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Housing Finance: HFCK a diamond in the rough
obiero
#2121 Posted : Monday, November 15, 2021 2:11:00 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
https://mobile.twitter.com/AmbokoJH/status/1458780354056232962/photo/1

Housing Finance (HF Group) has started the process of inviting strategic investors to acquire stake in the company

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obiero
#2122 Posted : Monday, November 15, 2021 7:49:29 PM
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Watch and learn

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obiero
#2123 Posted : Tuesday, November 16, 2021 8:09:48 PM
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obiero
#2124 Posted : Tuesday, November 16, 2021 8:12:27 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
My 2 cents wrote:
Are investors reacting to the possibility of a buy-out by Equity?

Short lived rally

21% gain in last four weeks. This is about the turnaround, not the buyout. I forecast KES 7 before Christmas
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Ericsson
#2125 Posted : Wednesday, November 17, 2021 8:00:17 AM
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obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
My 2 cents wrote:
Are investors reacting to the possibility of a buy-out by Equity?

Short lived rally

21% gain in last four weeks. This is about the turnaround, not the buyout. I forecast KES 7 before Christmas

Ksh.7 is too ambitious,it will end in tears if you put high hopes.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
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obiero
#2126 Posted : Wednesday, November 17, 2021 2:35:40 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
My 2 cents wrote:
Are investors reacting to the possibility of a buy-out by Equity?

Short lived rally

21% gain in last four weeks. This is about the turnaround, not the buyout. I forecast KES 7 before Christmas

Ksh.7 is too ambitious,it will end in tears if you put high hopes.

The 52 week high is KES 5.48.. Not far at all
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Ericsson
#2127 Posted : Thursday, November 18, 2021 8:15:25 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
My 2 cents wrote:
Are investors reacting to the possibility of a buy-out by Equity?

Im thinking it is a price correction to reflect fair value, considering turn around strategy of new CEO. The firm has on average not traded more than 10,000 per day over the last three years, meaning original shareholders are still within
What benefit does Equity get in buying HF?


Attempts to remain bigger than KCB in terms of balance sheet
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Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
littledove
#2128 Posted : Thursday, November 18, 2021 11:13:58 AM
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obiero wrote:
My 2 cents wrote:
Are investors reacting to the possibility of a buy-out by Equity?

Im thinking it is a price correction to reflect fair value, considering turn around strategy of new CEO. The firm has on average not traded more than 10,000 per day over the last three years, meaning original shareholders are still within

last week it traded the biggest volume in 5ys in a single day (more than 1% of its total shares) since then the breakout from 4 has been well sustained. with a book value of above ksh 20 even with a big discount a buyer will still create sizeable value to shareholders compared to the current price
There are only two emotions in the stock market, fear and hope. The problem is, you hope when you should fear and fear when you should hope
obiero
#2129 Posted : Thursday, November 18, 2021 11:39:38 AM
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littledove wrote:
obiero wrote:
My 2 cents wrote:
Are investors reacting to the possibility of a buy-out by Equity?

Im thinking it is a price correction to reflect fair value, considering turn around strategy of new CEO. The firm has on average not traded more than 10,000 per day over the last three years, meaning original shareholders are still within

last week it traded the biggest volume in 5ys in a single day (more than 1% of its total shares) since then the breakout from 4 has been well sustained. with a book value of above ksh 20 even with a big discount a buyer will still create sizeable value to shareholders compared to the current price

KES 7 minimum within next 4 weeks. Watch and learn
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obiero
#2130 Posted : Thursday, November 18, 2021 5:51:28 PM
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obiero wrote:
littledove wrote:
obiero wrote:
My 2 cents wrote:
Are investors reacting to the possibility of a buy-out by Equity?

Im thinking it is a price correction to reflect fair value, considering turn around strategy of new CEO. The firm has on average not traded more than 10,000 per day over the last three years, meaning original shareholders are still within

last week it traded the biggest volume in 5ys in a single day (more than 1% of its total shares) since then the breakout from 4 has been well sustained. with a book value of above ksh 20 even with a big discount a buyer will still create sizeable value to shareholders compared to the current price

KES 7 minimum within next 4 weeks. Watch and learn

www.winda.co.ke
Fyatu
#2131 Posted : Friday, November 19, 2021 11:11:16 AM
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obiero wrote:

