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nostoppingthis
#1 Posted : Monday, February 20, 2012 3:50:25 PM
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This guy is bold to write this....

www.kenyastockholm.com/2...e-kikuyu-problems-koigi/
nostoppingthis
#2 Posted : Tuesday, February 21, 2012 12:29:00 PM
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Some excerpts from the article

By asking me to support Uhuru, the young man was asking me to put Uhuru above the law and support his exemption from ICC, whether guilty or not, because the king is never wrong. And Churches have followed suit in Eldroret, Kiambu and Nakuru. They are praying for Uhuru and Ruto as if they are national heroes and not suspects of crimes against humanity. Imagine churches praying for suspects of genocide in Rwanda before they were taken to UN Tribunal at Arusha or suspects of perpetrating the holocaust before they were taken to Nuremberg in Germany....

....., Uhuru is born with royal blue blood of kingship over the Kikuyu and possession of this blue blood is all he needs to be the King of the Kikuyu and Kenya. Subsequently, any Kikuyu who questions this logic is a traitor and any Kenyan who doubts its correctness is anti-Kikuyu, mistaken and malicious. Uhuru himself said in the Murang’a meeting that any Kikuyus who will not toe the line, they will go for them in their homes......

....But how did the Kikuyu get where they are? First and foremost, they have allowed themselves to be manipulated with money. Second their ethnic chiefs have terrified them to believe they must have a king to survive against other communities that have kings Ruto, Raila and Kalonzo. And most important, Kikuyus have lost their freedom to think beyond their community.....

....As supporters of Uhuru cite his strengths, even Kikuyu professors, lawyers, doctors and bishops refuse to look at his disqualifications such as inherited leadership, corroboration with and penchant for dictatorship, inheritance of enormous lands and inherent inability to champion eradication of poverty, corruption and negative ethnicity whose wave he hopes to ride to State House.....

.....Ironically, most victims of crimes against humanity have been Kikuyu men, women and children.....

.....And how can a community unable to accept a simple fact like leadership cannot be confined to one family only be expected or trusted to provide leadership in other areas of society and economy of Kenya?.....

....Just to defend Uhuru and campaign for his kingship, Kikuyus have become politically dwarfed, diminished, de-nationalized and reduced to a mere community when they could be larger and bigger as Kenyans, East Africans, Africans and citizens of the world!To save Uhuru, I see the Kikuyu losing Kenya (hood). Is this price worthy it?.....

Why would this man speak against his community in this fashion? Is this a sober argument on his part?
alma
#3 Posted : Tuesday, February 21, 2012 12:36:47 PM
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that article so old but I always find myself reading it after I listen to my Kikuyu brethren speak. Nothing has changed since he wrote it. If only he behaved as he writes.
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Lucid_Iam
#4 Posted : Tuesday, February 21, 2012 12:38:39 PM
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He makes a lot of sense. Now we need another one to write about Luo and Odinga and how this communities should disentangle themselves from these families then we will have half sorted the political problems of Kenya.
Njung'e
#5 Posted : Tuesday, February 21, 2012 12:46:13 PM
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#6 Posted : Tuesday, February 21, 2012 12:48:33 PM
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Lucid_Iam wrote:
He makes a lot of sense. Now we need another one to write about Luo and Odinga and how this communities should disentangle themselves from these families then we will have half sorted the political problems of Kenya.


Applause Applause Applause Applause
livie
#7 Posted : Tuesday, February 21, 2012 12:59:31 PM
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nostoppingthis wrote:
Some excerpts from the article

By asking me to support Uhuru, the young man was asking me to put Uhuru above the law and support his exemption from ICC, whether guilty or not, because the king is never wrong. And Churches have followed suit in Eldroret, Kiambu and Nakuru. They are praying for Uhuru and Ruto as if they are national heroes and not suspects of crimes against humanity. Imagine churches praying for suspects of genocide in Rwanda before they were taken to UN Tribunal at Arusha or suspects of perpetrating the holocaust before they were taken to Nuremberg in Germany....

....., Uhuru is born with royal blue blood of kingship over the Kikuyu and possession of this blue blood is all he needs to be the King of the Kikuyu and Kenya. Subsequently, any Kikuyu who questions this logic is a traitor and any Kenyan who doubts its correctness is anti-Kikuyu, mistaken and malicious. Uhuru himself said in the Murang’a meeting that any Kikuyus who will not toe the line, they will go for them in their homes......

....But how did the Kikuyu get where they are? First and foremost, they have allowed themselves to be manipulated with money. Second their ethnic chiefs have terrified them to believe they must have a king to survive against other communities that have kings Ruto, Raila and Kalonzo. And most important, Kikuyus have lost their freedom to think beyond their community.....

....As supporters of Uhuru cite his strengths, even Kikuyu professors, lawyers, doctors and bishops refuse to look at his disqualifications such as inherited leadership, corroboration with and penchant for dictatorship, inheritance of enormous lands and inherent inability to champion eradication of poverty, corruption and negative ethnicity whose wave he hopes to ride to State House.....

.....Ironically, most victims of crimes against humanity have been Kikuyu men, women and children.....

.....And how can a community unable to accept a simple fact like leadership cannot be confined to one family only be expected or trusted to provide leadership in other areas of society and economy of Kenya?.....

....Just to defend Uhuru and campaign for his kingship, Kikuyus have become politically dwarfed, diminished, de-nationalized and reduced to a mere community when they could be larger and bigger as Kenyans, East Africans, Africans and citizens of the world!To save Uhuru, I see the Kikuyu losing Kenya (hood). Is this price worthy it?.....

Why would this man speak against his community in this fashion? Is this a sober argument on his part?


if he said that then we r in funk!!!
wat of those of us who took wives from the mountainside?
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nostoppingthis
#8 Posted : Tuesday, February 21, 2012 1:06:11 PM
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TAZ wrote:
Lucid_Iam wrote:
He makes a lot of sense. Now we need another one to write about Luo and Odinga and how this communities should disentangle themselves from these families then we will have half sorted the political problems of Kenya.


Applause Applause Applause Applause


Why does the political scene focus on these two communities and use the others as pawns?
Lolest!
#9 Posted : Tuesday, February 21, 2012 1:28:25 PM
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I do not begrudge Uhuru merely because he inherited his political seat. It is okay for anyone to take the line of their parents and even seek to do better than them! Attacking beneficiaries of inheritance is like sayin the son of a good businessman has no right being a good business man!

Kenyatta, Odinga and Mudavadi dynasties are doing well. But I believe Uhuru's ratings would be much lower if the ICC had not charged him. He became martyr overnight with the tribe feeling that he was suffering on their behalf.

The common belief in GEMA is that Uhuru actually did participate in the revenge attacks but they believe that is what saved them-thus his Odinga-like popularity!
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2012
#10 Posted : Tuesday, February 21, 2012 1:38:36 PM
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nostoppingthis wrote:

Why does the political scene focus on these two communities and use the others as pawns?


Good question. And as one political annalist smile said, it will be easy for a wise fellow from the smaller tribes to be cunning and pita katikati with the support of the two tribes because they would rather give their votes someone else than lose to their rival.

BBI will solve it
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