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winmak		#781 Posted : Saturday, October 28, 2017 12:20:41 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 12/1/2007 Posts: 537 Location: Nakuru		I opened a cds with cbk 2 years ago during the high yield rate but never got to bid successfully. Now I want to get back. Is there a penalty for dormancy? For investors as a whole, returns decrease as motion increases ~ WB
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winmak		#782 Posted : Saturday, October 28, 2017 12:22:15 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 12/1/2007 Posts: 537 Location: Nakuru		Why the insistence on investors with ACTIVE CDS accounts? For investors as a whole, returns decrease as motion increases ~ WB
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Speculz		#783 Posted : Saturday, October 28, 2017 12:34:29 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 5/6/2011 Posts: 391 Location: Nairobi		winmak wrote: I opened a cds with cbk 2 years ago during the high yield rate but never got to bid successfully. Now I want to get back. Is there a penalty for dormancy? No penalty,just apply afresh to reactivate your account. Welcome to modernity. "You can't have everything. Where would you put it?" - Stephen Wright
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maka		#784 Posted : Saturday, October 28, 2017 4:55:04 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi		Speculz wrote: winmak wrote: I opened a cds with cbk 2 years ago during the high yield rate but never got to bid successfully. Now I want to get back. Is there a penalty for dormancy? No penalty,just apply afresh to reactivate your account. Welcome to modernity. You have to visit CBK and re do the mandate form Sucks...and is a waste of time... possunt quia posse videntur
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winmak		#785 Posted : Saturday, October 28, 2017 6:47:43 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 12/1/2007 Posts: 537 Location: Nakuru		Thanks a lot good people For investors as a whole, returns decrease as motion increases ~ WB
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maka		#786 Posted : Monday, October 30, 2017 9:14:36 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi		Morning everyone... Sent the implied yields and yield curve for last week... possunt quia posse videntur
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mamilli		#787 Posted : Monday, October 30, 2017 9:33:13 AM
Rank: Member Joined: 10/6/2015 Posts: 249 Location: Nairobi		maka wrote: Speculz wrote: winmak wrote: I opened a cds with cbk 2 years ago during the high yield rate but never got to bid successfully. Now I want to get back. Is there a penalty for dormancy? No penalty,just apply afresh to reactivate your account. Welcome to modernity. You have to visit CBK and re do the mandate form Sucks...and is a waste of time... You can also instruct your bank to bid on your behalf.Most banks charge a commission of 0.25% of the bid amount(min1500-5000max).I did this awhile back via cfcstanbic and the convinience is totally worth it.This doesn't require you to have an active CBK account btw. Never lose your position in a bull market,BTFD.
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maka		#788 Posted : Monday, October 30, 2017 9:46:05 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi		mamilli wrote: maka wrote: Speculz wrote: winmak wrote: I opened a cds with cbk 2 years ago during the high yield rate but never got to bid successfully. Now I want to get back. Is there a penalty for dormancy? No penalty,just apply afresh to reactivate your account. Welcome to modernity. You have to visit CBK and re do the mandate form Sucks...and is a waste of time... You can also instruct your bank to bid on your behalf.Most banks charge a commission of 0.25% of the bid amount(min1500-5000max).I did this awhile back via cfcstanbic and the convinience is totally worth it.This doesn't require you to have an active CBK account btw. But why should i pay 0.25% when i can get the thing for free? Rather without charge... possunt quia posse videntur
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mamilli		#789 Posted : Monday, October 30, 2017 10:07:24 AM
Rank: Member Joined: 10/6/2015 Posts: 249 Location: Nairobi		maka wrote: mamilli wrote: maka wrote: Speculz wrote: winmak wrote: I opened a cds with cbk 2 years ago during the high yield rate but never got to bid successfully. Now I want to get back. Is there a penalty for dormancy? No penalty,just apply afresh to reactivate your account. Welcome to modernity. You have to visit CBK and re do the mandate form Sucks...and is a waste of time... You can also instruct your bank to bid on your behalf.Most banks charge a commission of 0.25% of the bid amount(min1500-5000max).I did this awhile back via cfcstanbic and the convinience is totally worth it.This doesn't require you to have an active CBK account btw. But why should i pay 0.25% when i can get the thing for free? Rather without charge... Keyword is CONVINIENCE,but i get your point. Never lose your position in a bull market,BTFD.
