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Treasury Bills and Bonds
Kenyan Oracle
#1581 Posted : Wednesday, December 08, 2021 9:40:35 AM
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Tokyo
#1582 Posted : Saturday, January 08, 2022 2:34:53 AM
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When should we be expecting another IFB
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maka
#1583 Posted : Saturday, January 08, 2022 2:05:10 PM
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Tokyo wrote:
When should we be expecting another IFB


March... Heard something along those lines.
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Tokyo
#1584 Posted : Sunday, January 09, 2022 3:13:01 AM
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maka wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
When should we be expecting another IFB


March... Heard something along those lines.


Thanks. Waiting for March . Anything above 12.5% is good
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Thitifini
#1585 Posted : Friday, January 28, 2022 7:40:36 PM
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75B IFB closing 15th Feb

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Queen
#1586 Posted : Friday, January 28, 2022 8:39:16 PM
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Thitifini wrote:


75B IFB closing 15th Feb


19years tenor.
Tokyo
#1587 Posted : Wednesday, February 02, 2022 5:07:26 AM
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Thitifini wrote:


75B IFB closing 15th Feb


I predict it will be oversubscribed and interest below 12%. 11-11.3%.
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Queen
#1588 Posted : Wednesday, February 02, 2022 4:19:50 PM
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Tokyo wrote:
Thitifini wrote:


75B IFB closing 15th Feb


I predict it will be oversubscribed and interest below 12%. 11-11.3%.


For a bond of 19yrs tenor, there is no way the coupon rate would be less than 12%.
Queen
#1589 Posted : Wednesday, February 16, 2022 4:53:44 PM
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Queen wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
Thitifini wrote:


75B IFB closing 15th Feb


I predict it will be oversubscribed and interest below 12%. 11-11.3%.


For a bond of 19yrs tenor, there is no way the coupon rate would be less than 12%.


The coupon rate has come in @12.965%. Great!
Kenyan Oracle
#1590 Posted : Thursday, February 17, 2022 8:03:56 AM
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Queen wrote:
Queen wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
Thitifini wrote:


75B IFB closing 15th Feb


I predict it will be oversubscribed and interest below 12%. 11-11.3%.


For a bond of 19yrs tenor, there is no way the coupon rate would be less than 12%.


The coupon rate has come in @12.965%. Great!



This is a great one considering its tax free
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maka
#1591 Posted : Tuesday, February 22, 2022 10:59:43 AM
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Tokyo wrote:
maka wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
When should we be expecting another IFB


March... Heard something along those lines.


Thanks. Waiting for March . Anything above 12.5% is good



Been swamped... Interesting IFB results was expecting 12.70 - 12.85 thereabout. All indications are that we will have high rates going forward. If you have extra cash park it here... It is good to see retail trade also growing and also guys doing it on their own instead of passing through intermediaries..
Stanchart is already offering the paper at a YTM of 12.30% . TBH I really really pity their clients. Anyway willing buyer willing seller. I believe they sell convenience according to them. To each his own.
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MatataMingi
#1592 Posted : Sunday, June 12, 2022 4:12:45 PM
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T Bills rates going crazy.
- 182 days at 9.037%
- 364 days at 9.952%
I don't think that I have seen such rates before.
T Bonds and infrastructure Bonds also going crazy.

Is this sustainable by the CBK?
Any chance of CBK defaulting ?
Ericsson
#1593 Posted : Monday, June 13, 2022 10:37:47 AM
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MatataMingi wrote:
T Bills rates going crazy.
- 182 days at 9.037%
- 364 days at 9.952%
I don't think that I have seen such rates before.
T Bonds and infrastructure Bonds also going crazy.

Is this sustainable by the CBK?
Any chance of CBK defaulting ?

11 years ago tbill hit a high of 18%
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
My 2 cents
#1594 Posted : Monday, June 13, 2022 2:02:51 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
MatataMingi wrote:
T Bills rates going crazy.
- 182 days at 9.037%
- 364 days at 9.952%
I don't think that I have seen such rates before.
T Bonds and infrastructure Bonds also going crazy.

Is this sustainable by the CBK?
Any chance of CBK defaulting ?

11 years ago tbill hit a high of 18%


As recent as 2017 or thereabout, there was a brief period when rates were also above 16%
Ericsson
#1595 Posted : Monday, June 13, 2022 5:14:11 PM
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My 2 cents wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
MatataMingi wrote:
T Bills rates going crazy.
- 182 days at 9.037%
- 364 days at 9.952%
I don't think that I have seen such rates before.
T Bonds and infrastructure Bonds also going crazy.

