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Kibaki orders immediate start of Lamu port project
freiks
#1 Posted : Tuesday, July 26, 2011 9:01:59 PM
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With Kibaki insisting that he wants the first ship next year in Lamu, what will this have in our economy and generally property market within the intended corridor

http://www.capitalfm.co....rt-of-lamu-port-project/
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Cde Monomotapa
#2 Posted : Tuesday, July 26, 2011 9:24:12 PM
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Stimulus package pap!
young
#3 Posted : Tuesday, July 26, 2011 9:41:51 PM
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[quote=freiks]With Kibaki insisting that he wants the first ship next year in Lamu, what will this have in our economy and generally property market within the intended corridor

http://www.capitalfm.co....t-of-lamu-port-project/[/quote]

Over to you real estate investors.
The problem is after MK tenure next year will the new govt continue with the project ?
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Sober
#4 Posted : Tuesday, July 26, 2011 10:00:52 PM
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I am waiting to see the 1000km railway line to southern sudan from our coast
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freiks
#5 Posted : Tuesday, July 26, 2011 11:10:46 PM
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I wish i never dilly dallied on the lamu plots, now am sure any property those sides is gold/diamond. Aii na hata Isiolo am sure the next prezzo will have to be with us or we do an EGYPT on him if he stops this momentum
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Equator
#6 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2011 12:06:34 AM
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Land is giving quick returns if you select wisely. Know some group that bought a piece at 2.4m in Feb11 and worth 3.4m by June. Another at 500K/pa at Isinya in December and a few months later going at 850K/pa. My land agent mentioned to me plans for a bypass road road from ICT city-Konza-Isinya-Kiserian-Maai Mahiu are at an advanced stage. I have yet to confirm this but if true, property along the planned route will sky rocket.

@Freiks,do not regret as it is never late, if you have Kshs go for
it.
jasonhill
#7 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2011 2:50:14 AM
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Sober wrote:
I am waiting to see the 1000km railway line to southern sudan from our coast


Good project for adult male refugees if you ask me. That's how the US built their railroads... they told Chinese immigrants that if they didn't pick up those hammers and pick axes and build them, they'd send them back to China.

Sounds harsh, but:

1. There are lots of able-bodied male adult refugees in some very large camps.

2. The railroads need to be built. Someone needs to build them, for the good of the country.

3. The government must step in to feed them anyway in order to avert a humanitarian crisis.

Remember, large infrastructure projects don't make money, they support money being made. Everyone likes to pretend we live in a "humanitarian time" in the 21st century, with wage protection, safety, lawsuits, unions, NGOs, etc. etc. but the fact of the matter is, none of that was around when the US and UK went through their industrial revolution. People wanted to eat? They wanted to stay? Then they worked. HARD.

That's how you build superpowers that last hundreds of years. You put idleness to work.

Thoughts?

Best,

Hill
mukiha
#8 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2011 9:50:03 AM
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This is probably going to be the greatest development project of independent Kenya. Noting that since independence, we have never added not even a single metre of rail to what the British built 100 years ago!

If you look at the Map of Kenya, you will see that all major human settlements are along the Uganda Railway. Now with LAPSSET, there will be a better distribution of settlemets and these will come with greater economic activities and social interaction.

Once this Mzee passes on, I suggest we name LAPSSET in his honor... "The Great Kibaki Corridor", perhaps.
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fresher2010
#9 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2011 9:56:40 AM
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mukiha wrote:
This is probably going to be the greatest development project of independent Kenya. Noting that since independence, we have never added not even a single metre of rail to what the British built 100 years ago!

If you look at the Map of Kenya, you will see that all major human settlements are along the Uganda Railway. Now with LAPSSET, there will be a better distribution of settlemets and these will come with greater economic activities and social interaction.

Once this Mzee passes on, I suggest we name LAPSSET in his honor... "The Great Kibaki Corridor", perhaps.



Indeed we should name it after him, though the way he is giving the Chinese all the contracts, not a good idea for the professionals in the building industry, plus a huge fraction of the money we pay them will go back to their economy instead of remaining in ours..

