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WHAT IS CLOUD COMPUTING
lemiso
#1 Posted : Friday, September 16, 2011 11:34:46 PM
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Any cloud consultant ...without industry hype and a non-technical explanation, what is cloud computing and how it can improve business.

Finally gathered courage to ask this, been ignorant and it does not seem to be a passing cloud infact its taking root.
jasonhill
#2 Posted : Saturday, September 17, 2011 4:34:08 AM
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Cloud computing is nothing new; the term "cloud" is just a marketing gimmick, the cloud representing the public internet. It is basically renting computing power, storage, and applications from a vendor that hosts all of the necessary hardware, software, and infrastructure for you, rather than having to buy and maintain it yourself. You pay a relatively small monthly fee to a cloud provider, and then you access your applications and data over the internet. They take care of all the back-end "technical stuff" for you, and usually provide you with an easy-to-use/understand control panel that allows you to manage your services/subscription.

It's a way for businesses to save money by renting software as a service or utility, rather than having to buy and maintain servers themselves. For a small business, this can help them get up and running with a reliable, powerful computing infrastructure for relatively low cash outlay.

The danger in cloud computing is the fact that all your important, critical data is being kept and maintained by a company in which you do not own and do not control, by people you do not know and trust, very possibly in a jurisdiction in which you or your business does not reside. In addition, once your business is fully dependent on the computing services that the cloud offers, the price will likely go up (way up), and it will be likely very difficult, time-consuming, and expensive to "jump off the cloud" and into your own, local computing systems. Lastly, you never really know what government, competitor, or hacker is looking at or modifying your data, which again, is likely stored or replicated far out of your sight or reach.

Best,

Hill
Mach G
#3 Posted : Saturday, September 17, 2011 7:16:56 AM
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Great description and analysis Hill
Cloud computing is now touted as the next "BIG" thing. The idea of using remote servers, usually far away in cyberspace instead of your own. No need for MS Office, Lotus Notes to be installed on your computer instead you log onto a website and schedule appts, write memos create slideshows, crunch numbers etc. To note there are a couple of setbacks but for those that do their work out in the market, in the community, it allows the transaction and exchange of info/data while your employees are in the field. At the workplace there are no humming server closets, no complex software, licence fees, reducing vendors doing all manner of work and tackling different problems on the same system. Some say it adds functionality and creates simplicity in that you deal with only one vendor who is providing the cloud computing and you leave him to deal with all other components to make it work efficiently.
Today some call it "Going Google", The calif. based company is said to be signing up 3000 businesses-a-day worldwide. Basically Google maybe trying to dethrone the king - Microsoft, well almost! MS released its own version of cloud computing in Office 365 and the competition is only getting more interesting.
bird_man
#4 Posted : Saturday, September 17, 2011 7:39:21 AM
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It's the inevitable future we all hate!Sad ...smile
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YesuWangu
#5 Posted : Sunday, September 18, 2011 12:27:51 PM
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Then again, if cloud computing is being touted as the next big thing, the saviour from licence fee what about open source software, the oss? It is a mystery why people are reluctant to get into the drivers' seat as it were of their own things. Maybe it has to do with global village mentality but being at the mercy of third parties is not something to be encouraged.

Surely the worst thing to happen to human beings is to be reduced to statistics in the competition between the mega corporations, to be entirely dependent on them while at it even for the simplest task as creating a powerpoint presentation or a spreadsheet or horror of horrors, typing a letter!

I think at the end of the day, the self reliant individual and organisation will be better off. Especially those that rely on open source software.

It is not inevitable, for those who avoid the herd mentality that plagues our societies today.
seppuku
#6 Posted : Sunday, September 18, 2011 2:56:07 PM
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I agree with @YesuWangu on this one. Free and Open Source Software (FOSS) is a much better alternative to cloud computing if you want to have more control over your data. It gives you the best of both worlds. Low cost and autonomy. Most FOSS solutions are immensely configurable and place relatively few restrictions on what you can do with them.
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bird_man
#7 Posted : Sunday, September 18, 2011 3:48:08 PM
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Get serious people!Free source or open source is not in competition with cloud computing....you can have your OSS hosted in the cloud.
Cloud is in competition with hardware manufacturers.At a bank for example,why buy each guy an i5processor machine with 4gb ram and 300gb HDD?They only use about 20% of that.Why not host your applications in a shared cloud where you use what is needed only?

Challenge is data security,network outages etc.
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YesuWangu
#8 Posted : Sunday, September 18, 2011 6:00:20 PM
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Thank you Mr. Seppuku for reminding me of that all-important word I did not mention - free.

It makes the difference, that 4 letter word.

I should add that there are free and open source software (FOSS) that have crossed into cloud computing. Especially in storage. But a selling point to the end consumers of cloud computing is that one does not need to install software, whether free or not, for preparing office documents into his quad core computer. So in effect one does not really need the quad core hardware when one can get the cloud.

Which exposes the under belly of the system - relying on too long a chain to get even the simplest of tasks done. One will need his ISP not to let him down to get his cloud computing done. That is one extra link that is too long.

So yes, Mr. bird_man, the 300gb disk, with all the required software installed (free while at it) still has use. Make that plenty of use, for the simple guys like yours truly who prefer not to leave the fingerprints of all their ten fingers all over the internet everyday.

The challenge of security and outages you have mentioned still stands. No cost and autonomy?

But back to the original posters' question, how can cloud computing improve business......yes it will, a million times over.

Outsourcing your work to the geeks and nerds (maximum respect to you guys) behind the clouds who just happen to be firing their top-of-the-range quad cores on all cylinders will definitely and without question improve their business.

But to each his own.
masukuma
#9 Posted : Sunday, September 18, 2011 10:38:11 PM
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all academic arguments!
it makes sense to have instances if you have computational work that is periodic e.g. people who sell gifts e.t.c. paying for machines to do your work when you need them the most for a small business is a great thing. you don't invest in hardware or power. and if you don't use, you don't pay..(maybe like $3 a month)
On the flipside - who has jurisdiction over data? privacy issues inline with the US patriot act. does any of you people that EC2 died twice this year and many 'EC2' centric sites like Quora were offline for the same duration?
I have a couple of EC2 machines is spin up once in a while but, its not a solution for everyone. its the same old 'dumb' terminal thing we kicked out ages ago. Going Hybrid for organizations is the way to go.
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Chokosh
#10 Posted : Saturday, October 08, 2011 6:08:04 AM
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bird_man wrote:
Get serious people!Free source or open source is not in competition with cloud computing....you can have your OSS hosted in the cloud.
Cloud is in competition with hardware manufacturers.



I agree with the bird_man... An example of cloud computing is google docs which is free. With time open source cloud computing will catch up (though I don't know how much I'd trust critical company data to persons that I know nothing of offering their services for free)
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