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Collective Investment Schemes
maka
#1 Posted : Thursday, March 15, 2012 7:58:19 AM
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Is it wiser and advantageous to pool together a significant amount of cash for fixed income trading or even stocks rather than going at it alone...lets say we pool 5m from 20 guys thats 100m for bonds trading will it be better than when am trading my own 5m as an individual?your thoughts...
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guru267
#2 Posted : Thursday, March 15, 2012 8:08:55 AM
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maka wrote:
Is it wiser and advantageous to pool together a significant amount of cash for fixed income trading or even stocks rather than going at it alone...lets say we pool 5m from 20 guys thats 100m for bonds trading will it be better than when am trading my own 5m as an individual?your thoughts...


@maka it depends on your wealth and experience.. The only thing that Collective Investment schemes offer is professional management & a pool of funds bringing together the wealth of individuals who may not be so wealthy on their own..

Personally I find it as an investment tool for lazy people..

If I had 250k why would I give it to someone to buy a bond for me when I could feed myself with info from the bond market and buy my own bond??
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maka
#3 Posted : Thursday, March 15, 2012 11:33:24 AM
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guru267 wrote:
maka wrote:
Is it wiser and advantageous to pool together a significant amount of cash for fixed income trading or even stocks rather than going at it alone...lets say we pool 5m from 20 guys thats 100m for bonds trading will it be better than when am trading my own 5m as an individual?your thoughts...


@maka it depends on your wealth and experience.. The only thing that Collective Investment schemes offer is professional management & a pool of funds bringing together the wealth of individuals who may not be so wealthy on their own..

Personally I find it as an investment tool for lazy people..

If I had 250k why would I give it to someone to buy a bond for me when I could feed myself with info from the bond market and buy my own bond??

@guru thanks for the info but I have realised its easier to trade bigger blocks in the bond market as compared to smaller chunks,trading 250k is almost impossible asset managers,fund managers and bank dealers prefer huge amounts,so if we bring together a couple of 250ks trading in the secondary market will be workable unless CMA and NSE start a segment for smaller amounts...
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kyt
#4 Posted : Thursday, March 15, 2012 11:53:27 AM
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pooled investment is always a welcome move. if you buy bulk, you buy cheaply. for example an acre is cheaper than 8, 1/8's so u can buy the acre and subdivide and get the same size but cheaper. same applies in all spheres of investments.
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kyt
#5 Posted : Thursday, March 15, 2012 11:56:10 AM
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when u walk alone you go fast, when u walk in a group, you go far
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subzero
#6 Posted : Thursday, March 15, 2012 6:07:50 PM
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Investing in a group has both advantages and disadvantages

PROS
making use of economies of scale, especially buying land as a group

there's always that someone in the group who knows something/someone important that can be of benefit to everyone


CONS
possibility of funds getting misappropriated one of the entrusted members

slow decision making process

members might have different and divergent ideas on general investment direction






having said that,i am pro investing alone , whenever possible

butterflyke
#7 Posted : Thursday, March 15, 2012 9:33:36 PM
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kyt wrote:
when u walk alone you go fast, when u walk in a group, you go far


good one. i am pro investing alone, although collective investment has its advantages - you can buy more 'better' so long as you are like minded people without drama and drama cannot be predicted...
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Thiong'o
#8 Posted : Monday, March 19, 2012 4:39:39 PM
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kyt wrote:
when u walk alone you go fast, when u walk in a group, you go far


"You'll Never Walk Alone"smile
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maka
#9 Posted : Monday, March 19, 2012 8:13:35 PM
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Asanteni kwa mawaidha I'l put this in mind but I think we all agree that if its about going somewhere then collective schemes are good plus also for the economies of scale...lets see what money lumped together can do...smile
@Thiong'o dont even start with the fools you are walking to no where...Sad
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abroaduni
#10 Posted : Saturday, May 05, 2012 11:52:02 AM
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Thank You very much guys for sharing your views regarding investment schemes.These are very helpful and useful information for investors including me,who are looking for investing.

Thanks for sharing!!!

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pariah
#11 Posted : Monday, May 07, 2012 5:20:53 PM
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i have only done it alone before and am now considering trying pooling with others, the hardest bit is identifying like minded investors to pool with
Rahatupu
#12 Posted : Thursday, May 24, 2012 3:18:11 PM
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maka wrote:
Asanteni kwa mawaidha I'l put this in mind but I think we all agree that if its about going somewhere then collective schemes are good plus also for the economies of scale...lets see what money lumped together can do...smile
@Thiong'o dont even start with the fools you are walking to no where...Sad



I think, if its in stocks you better walk alone. If its in land and real estate or other worthy business ventures your better off in a pack (citeris paribus).
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