 31st March and so upishi lazima uishe na lishe liandaliwe by next week Friday.
There are too many opportunities all around. Open your eyes and maybe you'll spot one
obiero
#1730 Posted : Tuesday, March 28, 2017 9:06:57 AM
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obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
young wrote:
Thanks to you @Obiero.
You made me to join this bus. After watching it rise rom 14 to 24, I finally joined in at 24.75.

No regrets at all.
Thanks once again to @Obiero , thanks to you @Wazua.

@young karibu tena. funny how africans behave. i buy at 14 and sell at 25, they mock me!

@obiero sold some HFCK @25, all KCB @60, some COOP @22.. Kenyan banks are struggling to retain deposits. Its looking bad

Post #1361 Sept 5th 2015.. Wish I sold all of the HF

HF 428,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
Spikes
#1731 Posted : Tuesday, March 28, 2017 9:18:19 AM
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obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
young wrote:
Thanks to you @Obiero.
You made me to join this bus. After watching it rise rom 14 to 24, I finally joined in at 24.75.

No regrets at all.
Thanks once again to @Obiero , thanks to you @Wazua.

@young karibu tena. funny how africans behave. i buy at 14 and sell at 25, they mock me!

@obiero sold some HFCK @25, all KCB @60, some COOP @22.. Kenyan banks are struggling to retain deposits. Its looking bad

Post #1361 Sept 5th 2015.. Wish I sold all of the HF

What's your buy price?
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
obiero
#1732 Posted : Wednesday, March 29, 2017 11:16:22 AM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,464
Location: nairobi
Spikes wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
young wrote:
Thanks to you @Obiero.
You made me to join this bus. After watching it rise rom 14 to 24, I finally joined in at 24.75.

No regrets at all.
Thanks once again to @Obiero , thanks to you @Wazua.

@young karibu tena. funny how africans behave. i buy at 14 and sell at 25, they mock me!

@obiero sold some HFCK @25, all KCB @60, some COOP @22.. Kenyan banks are struggling to retain deposits. Its looking bad

Post #1361 Sept 5th 2015.. Wish I sold all of the HF

What's your buy price?

KES 14 was the initial buy price but I amazingly averaged up to KES 21 after selling the initial lot

HF 428,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
obiero
#1733 Posted : Wednesday, March 29, 2017 11:18:29 AM
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Share taking a burukenge beating at the NSE

HF 428,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
mlennyma
#1734 Posted : Wednesday, March 29, 2017 11:28:05 AM
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obiero wrote:
Share taking a burukenge beating at the NSE

this people returned my 500k and refused to allocate me additional shares for their recent rights at 30bob...the misfortune was my blessing
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
Spikes
#1735 Posted : Wednesday, March 29, 2017 11:36:56 AM
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Joined: 9/20/2015
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obiero wrote:
Spikes wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
young wrote:
Thanks to you @Obiero.
You made me to join this bus. After watching it rise rom 14 to 24, I finally joined in at 24.75.

No regrets at all.
Thanks once again to @Obiero , thanks to you @Wazua.

@young karibu tena. funny how africans behave. i buy at 14 and sell at 25, they mock me!

@obiero sold some HFCK @25, all KCB @60, some COOP @22.. Kenyan banks are struggling to retain deposits. Its looking bad

Post #1361 Sept 5th 2015.. Wish I sold all of the HF

What's your buy price?

KES 14 was the initial buy price but I amazingly averaged up to KES 21 after selling the initial lot

Thank God whatever you're holding in HFCK is loose change.
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
Spikes
#1736 Posted : Wednesday, March 29, 2017 11:39:36 AM
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Joined: 9/20/2015
Posts: 2,811
Location: Mombasa
obiero wrote:
Spikes wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
young wrote:
Thanks to you @Obiero.
You made me to join this bus. After watching it rise rom 14 to 24, I finally joined in at 24.75.

No regrets at all.
Thanks once again to @Obiero , thanks to you @Wazua.

@young karibu tena. funny how africans behave. i buy at 14 and sell at 25, they mock me!

@obiero sold some HFCK @25, all KCB @60, some COOP @22.. Kenyan banks are struggling to retain deposits. Its looking bad

Post #1361 Sept 5th 2015.. Wish I sold all of the HF

What's your buy price?

KES 14 was the initial buy price but I amazingly averaged up to KES 21 after selling the initial lot

Thank God whatever you're holding in HFCK is loose change.
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
obiero
#1737 Posted : Wednesday, March 29, 2017 2:47:17 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,464
Location: nairobi
Spikes wrote:
obiero wrote:
Spikes wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
young wrote:
Thanks to you @Obiero.
You made me to join this bus. After watching it rise rom 14 to 24, I finally joined in at 24.75.

No regrets at all.
Thanks once again to @Obiero , thanks to you @Wazua.

@young karibu tena. funny how africans behave. i buy at 14 and sell at 25, they mock me!

@obiero sold some HFCK @25, all KCB @60, some COOP @22.. Kenyan banks are struggling to retain deposits. Its looking bad

Post #1361 Sept 5th 2015.. Wish I sold all of the HF

What's your buy price?

KES 14 was the initial buy price but I amazingly averaged up to KES 21 after selling the initial lot

Thank God whatever you're holding in HFCK is loose change.

Amen

HF 428,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
stock.enigma
#1738 Posted : Wednesday, March 29, 2017 8:08:18 PM
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I just got in when it dropped to 12, I thought I got good deal but now I realize it is long term. I expected good div but looks things are thick. For the first time, I am seeing members confessing errors in their investing strategy. vvs was candid in another post and obiero too.
Sir Jones
#1739 Posted : Wednesday, March 29, 2017 9:01:13 PM
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Posts: 36
stock.enigma wrote:
I just got in when it dropped to 12, I thought I got good deal but now I realize it is long term. I expected good div but looks things are thick. For the first time, I am seeing members confessing errors in their investing strategy. vvs was candid in another post and obiero too.


This is what the TA guys have been warning about but some of us we ignored the advise. The worst is that some of us increased our holding when it was around @38 and then participated in the rights issue. We have been cooked beyond recognition.

For this reason, you are not badly off but all in all welcome to long term club here.
wukan
#1740 Posted : Thursday, March 30, 2017 11:41:51 AM
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hisah wrote:
HF monthly cartoon shows multi-year support at GFC the low which also aligns with the 2011 low. Beyond this support is an air pocket! Caution!




Single digits is here.The air pocket opensPray Pray Pray
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