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What's best way to invest 500k 'Tazama Chapaa' cash
jaggernaut
#1 Posted : Monday, January 23, 2012 9:40:30 PM
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I never used to take these TV games seriously until my very close relative won 500k in Citizen's Tazama chapaa recently. Now the rela is looking for ideas to invest the sudden cash. Where can the rela get the best returns?
Impunity
#2 Posted : Monday, January 23, 2012 9:48:09 PM
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T-Bills.
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#3 Posted : Monday, January 23, 2012 9:49:19 PM
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Wao ! lucky for him/her... tell her whatever she does he should leave some for the nse ..
2012
#4 Posted : Tuesday, January 24, 2012 9:37:13 AM
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Easy comes easy goes... Let's talk one year from today.
Tell him to pay/clear debts first.

BBI will solve it
:)
mlennyma
#5 Posted : Tuesday, January 24, 2012 9:40:03 AM
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If you are a believer,first give ceaser 50k and plan for 450k not 500k
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2012
#6 Posted : Tuesday, January 24, 2012 9:54:40 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
If you are a believer,first give ceaser 50k and plan for 450k not 500k


By ceasar do you mean God or Government?

BBI will solve it
:)
mlennyma
#7 Posted : Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:01:28 AM
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Sori i meant god
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McReggae
#8 Posted : Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:20:38 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
Sori i meant god


god or God?
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lovely2010
#9 Posted : Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:26:39 AM
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jaggernaut wrote:
I never used to take these TV games seriously until my very close relative won 500k in Citizen's Tazama chapaa recently. Now the rela is looking for ideas to invest the sudden cash. Where can the rela get the best returns?


Currently, TBills is the only option. If he is paying debt, he can use the interest he is earning to pay for it. Or he can use the interest to pay rent or he can reinvest the interest again in Tbills so that the amount can grow...Currently hatakosa kitu 20000 after 3months if he invest in tbills.
Sure
#10 Posted : Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:48:48 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
If you are a believer,first give ceaser 50k and plan for 450k not 500k


Why give to ceaser? What qualifies as ceasers and not for ceaser. We have been so brainwashed by Revival churches that we believe God cannot understand that when you invest the money well, he will be receiving more in the long run instead of a one off 50,000 bob.


When you look at it keenly, God does not need your money to bless you. It is that Kapastor who needs your money so that he can buy a Range Rover, stupid!

Anyway, put the cash in KK and live off the dividends.
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The Merchant
#11 Posted : Tuesday, January 24, 2012 11:15:06 AM
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Sure wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
If you are a believer,first give ceaser 50k and plan for 450k not 500k


Why give to ceaser? What qualifies as ceasers and not for ceaser. We have been so brainwashed by Revival churches that we believe God cannot understand that when you invest the money well, he will be receiving more in the long run instead of a one off 50,000 bob.


When you look at it keenly, God does not need your money to bless you. It is that Kapastor who needs your money so that he can buy a Range Rover, stupid!

Anyway, put the cash in KK and live off the dividends.

ati the 10% will be higher in the long run....thats real funny Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
mlennyma
#12 Posted : Tuesday, January 24, 2012 11:29:59 AM
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Much as we would want to accuse our pastors and priests to suit ourselves not to offer to God,the 10% tithe is backed by the scriptures and was practised even during times of abraham..it is however not enforced but faith based.
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#13 Posted : Tuesday, January 24, 2012 11:36:14 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
Much as we would want to accuse our pastors and priests to suit ourselves not to offer to God,the 10% tithe is backed by the scriptures and was practised even during times of abraham..it is however not enforced but faith based.

Does this mean that god condones gambling ?..To me this Tazama Chapaa is just gambling
McReggae
#14 Posted : Tuesday, January 24, 2012 11:41:15 AM
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Chaka wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Much as we would want to accuse our pastors and priests to suit ourselves not to offer to God,the 10% tithe is backed by the scriptures and was practised even during times of abraham..it is however not enforced but faith based.

Does this mean that god condones gambling ?..To me this Tazama Chapaa is just gambling


Applause Applause Applause Applause Nice one!!!!
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Sure
#15 Posted : Tuesday, January 24, 2012 11:50:00 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
Much as we would want to accuse our pastors and priests to suit ourselves not to offer to God,the 10% tithe is backed by the scriptures and was practised even during times of abraham..it is however not enforced but faith based.


10% of your sweat and labour, not gambling proceeds.

By the way, was it 10% per month or per year or per season?.

@The Merchant, are you 8 four four material or what? If you invest the 500k and earn dividends of 50,000 per year, and give tithe of 10%, in the long run, you will be able to give more to the church as the returns will be higher as capital gains increase and the little dividends accumulate over the years. Got it?
Wisdom to detect when share prices hit rock bottom.
When interest on bonds keep going up, you know the bear run is on high street. When interest on bonds start leveling, the bear has met the bull and they have hit rock bottom. When the interest rates on bonds start coming down, the bull has overpowered the bear and you better be riding the bull.
Sure
#16 Posted : Tuesday, January 24, 2012 12:06:35 PM
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And this is where those knowledgeable should be allowed to talk. Am not speaking about knowledge you acquired from some Evangelical and Revival church in town, but from the source, the bible itself.