Hope whoever will come in after 2012 will realise the importance of construction/ infrastructure in the growth of an economy.
Jamaa wa mjengo
Sober
#10 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2011 9:58:13 AM
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PESA YA CAMPAIGN...
African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
Abby
#11 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2011 9:58:14 AM
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mukiha wrote:
This is probably going to be the greatest development project of independent Kenya. Noting that since independence, we have never added not even a single metre of rail to what the British built 100 years ago!

If you look at the Map of Kenya, you will see that all major human settlements are along the Uganda Railway. Now with LAPSSET, there will be a better distribution of settlemets and these will come with greater economic activities and social interaction.

Once this Mzee passes on, I suggest we name LAPSSET in his honor... "The Great Kibaki Corridor", perhaps.



The Mzee seems dead serious on his legacy; but all said, this guy is transforming Kenya and making people rich (including through property appreciation).

Good day.
Abby
#12 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:03:09 AM
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Sober wrote:
PESA YA CAMPAIGN...


Interesting!

But in Kenya, all is possible. Tough Country.

The Mzee seems genuine, though.
Cde Monomotapa
#13 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:07:04 AM
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Kazi Iendelee!!
stocksmaster
#14 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:13:10 AM
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jasonhill wrote:
Sober wrote:
I am waiting to see the 1000km railway line to southern sudan from our coast


Good project for adult male refugees if you ask me. That's how the US built their railroads... they told Chinese immigrants that if they didn't pick up those hammers and pick axes and build them, they'd send them back to China.

Sounds harsh, but:

1. There are lots of able-bodied male adult refugees in some very large camps.

2. The railroads need to be built. Someone needs to build them, for the good of the country.

3. The government must step in to feed them anyway in order to avert a humanitarian crisis.

Remember, large infrastructure projects don't make money, they support money being made. Everyone likes to pretend we live in a "humanitarian time" in the 21st century, with wage protection, safety, lawsuits, unions, NGOs, etc. etc. but the fact of the matter is, none of that was around when the US and UK went through their industrial revolution. People wanted to eat? They wanted to stay? Then they worked. HARD.

That's how you build superpowers that last hundreds of years. You put idleness to work.

Thoughts?

Best,

Hill


Interesting proposal. I would add to the list idle prisoners.

The Construction work in this proposed Rail,Road and Port project will be highly manual labour intensive. Some radical proposal like Jasonhills may need to be adopted for faster implimentation.Laughing out loudly

Happy hunting

Njung'e
#15 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2011 11:05:00 AM
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@Freiks,

Initially,the project was to be done by the Chinese but in order to attract funding,this has been opened up to investors from other regions.
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
sihingwa
#16 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2011 12:12:37 PM
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@ Stockmaster, Jason....maybe 'Kazi kwa vijana' would be ideal
eco
#17 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2011 12:58:54 PM
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mukiha wrote:
This is probably going to be the greatest development project of independent Kenya. Noting that since independence, we have never added not even a single metre of rail to what the British built 100 years ago!

If you look at the Map of Kenya, you will see that all major human settlements are along the Uganda Railway. Now with LAPSSET, there will be a better distribution of settlemets and these will come with greater economic activities and social interaction.

Once this Mzee passes on, I suggest we name LAPSSET in his honor... "The Great Kibaki Corridor", perhaps.


Very good news indeed, for boosting security and escalating development in the Northern Eastern Counties et al. and the nation at large. @Mukiha, by Mzee passing on I hope you mean retiring from Job No.1 post and not the other one. He said this project is doable in our (I suppose he meant his) lifetime. With the chinese machines 'chewing' the rocks literally they they have done along Thika Rd, I do believe it is doable.
maman
#18 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2011 2:07:35 PM
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Hi guys,
I love the JasonHill ideology taking care of the refugees is no mean task considering we have our own 4M + to take care of.
God Bless Kenya's industrialization.
smile
Kaka M
#19 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2011 2:29:16 PM
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At this rate, kenya is going to be a grand highway as opposed to a country but offcourse in a good way.
We have the Eastern, Greater Eastern, Southern,Northern By passes, Northern Corridor, and I bumped the other day into an expert who told me he was involved designing a road from Kibwezi,Kitui Mwingi, Isiolo and finally to Ethiopia guess it will be called the the Great Grand Eastern By pass.
Murenju
#20 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2011 2:31:50 PM
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Refugees - ?!
Prisoners - yes
Idle armed forces - yes
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