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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,325 Location: Masada
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maka wrote:@ Impunity hope i got what you meant..
This is what happens lets take the example of the 1.2016.20,lets say you got it at 14.60 at the primary for 5 mio,current rates are around 14-13.80 for the paper...You as Impunity wants to sell...there is that form on the cbk website that you appoint up to 5 brokers/investment banks who can secondary trade for you...so you can have Genghis...Dyer...Sterling...etc so you talk to the Fixed income dealers for whoever you put on your form tell them you want to sell...they will source the market for a bid + rate if its to your liking you start the process of selling... If I got in at the IPO", the initial auction and I want out 6 months later....please go on. (I am planning to get in in the secondary market so the 14.60 is not my matter) Portfolio: Sold
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Impunity wrote:maka wrote:@ Impunity hope i got what you meant..
This is what happens lets take the example of the 1.2016.20,lets say you got it at 14.60 at the primary for 5 mio,current rates are around 14-13.80 for the paper...You as Impunity wants to sell...there is that form on the cbk website that you appoint up to 5 brokers/investment banks who can secondary trade for you...so you can have Genghis...Dyer...Sterling...etc so you talk to the Fixed income dealers for whoever you put on your form tell them you want to sell...they will source the market for a bid + rate if its to your liking you start the process of selling... If I got in at the IPO", the initial auction and I want out 6 months later....please go on. (I am planning to get in in the secondary market so the 14.60 is not my matter) It really depends if you will get a buyer then...depends on your broker if they are efficient you can sell it...Btw IFBs are more marketable you will make something out of it... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,325 Location: Masada
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maka wrote:Impunity wrote:maka wrote:@ Impunity hope i got what you meant..
This is what happens lets take the example of the 1.2016.20,lets say you got it at 14.60 at the primary for 5 mio,current rates are around 14-13.80 for the paper...You as Impunity wants to sell...there is that form on the cbk website that you appoint up to 5 brokers/investment banks who can secondary trade for you...so you can have Genghis...Dyer...Sterling...etc so you talk to the Fixed income dealers for whoever you put on your form tell them you want to sell...they will source the market for a bid + rate if its to your liking you start the process of selling... If I got in at the IPO", the initial auction and I want out 6 months later....please go on. (I am planning to get in in the secondary market so the 14.60 is not my matter) It really depends if you will get a buyer then...depends on your broker if they are efficient you can sell it...Btw IFBs are more marketable you will make something out of it... I can call you? Inbox me your no. pale pale. Hatuelewani on one key point. Thanks Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Impunity wrote:maka wrote:Impunity wrote:maka wrote:@ Impunity hope i got what you meant..
This is what happens lets take the example of the 1.2016.20,lets say you got it at 14.60 at the primary for 5 mio,current rates are around 14-13.80 for the paper...You as Impunity wants to sell...there is that form on the cbk website that you appoint up to 5 brokers/investment banks who can secondary trade for you...so you can have Genghis...Dyer...Sterling...etc so you talk to the Fixed income dealers for whoever you put on your form tell them you want to sell...they will source the market for a bid + rate if its to your liking you start the process of selling... If I got in at the IPO", the initial auction and I want out 6 months later....please go on. (I am planning to get in in the secondary market so the 14.60 is not my matter) It really depends if you will get a buyer then...depends on your broker if they are efficient you can sell it...Btw IFBs are more marketable you will make something out of it... I can call you? Inbox me your no. pale pale. Hatuelewani on one key point. Thanks Sawa possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/11/2014 Posts: 228 Location: Nairobi
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@Impunity, please continue asking your questions here; I am (and perhaps others are) getting instructed
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,325 Location: Masada
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iris wrote:@Impunity, please continue asking your questions here; I am (and perhaps others are) getting instructed Utaripa the consultations? Portfolio: Sold
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,325 Location: Masada
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@charcoal, please check your inbox for some investoqueries. Thank me. Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/11/2014 Posts: 228 Location: Nairobi
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Impunity wrote:iris wrote:@Impunity, please continue asking your questions here; I am (and perhaps others are) getting instructed Utaripa the consultations? Sure  . You or @Maka? But to be fair, if you are not paying, then why do you want me to pay? You know, the spirit of Wazua..