The Origin of Tithing

In the first part of this article on tithing it was established that Israel’s tithe was over 22%, and the people were to take care of the Levites. The Levites then tithed by bringing the 10% into the storehouse. This is the biblical Tithe. The New Testament does not require tithing but free will giving under the new Covenant. God mentioned no specific amount to the church. He is not telling prophets to tell the people to send in a $1,000 seed. In fact, Jesus, nor the apostles never used the word “seed” for giving money.

What we need to do is go back in history to see when the tithe was first established and required from the people, then we can determine if it is a practice for the Church today.

God did not command Adam to tithe, nor is it mentioned that Adam tithe of his own accord. Cain and Abel learned to sacrifice from Adam, to give an offering that was to be of blood not something that was from the work of their own hands (Genesis 4), but they did not tithe. Job, whom we have much detail of his life lived in the (pre?) Abrahamic period. He sacrificed but there is no mention of tithing. Considering how inventive some of the promoters of seed faith giving are today, it is surprising they have not found this the cause of Job’s affliction. You would think that Job would have needed to give something to remove Satan’s hand of attack against himself. Yet, the Bible is silent on this matter.

The fact remains-- there is no mention of giving any tenth of goods to a person, priest or God UNTIL Abraham. Lets go back to this first incident and examine carefully what took place. What we need to do is look at what exactly transpired with Abraham to see if this is the origin of the tithe as some of the prosperity seed-faith teacher’s claim.

In Genesis 14 we have the first reference to tithing and this pre-dates the Mosaic Law. This was a unique incident and relates to a special person at a certain time. Gen 14:17-20: “at the Valley of Shaveh (that is, the King's Valley), after his return from the defeat of Chedorlaomer and the kings who were with him. Then Melchizedek king of Salem brought out bread and wine; he was the priest of God Most High. And he blessed him and said: “Blessed be Abram of God Most High, Possessor of heaven and earth; And blessed be God Most High, who has delivered your enemies into your hand.” And he gave him a tithe of all.”

This is the first time a tithe is mentioned in the Bible. Did Abram tithe of all that he possessed? No. The first thing you find is that the “everything” mentioned did not belong to Abram. It was the property of other people, including Abram’s nephew Lot, who was captured by the armies of the kings. Abram gave away ten per cent of other people’s captured goods. I was thanksgiving offering to God on behalf of the people who had been miraculously rescued.

Lets step back a few verses. Genesis 14:16: ”And he brought back all the goods, and also brought again his brother Lot, and his goods, and the women also, and the people.”

After rescuing his nephew Lot from the alliance of the kings with Chedorlaomer he gave Melchizedek, king of Salem a tenth of everything that he plundered. It was from the spoils of war. That was what the tithe came from. Abra[ha]m did not tithe from his personal possessions but the spoils of war. And that is exactly what the New Testament says Hebrews 7:4: ”Now consider how great this man was, unto whom even the patriarch Abraham gave the tenth of the spoils.” A tithe was on what you earned, it was from your vocation (Lev. 27:30; Deut. 14:22-23,28; 2 Chron.31:5-6.)

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Wisdom to detect when share prices hit rock bottom.
When interest on bonds keep going up, you know the bear run is on high street. When interest on bonds start leveling, the bear has met the bull and they have hit rock bottom. When the interest rates on bonds start coming down, the bull has overpowered the bear and you better be riding the bull.
chikonde
#17 Posted : Tuesday, January 24, 2012 1:11:24 PM
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Keep the money in a bank for now and advise them buy, read and understand what this book says before making any move. It warns that "Wealth that comes quickly goes the same way."

http://en.wikipedia.org wiki/The_Richest_Man_in_Babylon_(book)
mlennyma
#18 Posted : Tuesday, January 24, 2012 1:53:58 PM
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@mr. Sure,i will only compare notes with you when you read the whole of prophet malachi.
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kyt
#19 Posted : Tuesday, January 24, 2012 2:04:03 PM
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Sure wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
If you are a believer,first give ceaser 50k and plan for 450k not 500k


Why give to ceaser? What qualifies as ceasers and not for ceaser. We have been so brainwashed by Revival churches that we believe God cannot understand that when you invest the money well, he will be receiving more in the long run instead of a one off 50,000 bob.


When you look at it keenly, God does not need your money to bless you. It is that Kapastor who needs your money so that he can buy a Range Rover, stupid!

Anyway, put the cash in KK and live off the dividends.

sure if you dont believe in tithing please dont start using pastors as an excuse! just stay with your money, no one has forced you to tithe
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mlennyma
#20 Posted : Tuesday, January 24, 2012 2:31:32 PM
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@Kyt...point blank:-x
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