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CBK T Bill returns
hardwood
#101 Posted : Wednesday, November 11, 2015 1:29:49 PM
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Emerger wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Spikes wrote:
Expect a mammoth bull market. Good news indeed!

the nse was still bearish when interest rates and t-bill yields were low earlier this year so i feel this may not be an automatic catalyst to the market


The Tbill rates will likely fall further due to the too much cash following the 'attractive rates' on the govt borrowing.

I passed at CBK last week and the queues on Tbills/Tbonds counters were huge. So where is the likely area that this cash will head to since the rates are no longer attractive as such. maybe NSE but may not yield to significant rally, slightly i think.


Cash will head to land huko isinya kitengela etc.
Spikes
#102 Posted : Wednesday, November 11, 2015 1:43:08 PM
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Cash will show up at NSE coz the market has bottomed deeply this year. Many investors are apparently seeking furious entry.
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
maka
#103 Posted : Wednesday, November 11, 2015 5:11:02 PM
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5 year bond to be issued this November....
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Impunity
#104 Posted : Wednesday, November 11, 2015 5:13:21 PM
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maka wrote:
5 year bond to be issued this November....


Rate ni ngaphi?
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doubletap
#105 Posted : Wednesday, November 11, 2015 5:35:06 PM
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Spikes wrote:
Cash will show up at NSE coz the market has bottomed deeply this year. Many investors are apparently seeking furious entry.


Think we forget that The majority don't invest in the stock market so would not be prudent to assume that the money not spent on the bills will automatically show up in the NSE. Think guys will pack it back in there accounts as they await a better return. For stock investors if they still have cash after investing in bills are already buying but we can suppose they will be showing up next year when the bills mature. My humble view
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Othelo
#106 Posted : Wednesday, November 11, 2015 5:35:08 PM
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Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
5 year bond to be issued this November....


Rate ni ngaphi?

Volume + rate .... ile ya wanjiku!!!
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maka
#107 Posted : Wednesday, November 11, 2015 5:45:30 PM
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Othelo wrote:
Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
5 year bond to be issued this November....


Rate ni ngaphi?

Volume + rate .... ile ya wanjiku!!!

Haven't seen the specs but I believe coupon wil be market determined...Let me confirm.
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cnn
#108 Posted : Thursday, November 12, 2015 8:10:13 AM
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The 364 day fell to 13.6% and 182 day down to 12.28% in yesterday's auction,46 billion offered,CBK took 16.5 billion.We could be down to 10% next week.
Spikes
#109 Posted : Thursday, November 12, 2015 8:17:33 AM
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Yes! Down to 10% next week as the bourse builds upthrust momentum. Great prospects!
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
Impunity
#110 Posted : Thursday, November 12, 2015 8:35:07 AM
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cnn wrote:
The 364 day fell to 13.6% and 182 day down to 12.28% in yesterday's auction,46 billion offered,CBK took 16.5 billion.We could be down to 10% next week.


Cooking figures...but I know the Bear is not bothered...he will still head southlands until I can board.
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You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

maka
#111 Posted : Thursday, November 12, 2015 9:23:54 AM
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Impunity wrote:
cnn wrote:
The 364 day fell to 13.6% and 182 day down to 12.28% in yesterday's auction,46 billion offered,CBK took 16.5 billion.We could be down to 10% next week.


Cooking figures...but I know the Bear is not bothered...he will still head southlands until I can board.


Kushuka kweli

Hope now peeps learn how bonds make money bought the 1.2015.1 @ average = 19.062 have a bid @ 15...But selling odd lots is quite a struggle...
possunt quia posse videntur
Spikes
#112 Posted : Thursday, November 12, 2015 10:22:05 AM
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For this month the bear is actually over.
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
Impunity
#113 Posted : Thursday, November 12, 2015 10:38:19 AM
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maka wrote:
Impunity wrote:
cnn wrote:
The 364 day fell to 13.6% and 182 day down to 12.28% in yesterday's auction,46 billion offered,CBK took 16.5 billion.We could be down to 10% next week.


Cooking figures...but I know the Bear is not bothered...he will still head southlands until I can board.



Hope now peeps learn how bonds make money bought the 1.2015.1 @ average = 19.062 have a bid @ 15...But selling odd lots is quite a struggle...


Say the above again, if possible in @wanjiku slang!
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

maka
#114 Posted : Thursday, November 12, 2015 10:58:32 AM
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Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
Impunity wrote:
cnn wrote:
The 364 day fell to 13.6% and 182 day down to 12.28% in yesterday's auction,46 billion offered,CBK took 16.5 billion.We could be down to 10% next week.


Cooking figures...but I know the Bear is not bothered...he will still head southlands until I can board.



Hope now peeps learn how bonds make money bought the 1.2015.1 @ average = 19.062 have a bid @ 15...But selling odd lots is quite a struggle...


Say the above again, if possible in @wanjiku slang!


Let me show you kwa calc...



possunt quia posse videntur
Angelica _ann
#115 Posted : Thursday, November 12, 2015 10:05:26 PM
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Impunity wrote:
cnn wrote:
The 364 day fell to 13.6% and 182 day down to 12.28% in yesterday's auction,46 billion offered,CBK took 16.5 billion.We could be down to 10% next week.


Cooking figures...but I know the Bear is not bothered...he will still head southlands until I can board.

smile
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Impunity
#116 Posted : Friday, November 13, 2015 8:42:51 AM
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This man called @wailer!

91 day paper = 9.6%

Can it maintain that speed and touch 4%?
Portfolio: Sold
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Spikes
#117 Posted : Friday, November 13, 2015 8:53:42 AM
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4% 91 day bill nope. Mybe 8% @lowest owing to economic conditions.
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
maka
#118 Posted : Friday, November 13, 2015 8:58:38 AM
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Spikes wrote:
4% 91 day bill nope. Mybe 8% @lowest owing to economic conditions.


With this govt that is very possible...
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KulaRaha
#119 Posted : Friday, November 13, 2015 9:02:33 AM
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Fake rates. Once they eat the syndicated loan, they'll be back for more from the market.
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
Othelo
#120 Posted : Friday, November 13, 2015 9:30:59 AM
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KulaRaha wrote:
Fake rates. Once they eat the syndicated loan, they'll be back for more from the market.

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