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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Pesa Nane wrote:maka wrote:KulaRaha wrote:snipermnoma wrote:maka wrote:Taurrus wrote:maka wrote:Pesa Nane wrote:Ericsson wrote:CBK only accepted sh.6bn out of 30bn
Uhurunomics tactics screwed this country maka wrote:I agree @Ericsonn totally effed up market...@Taurus the governor said he is not taking anymore expensive cash from investors...if your bid was way off the yield curve pole kwako it gets rejected...problem is we will have to borrow externally... Sorry but I see prudence. On a personal level, would you pick any money thrown at you at exorbitant rates? Remember only 600 liquid Kenyans want to 'extort' treasury and (over) profit on the backs of 41 million tax payers. Disclaimer: I quoted 14.000% and anxiously awaiting my fate  14% umepata hiyo...but look at it this way we borrow externally putting pressure on the shilling...any depreciation on the Kshs vs the dollar piles unnecessary pressure on the treasury guys... You mean one gets the % you quote? thought final % is uniform. Go back to the issue prospectus...go to 14% and check how much you will pay per 100. Wenye walipata kudos to them. @pesanane did you get? Looks like your bid was just within the limit. Cut off was 13.6%, how did you get 14% unless you are a chosen one like Waiguru...  Check....#589 Was hopeful.....but missed. But here comes second chance. 13.555 is no different from 14% for we small people true... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,901
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Does this bond has withholding tax & if so at? In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Angelica _ann wrote:Does this bond has withholding tax & if so at? All Infrastructure Bonds dont have the tax element... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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maka wrote:Pesa Nane wrote:maka wrote:KulaRaha wrote:snipermnoma wrote:maka wrote:Taurrus wrote:maka wrote:Pesa Nane wrote:Ericsson wrote:CBK only accepted sh.6bn out of 30bn
Uhurunomics tactics screwed this country maka wrote:I agree @Ericsonn totally effed up market...@Taurus the governor said he is not taking anymore expensive cash from investors...if your bid was way off the yield curve pole kwako it gets rejected...problem is we will have to borrow externally... Sorry but I see prudence. On a personal level, would you pick any money thrown at you at exorbitant rates? Remember only 600 liquid Kenyans want to 'extort' treasury and (over) profit on the backs of 41 million tax payers. Disclaimer: I quoted 14.000% and anxiously awaiting my fate 14% umepata hiyo...but look at it this way we borrow externally putting pressure on the shilling...any depreciation on the Kshs vs the dollar piles unnecessary pressure on the treasury guys... You mean one gets the % you quote? thought final % is uniform. Go back to the issue prospectus...go to 14% and check how much you will pay per 100. Wenye walipata kudos to them. @pesanane did you get? Looks like your bid was just within the limit. Cut off was 13.6%, how did you get 14% unless you are a chosen one like Waiguru... Check....#589 Was hopeful.....but missed. But here comes second chance. 13.555 is no different from 14% for we small people true... Seen it has traded leo... IFB 1/2017/12Yr 13.5073 95.1457 95.0770 100,000,000 possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/11/2010 Posts: 1,011 Location: nairobi
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@maka what does this mean
IFB 1/2017/12Yr 13.5073 95.1457 95.0770 100,000,000
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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bartum wrote:@maka what does this mean
IFB 1/2017/12Yr 13.5073 95.1457 95.0770 100,000,000
Traded yield : 13.5073 Clean Price per 100 : 95.0770 Dirty Price per 100: 95.1457 Volume : 100,000,000 possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/14/2006 Posts: 1,311
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maka wrote:bartum wrote:@maka what does this mean
IFB 1/2017/12Yr 13.5073 95.1457 95.0770 100,000,000
Traded yield : 13.5073 Clean Price per 100 : 95.0770 Dirty Price per 100: 95.1457 Volume : 100,000,000
Just wondering why would someone want to buy at that price ...... instead of buying from the tap sale which has a better yield.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Liv wrote:maka wrote:bartum wrote:@maka what does this mean
IFB 1/2017/12Yr 13.5073 95.1457 95.0770 100,000,000
Traded yield : 13.5073 Clean Price per 100 : 95.0770 Dirty Price per 100: 95.1457 Volume : 100,000,000
Just wondering why would someone want to buy at that price ...... instead of buying from the tap sale which has a better yield. Hiyo bond market imejaa mafioso ... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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Liv wrote:maka wrote:bartum wrote:@maka what does this mean
IFB 1/2017/12Yr 13.5073 95.1457 95.0770 100,000,000
Traded yield : 13.5073 Clean Price per 100 : 95.0770 Dirty Price per 100: 95.1457 Volume : 100,000,000
Just wondering why would someone want to buy at that price ...... instead of buying from the tap sale which has a better yield. Dirty broker deal.... Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/24/2008 Posts: 112
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I've noticed hakuna 182 day Treasury Bill auction slated for value date 13.03.2017...ama gava has pesa ya kutosha...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,639 Location: NAIROBI
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CBK is trying to play hard ball. Investors are shunning the bond wanting higher rates. Rates have to go up;it's inevitable Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/18/2014 Posts: 1,127
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Ericsson wrote:CBK is trying to play hard ball.
