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am6612		#1 Posted : Thursday, September 15, 2011 2:11:56 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 9/12/2008 Posts: 20		Any residents of Rongai out there who have ideas on how the place can be made better for all as: 1.Rongai is a fast growing urban centre in Kenya without a municipal authority 2.no political will from the local area MP and councillors 3.neglected and forgotten by central government Below are the issues that need to be resolved and this will see quality life for the residents as well as more value for property: 1.lack of infrastructure, lighting and social amenities. Only one road that has tarmac(magadi road). Internal roads very narrow and are of earth. Traffic jams in Rongai are quite sickening and one spends 30min for a distance of only 3Km between Multimedia and Tuskys. 2.Mounds of garbage are becoming quite common 3.Uncontrolled and unplanned informal business 4.Insufficient waste water management It is only the residents who will help themselves.
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Gathige		#2 Posted : Thursday, September 15, 2011 3:01:45 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 3/29/2011 Posts: 2,242		@am6612. The only way out for Rongai is annexed as part of the metropolitan. As you are aware, currently it is under Olkejuado County Council which has vehemently opposed any of its regions being part of the metropolitan. As it is one, the Council collects rates and spends mostly on the pastoral related issues and not urban management. My 2 cents "Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
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Peppy		#3 Posted : Thursday, September 15, 2011 3:37:51 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 11/20/2006 Posts: 75 Location: Nairobi, Kenya		@am6612 A few years back there was a thread about bringing people in o'rongai together to form a community welfare group. You may want to search for this in the archives and take it forward. I can do everything through Christ who strengthens me: Phil 4: 13
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Cde Monomotapa		#4 Posted : Thursday, September 15, 2011 3:47:15 PM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/13/2011 Posts: 5,964		Gathige wrote: @am6612. The only way out for Rongai is annexed as part of the metropolitan. As you are aware, currently it is under Olkejuado County Council which has vehemently opposed any of its regions being part of the metropolitan. As it is one, the Council collects rates and spends mostly on the pastoral related issues and not urban management. My 2 cents Interestingly sad
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tony stark		#5 Posted : Thursday, September 15, 2011 4:30:16 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/8/2008 Posts: 947		I am so sorry for all the O rongai fellas who have to deal with crazy traffic every day etc etc (I hope that sounded sincere) But why did you move there. And once you are there you start demanding for changes "ooohhh serikali, ooohhh serikali, ooohhh!". Olkejuado County Council has to be concerned about pastoral issues if they don't who will? If you wanted to stay in runda you should just have moved to Runda as opposed to moving to O Rongai and start complaining that this place is not like runda.
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sihingwa		#6 Posted : Thursday, September 15, 2011 4:40:15 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 9/29/2010 Posts: 216 Location: Kenia		Hiyo Kali Tony! But the demand is for the most basic of needs...good roads and no garbage...simple. We in Rongai are not interested in the Runda 'greenery'
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Gathige		#7 Posted : Thursday, September 15, 2011 4:45:12 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 3/29/2011 Posts: 2,242		@ tony stark, We moved there to Jipanga as we plan on the move to Runda. But the place surely is just one big village and the Council has no idea on what to do with it. Investors have come in but they are as clueless as the Council. How else do you explain a fast growing town with now water and sewerage system and a thriving market on the roadside? Tunaomba serikali iingilie kati! "Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
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maka		#8 Posted : Thursday, September 15, 2011 5:27:15 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi		Kwanza with that Uchumi coming up just before stage 1 the jam in the near future will start from Banda school...Rongai indeed needs help its hurtling out of control. possunt quia posse videntur
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Cde Monomotapa		#9 Posted : Thursday, September 15, 2011 7:09:12 PM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/13/2011 Posts: 5,964		A buddy of mine would summarize Ronga as an "Urban Slum"
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bird_man		#10 Posted : Thursday, September 15, 2011 7:51:34 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/2/2006 Posts: 1,206 Location: Nairobi		I happen to live there and I'm thinking 3yrs from now it will be looking like Githurai. I think its a problem that's affecting most other places too.Used to live in South-B ten years ago and its slowly not looking so good esp with the 4-5 story flats. Formally employed people often live their employers' dream & forget about their own.