The 52 week high is KES 5.48.. Not far at all


Despite KQ nearly ruining this wazua elder credibility, this man @Obiero should always be taken seriously especially on matters Exchange bar. I speak in code....Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
obiero
#2132 Posted : Friday, November 19, 2021 6:45:04 PM
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Fyatu wrote:
obiero wrote:

The 52 week high is KES 5.48.. Not far at all


Despite KQ nearly ruining this wazua elder credibility, this man @Obiero should always be taken seriously especially on matters Exchange bar. I speak in code....Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Hehe. KQ is a gem and HF is a diamond in the rough. Always be keen realize value especially when it’s not apparent. One/many could have easily gained over 50% in just 12 months, instead of focusing on @Obiero
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My 2 cents
#2133 Posted : Friday, November 19, 2021 7:18:18 PM
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Penny stocks can move double digit %s very easily. From 2 to 3 bob is a 50% gain. See also KPLC's move from 1.3 to a high of 1.9. Doesn't mean the fundamentals are great. How about Nairobi Business Ventures moves. Dont read too much in the movement of a penny stock's price.
obiero
#2134 Posted : Friday, November 19, 2021 7:30:37 PM
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My 2 cents wrote:
Penny stocks can move double digit %s very easily. From 2 to 3 bob is a 50% gain. See also KPLC's move from 1.3 to a high of 1.9. Doesn't mean the fundamentals are great. How about Nairobi Business Ventures moves. Dont read too much in the movement of a penny stock's price.

Be ready to trade and leave alone emotions and theories
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My 2 cents
#2135 Posted : Saturday, November 20, 2021 8:51:18 AM
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obiero wrote:
My 2 cents wrote:
Penny stocks can move double digit %s very easily. From 2 to 3 bob is a 50% gain. See also KPLC's move from 1.3 to a high of 1.9. Doesn't mean the fundamentals are great. How about Nairobi Business Ventures moves. Dont read too much in the movement of a penny stock's price.

Be ready to trade and leave alone emotions and theories


I dont trade. I buy and hold long term. So I like to focus on quality companies.
obiero
#2136 Posted : Saturday, November 20, 2021 2:14:05 PM
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My 2 cents wrote:
obiero wrote:
My 2 cents wrote:
Penny stocks can move double digit %s very easily. From 2 to 3 bob is a 50% gain. See also KPLC's move from 1.3 to a high of 1.9. Doesn't mean the fundamentals are great. How about Nairobi Business Ventures moves. Dont read too much in the movement of a penny stock's price.

Be ready to trade and leave alone emotions and theories


I dont trade. I buy and hold long term. So I like to focus on quality companies.

50% gain for larger caps is very rare. But 50% income gain is 50% income gain, whether earned via fish sales, penny stocks or real estate etc. I am a hybrid of trader and investor but leaning heavy on trader
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Fyatu
#2137 Posted : Saturday, November 20, 2021 8:03:46 PM
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obiero wrote:

Be ready to trade and leave alone emotions and theories


This is key. Spoken like a true elder.
Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
My 2 cents
#2138 Posted : Sunday, November 21, 2021 7:08:26 AM
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Fyatu wrote:
obiero wrote:

Be ready to trade and leave alone emotions and theories


This is key. Spoken like a true elder.


An elder would tell you trading the NSE will get your head handed to you. Commissions of 2.2% going in and another 2.2% going out.
Don't trade this market. If you have to trade, take it to the fish market.
Ericsson
#2139 Posted : Sunday, November 21, 2021 7:46:26 AM
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My 2 cents wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
obiero wrote:

Be ready to trade and leave alone emotions and theories


This is key. Spoken like a true elder.


An elder would tell you trading the NSE will get your head handed to you. Commissions of 2.2% going in and another 2.2% going out.
Don't trade this market. If you have to trade, take it to the fish market.


To trade target a minimum return of 25% so that when you remove commissions it comes to 20%
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
My 2 cents
#2140 Posted : Sunday, November 21, 2021 10:37:36 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
My 2 cents wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
obiero wrote:

Be ready to trade and leave alone emotions and theories


This is key. Spoken like a true elder.


An elder would tell you trading the NSE will get your head handed to you. Commissions of 2.2% going in and another 2.2% going out.
Don't trade this market. If you have to trade, take it to the fish market.


To trade target a minimum return of 25% so that when you remove commissions it comes to 20%


Lets put this in practice hypothetically. Pick one stock tomorrow, which you think will go up 25% in the next 7 months. Then lets circle back in Jun 2022. Please report tomorrow which that stock is so that we record tomorrows price.
Theory always much easier than action.
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