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maka		#790 Posted : Monday, October 30, 2017 10:15:53 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi		mamilli wrote: maka wrote: mamilli wrote: maka wrote: Speculz wrote: winmak wrote: I opened a cds with cbk 2 years ago during the high yield rate but never got to bid successfully. Now I want to get back. Is there a penalty for dormancy? No penalty,just apply afresh to reactivate your account. Welcome to modernity. You have to visit CBK and re do the mandate form Sucks...and is a waste of time... You can also instruct your bank to bid on your behalf.Most banks charge a commission of 0.25% of the bid amount(min1500-5000max).I did this awhile back via cfcstanbic and the convinience is totally worth it.This doesn't require you to have an active CBK account btw. But why should i pay 0.25% when i can get the thing for free? Rather without charge... Keyword is CONVINIENCE,but i get your point. What happens when it comes to disposing...You hv to contact the bank? possunt quia posse videntur
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mamilli		#791 Posted : Monday, October 30, 2017 10:33:17 AM
Rank: Member Joined: 10/6/2015 Posts: 249 Location: Nairobi		maka wrote: mamilli wrote: maka wrote: mamilli wrote: maka wrote: Speculz wrote: winmak wrote: I opened a cds with cbk 2 years ago during the high yield rate but never got to bid successfully. Now I want to get back. Is there a penalty for dormancy? No penalty,just apply afresh to reactivate your account. Welcome to modernity. You have to visit CBK and re do the mandate form Sucks...and is a waste of time... You can also instruct your bank to bid on your behalf.Most banks charge a commission of 0.25% of the bid amount(min1500-5000max).I did this awhile back via cfcstanbic and the convinience is totally worth it.This doesn't require you to have an active CBK account btw. But why should i pay 0.25% when i can get the thing for free? Rather without charge... Keyword is CONVINIENCE,but i get your point. What happens when it comes to disposing...You hv to contact the bank? Elder,not quite sure about that.The scenario i have is when one holds a paper to maturity.Nonetheless any trading in this instance is through the bank,coz actually CBK "doesnt know you" Never lose your position in a bull market,BTFD.
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Speculz		#792 Posted : Monday, October 30, 2017 11:03:57 AM
Rank: Member Joined: 5/6/2011 Posts: 391 Location: Nairobi		maka wrote: mamilli wrote: maka wrote: mamilli wrote: maka wrote: Speculz wrote: winmak wrote: I opened a cds with cbk 2 years ago during the high yield rate but never got to bid successfully. Now I want to get back. Is there a penalty for dormancy? No penalty,just apply afresh to reactivate your account. Welcome to modernity. You have to visit CBK and re do the mandate form Sucks...and is a waste of time... You can also instruct your bank to bid on your behalf.Most banks charge a commission of 0.25% of the bid amount(min1500-5000max).I did this awhile back via cfcstanbic and the convinience is totally worth it.This doesn't require you to have an active CBK account btw. But why should i pay 0.25% when i can get the thing for free? Rather without charge... Keyword is CONVINIENCE,but i get your point. What happens when it comes to disposing...You hv to contact the bank? What also happens in the unfortunate event the bank does an Imperial ? "You can't have everything. Where would you put it?" - Stephen Wright
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mamilli		#793 Posted : Monday, October 30, 2017 11:28:13 AM
Rank: Member Joined: 10/6/2015 Posts: 249 Location: Nairobi		Speculz wrote: maka wrote: mamilli wrote: maka wrote: mamilli wrote: maka wrote: Speculz wrote: winmak wrote: I opened a cds with cbk 2 years ago during the high yield rate but never got to bid successfully. Now I want to get back. Is there a penalty for dormancy? No penalty,just apply afresh to reactivate your account. Welcome to modernity. You have to visit CBK and re do the mandate form Sucks...and is a waste of time... You can also instruct your bank to bid on your behalf.Most banks charge a commission of 0.25% of the bid amount(min1500-5000max).I did this awhile back via cfcstanbic and the convinience is totally worth it.This doesn't require you to have an active CBK account btw. But why should i pay 0.25% when i can get the thing for free? Rather without charge... Keyword is CONVINIENCE,but i get your point. What happens when it comes to disposing...You hv to contact the bank? What also happens in the unfortunate event the bank does an Imperial ? Valid questions,unfortunately i dont have concrete responses. Never lose your position in a bull market,BTFD.
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Taurrus		#794 Posted : Monday, October 30, 2017 12:26:44 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 8/25/2015 Posts: 839 Location: Kite		mamilli wrote: Speculz wrote: maka wrote: mamilli wrote: maka wrote: mamilli wrote: maka wrote: Speculz wrote: winmak wrote: I opened a cds with cbk 2 years ago during the high yield rate but never got to bid successfully. Now I want to get back. Is there a penalty for dormancy? No penalty,just apply afresh to reactivate your account. Welcome to modernity. You have to visit CBK and re do the mandate form Sucks...and is a waste of time... You can also instruct your bank to bid on your behalf.Most banks charge a commission of 0.25% of the bid amount(min1500-5000max).I did this awhile back via cfcstanbic and the convinience is totally worth it.This doesn't require you to have an active CBK account btw. But why should i pay 0.25% when i can get the thing for free? Rather without charge... Keyword is CONVINIENCE,but i get your point. What happens when it comes to disposing...You hv to contact the bank? What also happens in the unfortunate event the bank does an Imperial ? Valid questions,unfortunately i dont have concrete responses. Don't be a biz unnecessarily!
