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Treasury Bills and Bonds
maka
#901 Posted : Tuesday, August 07, 2018 4:13:17 AM
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Smh.... A South African-linked credit-only micro-finance firm Real People Kenya Ltd is unable to service the Sh1.26 billion bond issued in 2015 and is seeking to convert it into equity.

https://www.google.com/a...-asAMP-5yya5f/index.html
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SamuelWachira
#902 Posted : Tuesday, August 07, 2018 4:13:30 PM
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Lesson… The security of a bond lies in the issuer’s ability to meet interest payments and repay the principal upon maturity. And not the contractual promises laid out in the prospectus

Real People Ltd has been showing weakness consistently

https://www.businessdail...9322-8h2tkiz/index.html

https://www.businessdail...9530-5gjs53z/index.html

https://www.businessdail...60430-ykp5lf/index.html



Pesa Nane
#903 Posted : Tuesday, August 07, 2018 5:11:12 PM
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[quote=maka]Smh.... A South African-linked credit-only micro-finance firm Real People Kenya Ltd is unable to service the Sh1.26 billion bond issued in 2015 and is seeking to convert it into equity.

https://www.google.com/a...asAMP-5yya5f/index.html[/quote]

Investing KE 101: Never ever put money on 254 corporate bonds (heri angalao ununue nyama ule unone! - Pesa Nane)
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
whiteowl
#904 Posted : Tuesday, August 07, 2018 10:17:09 PM
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[quote=maka]Smh.... A South African-linked credit-only micro-finance firm Real People Kenya Ltd is unable to service the Sh1.26 billion bond issued in 2015 and is seeking to convert it into equity.

https://www.google.com/a...asAMP-5yya5f/index.html[/quote]

A bond issue that was a monkey IPO in disguise.Investors will be forced to take up worthless shares.
Chaka
#905 Posted : Tuesday, August 07, 2018 10:43:54 PM
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So, its like the owners lent themselves the bond cash?

[quote=maka]Smh.... A South African-linked credit-only micro-finance firm Real People Kenya Ltd is unable to service the Sh1.26 billion bond issued in 2015 and is seeking to convert it into equity.

https://www.google.com/a...asAMP-5yya5f/index.html[/quote]
Angelica _ann
#906 Posted : Tuesday, August 07, 2018 10:55:13 PM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
[quote=maka]Smh.... A South African-linked credit-only micro-finance firm Real People Kenya Ltd is unable to service the Sh1.26 billion bond issued in 2015 and is seeking to convert it into equity.

https://www.google.com/a...asAMP-5yya5f/index.html[/quote]

Investing KE 101: Never ever put money on 254 corporate bonds (heri angalao ununue nyama ule unone! - Pesa Nane)


smile true, this is what killed CP in the 90s. Dishonesty & lack of guaranteed.
Plus poor regulatory environment. Burr!!!
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
Ericsson
#907 Posted : Wednesday, August 08, 2018 2:32:24 AM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
[quote=maka]Smh.... A South African-linked credit-only micro-finance firm Real People Kenya Ltd is unable to service the Sh1.26 billion bond issued in 2015 and is seeking to convert it into equity.

https://www.google.com/a...asAMP-5yya5f/index.html[/quote]

Investing KE 101: Never ever put money on 254 corporate bonds (heri angalao ununue nyama ule unone! - Pesa Nane)


smile true, this is what killed CP in the 90s. Dishonesty & lack of guaranteed.
Plus poor regulatory environment. Burr!!!


The 254 economy is limping and the company's products aren't finding takers
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
maka
#908 Posted : Wednesday, August 08, 2018 10:52:07 AM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
[quote=maka]Smh.... A South African-linked credit-only micro-finance firm Real People Kenya Ltd is unable to service the Sh1.26 billion bond issued in 2015 and is seeking to convert it into equity.

https://www.google.com/a...asAMP-5yya5f/index.html[/quote]

Investing KE 101: Never ever put money on 254 corporate bonds (heri angalao ununue nyama ule unone! - Pesa Nane)


But surely kazi ya CMA ni nini? They are busy chasing after bond dealers pesa kidogo kidogo instead of following up on big issues kama hii... They will tell us its a learning curve.
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Pesa Nane
#909 Posted : Thursday, August 09, 2018 10:46:01 AM
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maka wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
[quote=maka]Smh.... A South African-linked credit-only micro-finance firm Real People Kenya Ltd is unable to service the Sh1.26 billion bond issued in 2015 and is seeking to convert it into equity.

https://www.google.com/a...asAMP-5yya5f/index.html[/quote]

Investing KE 101: Never ever put money on 254 corporate bonds (heri angalao ununue nyama ule unone! - Pesa Nane)


But surely kazi ya CMA ni nini? They are busy chasing after bond dealers pesa kidogo kidogo instead of following up on big issues kama hii... They will tell us its a learning curve.


Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
Chaka
#910 Posted : Thursday, August 09, 2018 1:26:41 PM
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So will bond holders be paid interest for that maturity extension or only the principal?
Pesa Nane wrote:




maka
#911 Posted : Tuesday, August 14, 2018 10:12:08 AM
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https://www.centralbank....0DATED%2027.08.2018.pdf

August 2014 Bond prospectus...
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Angelica _ann
#912 Posted : Tuesday, August 14, 2018 12:00:58 PM
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maka wrote:
https://www.centralbank.go.ke/uploads/treasury_bonds_prospectuses/698895975_August%202018%2010yr%20New%20FXD1-2018-10%20DATED%2027.08.2018.pdf

August 2018 Bond prospectus...


smile
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
maka
#913 Posted : Tuesday, August 14, 2018 12:34:58 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
maka wrote:
https://www.centralbank.go.ke/uploads/treasury_bonds_prospectuses/698895975_August%202018%2010yr%20New%20FXD1-2018-10%20DATED%2027.08.2018.pdf

August 2018 Bond prospectus...


smile


Asante
I stand corrected... smile
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Angelica _ann
#914 Posted : Wednesday, August 15, 2018 7:33:56 PM
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maka wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
maka wrote:
https://www.centralbank.go.ke/uploads/treasury_bonds_prospectuses/698895975_August%202018%2010yr%20New%20FXD1-2018-10%20DATED%2027.08.2018.pdf

August 2018 Bond prospectus...


smile


Asante
I stand corrected... smile


Karibu. Where would interest lie wajameni?
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
Impunity
#915 Posted : Thursday, August 16, 2018 10:12:05 AM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
maka wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
maka wrote:
https://www.centralbank.go.ke/uploads/treasury_bonds_prospectuses/698895975_August%202018%2010yr%20New%20FXD1-2018-10%20DATED%2027.08.2018.pdf

August 2018 Bond prospectus...


smile


Asante
I stand corrected... smile


Karibu. Where would interest lie wajameni?


Can the payment be wired directly without moving to the cbk office in cbd?
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

maka
#916 Posted : Thursday, August 16, 2018 10:58:44 AM
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Impunity wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
maka wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
maka wrote:
https://www.centralbank.go.ke/uploads/treasury_bonds_prospectuses/698895975_August%202018%2010yr%20New%20FXD1-2018-10%20DATED%2027.08.2018.pdf

August 2018 Bond prospectus...


smile


Asante
I stand corrected... smile


Karibu. Where would interest lie wajameni?


Can the payment be wired directly without moving to the cbk office in cbd?


Yep....Just have your bank do an RTGS...Quoting the details of the paper....Face Value applied for...And also your Virtual account number...Rem you have to drop your application physically at the tender box hapo CBK...
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Impunity
#917 Posted : Saturday, August 18, 2018 6:37:29 PM
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maka wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
maka wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
maka wrote:
https://www.centralbank.go.ke/uploads/treasury_bonds_prospectuses/698895975_August%202018%2010yr%20New%20FXD1-2018-10%20DATED%2027.08.2018.pdf

August 2018 Bond prospectus...


smile


Asante
I stand corrected... smile


Karibu. Where would interest lie wajameni?


Can the payment be wired directly without moving to the cbk office in cbd?


Yep....Just have your bank do an RTGS...Quoting the details of the paper....Face Value applied for...And also your Virtual account number...Rem you have to drop your application physically at the tender box hapo CBK...


Can my ex drop for me the tender?
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

Impunity
#918 Posted : Monday, August 20, 2018 8:40:34 AM
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Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
maka wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
maka wrote:
https://www.centralbank.go.ke/uploads/treasury_bonds_prospectuses/698895975_August%202018%2010yr%20New%20FXD1-2018-10%20DATED%2027.08.2018.pdf

August 2018 Bond prospectus...


smile


Asante
I stand corrected... smile


Karibu. Where would interest lie wajameni?


Can the payment be wired directly without moving to the cbk office in cbd?


Yep....Just have your bank do an RTGS...Quoting the details of the paper....Face Value applied for...And also your Virtual account number...Rem you have to drop your application physically at the tender box hapo CBK...


Can my ex drop for me the tender?


Or I drop it myselfu?
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

maka
#919 Posted : Monday, August 20, 2018 3:09:51 PM
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https://www.businessdail...3046-edqohyz/index.html


Investors who bought Chase Bank corporate bonds worth Sh4.8 billion have been dealt a big blow after it emerged that their only hope of recouping their money is tied to what will be left after Mauritian lender SBM Holdings carves out the good assets from the collapsed bank.

The Kenya Depositors Insurance Corporation (KDIC) chief executive, Mohamud Mohamud, in a phone interview Tuesday said the interests of depositors come first in the bank’s ongoing rescue while bondholders, like other creditors, play second fiddle.

“According to our law, those are creditors and so they will be catered for under the residue (Chase) Bank of 25 per cent. If you look at our law, we first pay the depositors then the creditors,” said Mr Mohamud.
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maka
#920 Posted : Monday, August 20, 2018 3:12:26 PM
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Impunity wrote:
Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
maka wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
maka wrote:
https://www.centralbank.go.ke/uploads/treasury_bonds_prospectuses/698895975_August%202018%2010yr%20New%20FXD1-2018-10%20DATED%2027.08.2018.pdf

August 2018 Bond prospectus...


smile


Asante
I stand corrected... smile


Karibu. Where would interest lie wajameni?


Can the payment be wired directly without moving to the cbk office in cbd?


Yep....Just have your bank do an RTGS...Quoting the details of the paper....Face Value applied for...And also your Virtual account number...Rem you have to drop your application physically at the tender box hapo CBK...


Can my ex drop for me the tender?


Or I drop it myselfu?


Lol anyone can drop it for you...Kesho ni holiday so I think they will close leo...
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