Is this sustainable by the CBK?
Any chance of CBK defaulting ?

11 years ago tbill hit a high of 18%


As recent as 2017 or thereabout, there was a brief period when rates were also above 16%

2017 there was already interest rates cap law,so unlikely
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
cnn
#1596 Posted : Monday, June 13, 2022 6:01:53 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
My 2 cents wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
MatataMingi wrote:
T Bills rates going crazy.
- 182 days at 9.037%
- 364 days at 9.952%
I don't think that I have seen such rates before.
T Bonds and infrastructure Bonds also going crazy.

Is this sustainable by the CBK?
Any chance of CBK defaulting ?

11 years ago tbill hit a high of 18%


As recent as 2017 or thereabout, there was a brief period when rates were also above 16%

2017 there was already interest rates cap law,so unlikely

The recent highs were in early 2016 with the 364 day at around 14.9%.
My 2 cents
#1597 Posted : Monday, June 13, 2022 9:50:45 PM
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cnn wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
My 2 cents wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
MatataMingi wrote:
T Bills rates going crazy.
- 182 days at 9.037%
- 364 days at 9.952%
I don't think that I have seen such rates before.
T Bonds and infrastructure Bonds also going crazy.

Is this sustainable by the CBK?
Any chance of CBK defaulting ?

11 years ago tbill hit a high of 18%


As recent as 2017 or thereabout, there was a brief period when rates were also above 16%

2017 there was already interest rates cap law,so unlikely

The recent highs were in early 2016 with the 364 day at around 14.9%.


The longer dated bonds even climbed past 15%.
Just go back to this same thread circa 2016, to get a sense of what the rates were back then. But it was for a very brief period though that the rates were this high.
maka
#1598 Posted : Friday, June 17, 2022 8:38:20 AM
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My 2 cents wrote:
cnn wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
My 2 cents wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
MatataMingi wrote:
T Bills rates going crazy.
- 182 days at 9.037%
- 364 days at 9.952%
I don't think that I have seen such rates before.
T Bonds and infrastructure Bonds also going crazy.

Is this sustainable by the CBK?
Any chance of CBK defaulting ?

11 years ago tbill hit a high of 18%


As recent as 2017 or thereabout, there was a brief period when rates were also above 16%

2017 there was already interest rates cap law,so unlikely

The recent highs were in early 2016 with the 364 day at around 14.9%.


The longer dated bonds even climbed past 15%.
Just go back to this same thread circa 2016, to get a sense of what the rates were back then. But it was for a very brief period though that the rates were this high.




1.2015.1 and 2.2015.1 had crazy rates I believe 19% and 22% respectively just around the time Chase Bank was going under ... Heeeh these guys have really fought the rates. With the small reopen for 25Bn hawataki rates zipande kabisa ... When you look at the price list you just wish you had money papers being sold at crazy levels....
possunt quia posse videntur
Ericsson
#1599 Posted : Friday, June 17, 2022 10:33:57 AM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,475
Location: NAIROBI
maka wrote:
My 2 cents wrote:
cnn wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
My 2 cents wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
MatataMingi wrote:
T Bills rates going crazy.
- 182 days at 9.037%
- 364 days at 9.952%
I don't think that I have seen such rates before.
T Bonds and infrastructure Bonds also going crazy.

Is this sustainable by the CBK?
Any chance of CBK defaulting ?

11 years ago tbill hit a high of 18%


As recent as 2017 or thereabout, there was a brief period when rates were also above 16%

2017 there was already interest rates cap law,so unlikely

The recent highs were in early 2016 with the 364 day at around 14.9%.


The longer dated bonds even climbed past 15%.
Just go back to this same thread circa 2016, to get a sense of what the rates were back then. But it was for a very brief period though that the rates were this high.




1.2015.1 and 2.2015.1 had crazy rates I believe 19% and 22% respectively just around the time Chase Bank was going under ... Heeeh these guys have really fought the rates. With the small reopen for 25Bn hawataki rates zipande kabisa ... When you look at the price list you just wish you had money papers being sold at crazy levels....


The fight has resulted into detrimental effects on the economy
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
obiero
#1600 Posted : Saturday, June 18, 2022 6:02:05 PM
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Location: nairobi
182-DAY

Issue Number: 2452/182 Auction Date: 23rd June 2022 Value Dated: 27th June 2022

Previous Average Interest Rate: 9.096%

COOP 5,500 ABP12.6; HF 286,000 ABP 3.49; KCB 7,500 ABP 36; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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