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earthvoice		#11 Posted : Thursday, September 15, 2011 8:34:19 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 1/29/2011 Posts: 257		Cde Monomotapa wrote: A buddy of mine would summarize Ronga as an "Urban Slum" Eish!!! "All intelligent investing is value investing -- acquiring more than you are paying for. You must value the business in order to value the stock." - Charlie Munger.
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Cde Monomotapa		#12 Posted : Thursday, September 15, 2011 8:40:54 PM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/13/2011 Posts: 5,964		earthvoice wrote: Cde Monomotapa wrote: A buddy of mine would summarize Ronga as an "Urban Slum" Eish!!! I know! Formal housing with no basic amenities.only difference is a lack of "flying toilets"
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lennz		#13 Posted : Friday, September 23, 2011 8:54:43 AM
Rank: Member Joined: 5/13/2009 Posts: 35		tony stark wrote: I am so sorry for all the O rongai fellas who have to deal with crazy traffic every day etc etc (I hope that sounded sincere) But why did you move there. And once you are there you start demanding for changes "ooohhh serikali, ooohhh serikali, ooohhh!". Olkejuado County Council has to be concerned about pastoral issues if they don't who will? If you wanted to stay in runda you should just have moved to Runda as opposed to moving to O Rongai and start complaining that this place is not like runda. Eish! @Tony U must not talk like that about our homeland. We are not interested in stayin elsewhere as u r suggesting. we are only stating in the affirmative what the authorities should be doing right and we shall continue pushing for it. O/Rongai will soon be a place to admire but we have to seek for solutions to existing problems. We are pro development and we like to settle in new places where we can afford a decent lifestyle in excellent homesteads. @cde ....The Urban Slum thingie is a self dream.Those who think its or will become a reality can continue dreaming. Ours is a metropolis dream...... The only place where dreams are impossible is your mind
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FRM2011		#14 Posted : Friday, September 23, 2011 9:38:13 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 11/5/2010 Posts: 2,459		I have lived in Rongai for the last 6 years and am afraid i have to agree with the critics that its headed the slum way. None of the dozens of roads that branch off from Magadi road is in its original size (6 metres). Take Umoja road for example, only one vehicle can pass at a time leaving no room for even a motorcycle. Its been grabbed on both sides and the owners have put up permanent structures complete with perimeter walls. The owner of Vision house opposite NBK realized he's the only one left out and expanded Vision house by grabbing part of the road. Where I stay, two landlords pump the filthy contents of their septic tanks to the road. We teamed up with the Public health officer, a Mr.Mutiso, to fight the guy but we lost. The land designated for the market, public cemetery & sewerage were all grabbed. The property I bought 6 years ago has appreciated by over 100% and I think its time to cut my losses and run.
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2012		#15 Posted : Friday, September 23, 2011 10:11:19 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi		am6612 wrote: 1.Rongai is a fast growing urban centre in Kenya without a municipal authority That right there is your greatest opportunity. Municipal authorities in my experience are the reason why things are worse and not better in other areas. Imagine if you form your own and every household and business contributed say 100/- to 500/- a month for all those things you've mentioned, that place will transform and attract a better caliber of investors. BBI will solve it :)
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AmHere		#16 Posted : Friday, September 23, 2011 10:20:17 AM
Rank: Member Joined: 7/7/2009 Posts: 93		I think the horse has already bolted on this one unless there is extremely radical action. 2012 wrote: am6612 wrote: 1.Rongai is a fast growing urban centre in Kenya without a municipal authority That right there is your greatest opportunity. Municipal authorities in my experience are the reason why things are worse and not better in other areas. Imagine if you form your own and every household and business contributed say 100/- to 500/- a month for all those things you've mentioned, that place will transform and attract a better caliber of investors.
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Foz00		#17 Posted : Saturday, September 24, 2011 6:34:38 AM
Rank: Member Joined: 1/13/2011 Posts: 297 Location: Nairobi		not just slum but a permanent slum with each slum dweller holding a title, bottom line its the people. drive through ngong which is also under occ and compare all aspects even attitude of airports!.
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m water		#18 Posted : Sunday, September 25, 2011 6:00:00 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 4/2/2009 Posts: 87		i feel you. it is a problem with many urban centers in Kenya. it is why as somebody once said " westlands has become a Kangemi instead of Kangemi becoming a Westlands"
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