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Impunity wrote:Wondergirl wrote:Impunity wrote:Ebenyo wrote:maka wrote:[quote=Angelica _ann]@maka please guide on the pricing tafasali  10 year currently trading around 12.65.... So around those levels.... Maybe upto 12.75%[/quo .......................................................................................................................................................... In my first paper FXD2/2014/5,it was written that i will get 12.404%,but the interest amount i get in my account is 10%. For gaaament securities whose tenures are less than 10 years,the haircut is usually 15%,thus 85% of 12.404 is some 10.x% Any tenure above 10 years the haircut is 10%. For IFB however,there is kinyozi,just grow full rastas! Haki si you explain to us in simpler words,I think its time I diversified into these things, and I have no clue.   Hit my inbox wondergal. Point correction though: "for IFB,there is no kinyozi" Please advise adress to hit
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,325 Location: Masada
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Wondergirl wrote:Impunity wrote:Wondergirl wrote:Impunity wrote:Ebenyo wrote:maka wrote:[quote=Angelica _ann]@maka please guide on the pricing tafasali 10 year currently trading around 12.65.... So around those levels.... Maybe upto 12.75%[/quo .......................................................................................................................................................... In my first paper FXD2/2014/5,it was written that i will get 12.404%,but the interest amount i get in my account is 10%. For gaaament securities whose tenures are less than 10 years,the haircut is usually 15%,thus 85% of 12.404 is some 10.x% Any tenure above 10 years the haircut is 10%. For IFB however,there is kinyozi,just grow full rastas! Haki si you explain to us in simpler words,I think its time I diversified into these things, and I have no clue. Hit my inbox wondergal. Point correction though: "for IFB,there is no kinyozi" Please advise adress to hit 2008impunity "at" gmail "dot" com Portfolio: Sold
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2016 Posts: 1,996 Location: Kitale
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today is the auction.hebu @maka atupee results tujue. Towards the goal of financial freedom
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2016 Posts: 1,996 Location: Kitale
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 5/7/2010 Posts: 38 Location: Nairobi
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Ebenyo wrote:today is the auction.hebu @maka atupee results tujue. For the FXD2/2018/10 bond, the coupon is 12.502% which means after WT you only get 11.2518%. Trust in God and endure patiently.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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ibsi wrote:Ebenyo wrote:today is the auction.hebu @maka atupee results tujue. For the FXD2/2018/10 bond, the coupon is 12.502% which means after WT you only get 11.2518%.  possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,325 Location: Masada
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maka wrote:ibsi wrote:Ebenyo wrote:today is the auction.hebu @maka atupee results tujue. For the FXD2/2018/10 bond, the coupon is 12.502% which means after WT you only get 11.2518%. Still can't beat the recent IFB couponed at 11.95% net. Portfolio: Sold
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2016 Posts: 1,996 Location: Kitale
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maka wrote:ibsi wrote:Ebenyo wrote:today is the auction.hebu @maka atupee results tujue. For the FXD2/2018/10 bond, the coupon is 12.502% which means after WT you only get 11.2518%. I succeeded in getting this one.Sent the RTGS to cbk yesterday.Marks my second paper. Thanks to @Maka for ispiration. Towards the goal of financial freedom
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Ebenyo wrote:maka wrote:ibsi wrote:Ebenyo wrote:today is the auction.hebu @maka atupee results tujue. For the FXD2/2018/10 bond, the coupon is 12.502% which means after WT you only get 11.2518%. I succeeded in getting this one.Sent the RTGS to cbk yesterday.Marks my second paper. Thanks to @Maka for ispiration. Build it pole pole trust me you won't regret... You will buy me a mzinga when we hit a few millions on face value.... 😊 possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,325 Location: Masada
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Ebenyo wrote:maka wrote:ibsi wrote:Ebenyo wrote:today is the auction.hebu @maka atupee results tujue. For the FXD2/2018/10 bond, the coupon is 12.502% which means after WT you only get 11.2518%. I succeeded in getting this one.Sent the RTGS to cbk yesterday.Marks my second paper. Thanks to @Maka for ispiration. How much in face value did you put in? Otherwise you would have been better off buying njugu karanga with your 100K shillings. Portfolio: Sold
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/20/2007 Posts: 767
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Impunity wrote:Ebenyo wrote:maka wrote:ibsi wrote:Ebenyo wrote:today is the auction.hebu @maka atupee results tujue. For the FXD2/2018/10 bond, the coupon is 12.502% which means after WT you only get 11.2518%. I succeeded in getting this one.Sent the RTGS to cbk yesterday.Marks my second paper. Thanks to @Maka for ispiration. How much in face value did you put in? Otherwise you would have been better off buying njugu karanga with your 100K shillings. Is WHT a final tax on the interest on bills and bonds? Will I still be required to add the interest to my other income and do the tax bracket calculations then deduct tax withheld? They must find it difficult....... those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority. -G. Massey.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,325 Location: Masada
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tom_boy wrote:Impunity wrote:Ebenyo wrote:maka wrote:ibsi wrote:Ebenyo wrote:today is the auction.hebu @maka atupee results tujue. For the FXD2/2018/10 bond, the coupon is 12.502% which means after WT you only get 11.2518%. I succeeded in getting this one.Sent the RTGS to cbk yesterday.Marks my second paper. Thanks to @Maka for ispiration. How much in face value did you put in? Otherwise you would have been better off buying njugu karanga with your 100K shillings. Is WHT a final tax on the interest on bills and bonds? Will I still be required to add the interest to my other income and do the tax bracket calculations then deduct tax withheld? Your question is poorly presented. What's the question? Portfolio: Sold