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,325 Location: Masada
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iris wrote:Impunity wrote:iris wrote:@Impunity, please continue asking your questions here; I am (and perhaps others are) getting instructed Utaripa the consultations? Sure . You or @Maka? But to be fair, if you are not paying, then why do you want me to pay? You know, the spirit of Wazua.. I pay bundles and calls to milk info from @maka...so u must pay me the cost of acquiring the info. Portfolio: Sold
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/30/2016 Posts: 332 Location: Kayole
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iris wrote:Impunity wrote:iris wrote:@Impunity, please continue asking your questions here; I am (and perhaps others are) getting instructed Utaripa the consultations? Sure . You or @Maka? But to be fair, if you are not paying, then why do you want me to pay? You know, the spirit of Wazua.. @iris why pay for information on trading in bills and bonds??? cbk website is self explanatory and many wazuans will freely answer any queries you have KEGN, KPLC, KQ, SCOM
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/11/2014 Posts: 228 Location: Nairobi
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mkate_nusu wrote:iris wrote:Impunity wrote:iris wrote:@Impunity, please continue asking your questions here; I am (and perhaps others are) getting instructed Utaripa the consultations? Sure . You or @Maka? But to be fair, if you are not paying, then why do you want me to pay? You know, the spirit of Wazua.. @iris why pay for information on trading in bills and bonds??? cbk website is self explanatory and many wazuans will freely answer any queries you have Laziness is to blame in part. I am okay with bills but I have been wanting to research on bonds and then @Impunity started asking most of the questions I wanted answered. But now that he is asking to be paid, I probably should complete my education at the CBK website.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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iris wrote:mkate_nusu wrote:iris wrote:Impunity wrote:iris wrote:@Impunity, please continue asking your questions here; I am (and perhaps others are) getting instructed Utaripa the consultations? Sure . You or @Maka? But to be fair, if you are not paying, then why do you want me to pay? You know, the spirit of Wazua.. @iris why pay for information on trading in bills and bonds??? cbk website is self explanatory and many wazuans will freely answer any queries you have Laziness is to blame in part. I am okay with bills but I have been wanting to research on bonds and then @Impunity started asking most of the questions I wanted answered. But now that he is asking to be paid, I probably should complete my education at the CBK website. Kuuliza ni bure.... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,325 Location: Masada
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iris wrote:mkate_nusu wrote:iris wrote:Impunity wrote:iris wrote:@Impunity, please continue asking your questions here; I am (and perhaps others are) getting instructed Utaripa the consultations? Sure . You or @Maka? But to be fair, if you are not paying, then why do you want me to pay? You know, the spirit of Wazua.. @iris why pay for information on trading in bills and bonds??? cbk website is self explanatory and many wazuans will freely answer any queries you have Laziness is to blame in part. I am okay with bills but I have been wanting to research on bonds and then @Impunity started asking most of the questions I wanted answered. But now that he is asking to be paid, I probably should complete my education at the CBK website. If you are a green-horn, you wont get any reliable info on bonds when you check in at the CBK site...try and come back we compare your knowledge. Bond trading is not as direct as Bills... remember to bond is to tie, and to tie for the long term, so the contract is much complex. @charcoal,please I hope you have replied to my 7-point queries. Portfolio: Sold
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Impunity wrote:iris wrote:mkate_nusu wrote:iris wrote:Impunity wrote:iris wrote:@Impunity, please continue asking your questions here; I am (and perhaps others are) getting instructed Utaripa the consultations? Sure . You or @Maka? But to be fair, if you are not paying, then why do you want me to pay? You know, the spirit of Wazua.. @iris why pay for information on trading in bills and bonds??? cbk website is self explanatory and many wazuans will freely answer any queries you have Laziness is to blame in part. I am okay with bills but I have been wanting to research on bonds and then @Impunity started asking most of the questions I wanted answered. But now that he is asking to be paid, I probably should complete my education at the CBK website. If you are a green-horn, you wont get any reliable info on bonds when you check in at the CBK site...try and come back we compare your knowledge. Bond trading is not as direct as Bills... remember to bond is to tie, and to tie for the long term, so the contract is much complex. @charcoal,please I hope you have replied to my 7-point queries. Doing that shortly... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,325 Location: Masada
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maka wrote:Impunity wrote:iris wrote:mkate_nusu wrote:iris wrote:Impunity wrote:iris wrote:@Impunity, please continue asking your questions here; I am (and perhaps others are) getting instructed Utaripa the consultations? Sure . You or @Maka? But to be fair, if you are not paying, then why do you want me to pay? You know, the spirit of Wazua.. @iris why pay for information on trading in bills and bonds??? cbk website is self explanatory and many wazuans will freely answer any queries you have Laziness is to blame in part. I am okay with bills but I have been wanting to research on bonds and then @Impunity started asking most of the questions I wanted answered. But now that he is asking to be paid, I probably should complete my education at the CBK website. If you are a green-horn, you wont get any reliable info on bonds when you check in at the CBK site...try and come back we compare your knowledge. Bond trading is not as direct as Bills... remember to bond is to tie, and to tie for the long term, so the contract is much complex. @charcoal,please I hope you have replied to my 7-point queries. Doing that shortly... Thank you in advance. Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 5/21/2013 Posts: 72 Location: KENYA
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  Looking at the above auction results, there's been a gradual shift in the past weeks. First there seemed to be a preference for the year-paper but now it seems to have shifted to the 182-day. What does this signal? Also, what happens in event of undersubscription across the board? I see that happening. “The market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent.” - John Maynard Keynes
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,325 Location: Masada
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Asanda @maka. Now I sent a few more queries, like tofautu kati ya Coupon Rate (%) and Quoted Yield as indicated in the CBK calculator! Also ni nini hizi "Fixed Coupon & Zero Coupon"? Portfolio: Sold
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Impunity wrote:Asanda @maka. Now I sent a few more queries, like tofautu kati ya Coupon Rate (%) and Quoted Yield as indicated in the CBK calculator! Also ni nini hizi "Fixed Coupon & Zero Coupon"?  Got derailed (JW) but il most def jibu... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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shiznit wrote:Looking at the above auction results, there's been a gradual shift in the past weeks. First there seemed to be a preference for the year-paper but now it seems to have shifted to the 182-day. What does this signal? Also, what happens in event of undersubscription across the board? I see that happening. @Shiznit where was market weighted average for the last 20 year (1.2016.20) and prior to that the 1.2016.10....? possunt quia posse videntur
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