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Pesa Nane		#795 Posted : Monday, October 30, 2017 12:31:34 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 5/25/2012 Posts: 4,105 Location: 08c		mamilli wrote: Speculz wrote: maka wrote: mamilli wrote: maka wrote: mamilli wrote: maka wrote: Speculz wrote: winmak wrote: I opened a cds with cbk 2 years ago during the high yield rate but never got to bid successfully. Now I want to get back. Is there a penalty for dormancy? No penalty,just apply afresh to reactivate your account. Welcome to modernity. You have to visit CBK and re do the mandate form Sucks...and is a waste of time... You can also instruct your bank to bid on your behalf.Most banks charge a commission of 0.25% of the bid amount(min1500-5000max).I did this awhile back via cfcstanbic and the convinience is totally worth it.This doesn't require you to have an active CBK account btw. But why should i pay 0.25% when i can get the thing for free? Rather without charge... Keyword is CONVINIENCE,but i get your point. What happens when it comes to disposing...You hv to contact the bank? What also happens in the unfortunate event the bank does an Imperial ? Valid questions,unfortunately i dont have concrete responses. This is no longer possible. It was a loophole/conduit for money launderers and got stopped in 2016. Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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maka		#796 Posted : Monday, October 30, 2017 2:18:41 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi		Pesa Nane wrote: mamilli wrote: Speculz wrote: maka wrote: mamilli wrote: maka wrote: mamilli wrote: maka wrote: Speculz wrote: winmak wrote: I opened a cds with cbk 2 years ago during the high yield rate but never got to bid successfully. Now I want to get back. Is there a penalty for dormancy? No penalty,just apply afresh to reactivate your account. Welcome to modernity. You have to visit CBK and re do the mandate form Sucks...and is a waste of time... You can also instruct your bank to bid on your behalf.Most banks charge a commission of 0.25% of the bid amount(min1500-5000max).I did this awhile back via cfcstanbic and the convinience is totally worth it.This doesn't require you to have an active CBK account btw. But why should i pay 0.25% when i can get the thing for free? Rather without charge... Keyword is CONVINIENCE,but i get your point. What happens when it comes to disposing...You hv to contact the bank? What also happens in the unfortunate event the bank does an Imperial ? Valid questions,unfortunately i dont have concrete responses. This is no longer possible. It was a loophole/conduit for money launderers and got stopped in 2016. Tap sale extension... possunt quia posse videntur
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maka		#797 Posted : Monday, November 06, 2017 11:22:39 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi		maka wrote: Pesa Nane wrote: mamilli wrote: Speculz wrote: maka wrote: mamilli wrote: maka wrote: mamilli wrote: maka wrote: Speculz wrote: winmak wrote: I opened a cds with cbk 2 years ago during the high yield rate but never got to bid successfully. Now I want to get back. Is there a penalty for dormancy? No penalty,just apply afresh to reactivate your account. Welcome to modernity. You have to visit CBK and re do the mandate form Sucks...and is a waste of time... You can also instruct your bank to bid on your behalf.Most banks charge a commission of 0.25% of the bid amount(min1500-5000max).I did this awhile back via cfcstanbic and the convinience is totally worth it.This doesn't require you to have an active CBK account btw. But why should i pay 0.25% when i can get the thing for free? Rather without charge... Keyword is CONVINIENCE,but i get your point. What happens when it comes to disposing...You hv to contact the bank? What also happens in the unfortunate event the bank does an Imperial ? Valid questions,unfortunately i dont have concrete responses. This is no longer possible. It was a loophole/conduit for money launderers and got stopped in 2016. Tap sale extension... possunt quia posse videntur
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Ericsson		#798 Posted : Tuesday, November 07, 2017 8:23:50 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,639 Location: NAIROBI		Treasury in talks with IMF Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Pure millioneare(PM)		#799 Posted : Tuesday, November 07, 2017 12:52:05 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 11/1/2008 Posts: 38		I am selling a treasury bond in the secondary market. For this I have to go through my broker who will source a buyer and agree on a price. This looks abit kienyenji like batter trading unlike shares where trading is more automated. Are there loopholes in this process? How is the settlement done after the bond is successfully sold?
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maka		#800 Posted : Tuesday, November 07, 2017 1:33:25 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi		Pure millioneare(PM) wrote: I am selling a treasury bond in the secondary market. For this I have to go through my broker who will source a buyer and agree on a price. This looks abit kienyenji like batter trading unlike shares where trading is more automated. Are there loopholes in this process? How is the settlement done after the bond is successfully sold? Its DvP once the bond changes ownership...CBK will debit the account of the buyer and credit the account of the seller. The process is basically this, (1) You have gotten a bid on your offer... (2) You fill the green CBK sale order forms + a cover letter for onward transmission to CBK. (3) CBK calls you and asks about the specifics of the bond... (4) The CBK guys avail the bond for the transaction...your broker trades it via Avento...He?She gets an order no (OPODSC) and ATS ID this are the 2 details needed for settlement. (5) Buyers bond CDS account gets credited with the paper...while the bank account gets debited ...Sellers bank account gets credited with cash...bond CDS gets debited. There is no loophole... possunt quia posse videntur
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