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Impunity wrote:tom_boy wrote:Impunity wrote:Ebenyo wrote:maka wrote:ibsi wrote:Ebenyo wrote:today is the auction.hebu @maka atupee results tujue. For the FXD2/2018/10 bond, the coupon is 12.502% which means after WT you only get 11.2518%. I succeeded in getting this one.Sent the RTGS to cbk yesterday.Marks my second paper. Thanks to @Maka for ispiration. How much in face value did you put in? Otherwise you would have been better off buying njugu karanga with your 100K shillings. Is WHT a final tax on the interest on bills and bonds? Will I still be required to add the interest to my other income and do the tax bracket calculations then deduct tax withheld? Your question is poorly presented. What's the question? Not a tax expert... I think it's final tax and you don't have to declare it anywhere that's why you get that ka certificate showing you have already paid it... They should stop sending those things they come 1 year late... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/20/2007 Posts: 767
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maka wrote:Impunity wrote:tom_boy wrote:Impunity wrote:Ebenyo wrote:maka wrote:ibsi wrote:Ebenyo wrote:today is the auction.hebu @maka atupee results tujue. For the FXD2/2018/10 bond, the coupon is 12.502% which means after WT you only get 11.2518%. I succeeded in getting this one.Sent the RTGS to cbk yesterday.Marks my second paper. Thanks to @Maka for ispiration. How much in face value did you put in? Otherwise you would have been better off buying njugu karanga with your 100K shillings. Is WHT a final tax on the interest on bills and bonds? Will I still be required to add the interest to my other income and do the tax bracket calculations then deduct tax withheld? Your question is poorly presented. What's the question? Not a tax expert... I think it's final tax and you don't have to declare it anywhere that's why you get that ka certificate showing you have already paid it... They should stop sending those things they come 1 year late... Thanks @ Maka. Any tax expert to corroborate? They must find it difficult....... those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority. -G. Massey.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2016 Posts: 1,996 Location: Kitale
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Impunity wrote:Ebenyo wrote:maka wrote:ibsi wrote:Ebenyo wrote:today is the auction.hebu @maka atupee results tujue. For the FXD2/2018/10 bond, the coupon is 12.502% which means after WT you only get 11.2518%. I succeeded in getting this one.Sent the RTGS to cbk yesterday.Marks my second paper. Thanks to @Maka for ispiration. How much in face value did you put in? Otherwise you would have been better off buying njugu karanga with your 100K shillings. Njugu karanga is not bad.The difference is that in the t.bond and stocks,my money is working for me while in njugu karanga,i will have to work for money.I prefer my money working for me as my target is to attain financial freedom. Towards the goal of financial freedom
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2016 Posts: 1,996 Location: Kitale
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maka wrote:Ebenyo wrote:maka wrote:ibsi wrote:Ebenyo wrote:today is the auction.hebu @maka atupee results tujue. For the FXD2/2018/10 bond, the coupon is 12.502% which means after WT you only get 11.2518%. I succeeded in getting this one.Sent the RTGS to cbk yesterday.Marks my second paper. Thanks to @Maka for ispiration. Build it pole pole trust me you won't regret... You will buy me a mzinga when we hit a few millions on face value.... 😊 As the saying goes,haraka haraka haina baraka.That day is coming  Towards the goal of financial freedom
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 5/7/2010 Posts: 38 Location: Nairobi
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Ebenyo wrote:maka wrote:Ebenyo wrote:maka wrote:ibsi wrote:Ebenyo wrote:today is the auction.hebu @maka atupee results tujue. For the FXD2/2018/10 bond, the coupon is 12.502% which means after WT you only get 11.2518%. I succeeded in getting this one.Sent the RTGS to cbk yesterday.Marks my second paper. Thanks to @Maka for ispiration. Build it pole pole trust me you won't regret... You will buy me a mzinga when we hit a few millions on face value.... 😊 As the saying goes,haraka haraka haina baraka.That day is coming Does anyone there have a spreadsheet or anything that can track and record bond issues, interest, maturity dates, alerts etc? I'll be grateful. Trust in God and endure patiently.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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ibsi wrote:Ebenyo wrote:maka wrote:Ebenyo wrote:maka wrote:ibsi wrote:Ebenyo wrote:today is the auction.hebu @maka atupee results tujue. For the FXD2/2018/10 bond, the coupon is 12.502% which means after WT you only get 11.2518%. I succeeded in getting this one.Sent the RTGS to cbk yesterday.Marks my second paper. Thanks to @Maka for ispiration. Build it pole pole trust me you won't regret... You will buy me a mzinga when we hit a few millions on face value.... 😊 As the saying goes,haraka haraka haina baraka.That day is coming Does anyone there have a spreadsheet or anything that can track and record bond issues, interest, maturity dates, alerts etc? I'll be grateful. You have to do it manually... I have a personal tracker... Can send that to you... The CBK website this days give maturities for monthly... https://www.centralbank....s-bonds/treasury-bonds/
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/20/2007 Posts: 767
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For the veterans in bond trading, I have 2 questions 1. What additional bank charges have you experienced when receiving interest/principal from CBK? 2. How easy is it to sell the Tbill or Bond on Secondary Market? Can I get my money at whatever prevailing price in say 1 week in event of an emergency? They must find it difficult....... those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority. -G. Massey.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,325 Location: Masada
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tom_boy wrote:For the veterans in bond trading, I have 2 questions
1. What additional bank charges have you experienced when receiving interest/principal from CBK?
2. How easy is it to sell the Tbill or Bond on Secondary Market? Can I get my money at whatever prevailing price in say 1 week in event of an emergency? Answer to no.1,NIL charges according to my Simba Commercial Bank. No.2 we await Maka. Portfolio: Sold
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