Investors are shunning the bond wanting higher rates.
Rates have to go up;it's inevitable What is cbk attempting here? With food inflation @16.5% which constitutes 36%(I think it should be way higher than this) of the CPI and overall inflation - after a lot of fudging with the weighting and computations - checking in @9.04% for the month of February, how do they expect to maintain the rates within the yield curve? This development is all the more disconcerting when you consider that it is coming on the back of deflationary credit conditions! Furthermore, Treasury still wants to play Santa Claus coz it's an election year: 2.6T budget and a 900b deficit with stagnating or declining revenue collections and an escalating debt repayment burden...where is the sanity here? The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/25/2015 Posts: 839 Location: Kite
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lochaz-index wrote:Ericsson wrote:CBK is trying to play hard ball.
Investors are shunning the bond wanting higher rates.
Rates have to go up;it's inevitable What is cbk attempting here? With food inflation @16.5% which constitutes 36%(I think it should be way higher than this) of the CPI and overall inflation - after a lot of fudging with the weighting and computations - checking in @9.04% for the month of February, how do they expect to maintain the rates within the yield curve? This development is all the more disconcerting when you consider that it is coming on the back of deflationary credit conditions! Furthermore, Treasury still wants to play Santa Claus coz it's an election year: 2.6T budget and a 900b deficit with stagnating or declining revenue collections and an escalating debt repayment burden...where is the sanity here? Thanks ,Ahsante saana!
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/21/2015 Posts: 151
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Taurrus wrote:lochaz-index wrote:Ericsson wrote:CBK is trying to play hard ball.
Investors are shunning the bond wanting higher rates.
Rates have to go up;it's inevitable What is cbk attempting here? With food inflation @16.5% which constitutes 36%(I think it should be way higher than this) of the CPI and overall inflation - after a lot of fudging with the weighting and computations - checking in @9.04% for the month of February, how do they expect to maintain the rates within the yield curve? This development is all the more disconcerting when you consider that it is coming on the back of deflationary credit conditions! Furthermore, Treasury still wants to play Santa Claus coz it's an election year: 2.6T budget and a 900b deficit with stagnating or declining revenue collections and an escalating debt repayment burden...where is the sanity here? Thanks ,Ahsante saana! How do they justify bank rate caps if risk free rate is higher than the bank rates? CBK is capped too.
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/25/2015 Posts: 839 Location: Kite
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AndyC wrote:Taurrus wrote:lochaz-index wrote:Ericsson wrote:CBK is trying to play hard ball.
Investors are shunning the bond wanting higher rates.
Rates have to go up;it's inevitable What is cbk attempting here? With food inflation @16.5% which constitutes 36%(I think it should be way higher than this) of the CPI and overall inflation - after a lot of fudging with the weighting and computations - checking in @9.04% for the month of February, how do they expect to maintain the rates within the yield curve? This development is all the more disconcerting when you consider that it is coming on the back of deflationary credit conditions! Furthermore, Treasury still wants to play Santa Claus coz it's an election year: 2.6T budget and a 900b deficit with stagnating or declining revenue collections and an escalating debt repayment burden...where is the sanity here? Thanks ,Ahsante saana! How do they justify bank rate caps if risk free rate is higher than the bank rates? CBK is capped too. Eh!! 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Finally got my statement...told you guys 1 day I will post my bonds story here...pole pole a month at a time. possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,325 Location: Masada
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maka wrote:Finally got my statement...told you guys 1 day I will post my bonds story here...pole pole a month at a time. Tell me please! Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/11/2006 Posts: 970 Location: Home
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Elephant Man wrote:I've noticed hakuna 182 day Treasury Bill auction slated for value date 13.03.2017...ama gava has pesa ya kutosha... 182 day paper still missing for value date 20.03.2017
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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2/14/5 and 1/9/15 30 Billion... possunt quia posse videntur
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