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kyt
#1 Posted : Friday, August 28, 2009 6:32:00 PM
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this investment bank makes a 123 million loss for the half year!!! my guy half year!! what will it post for a full year. isnt time people shifted or..... what is your take?

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jerry
#2 Posted : Friday, August 28, 2009 7:52:00 PM
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Who are the auditors?

Hotels will always serve the fruits/vegs of the season. In stocks,ur duty as a trader is to identify the HOTshare of the season.
The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
jaheim
#3 Posted : Friday, August 28, 2009 8:58:00 PM
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That is frightening,if you've got shares there brace for the worst,cause share holders are the last to be paid if the bank goes under

Jay
mwana
#4 Posted : Friday, August 28, 2009 9:52:00 PM
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I have a question. Say D and B collapses. Are my share safe? I think my shares 'should' be safe. Since I get my statement from CDSC,that means my shares are intact. The only way the shares or money can go is:

1. D&B sells my shares without my authorization and then they pocket the money and then collapse

2. I deposit money with D & B with the intention of buying shares and they pocket the money instead,then they collapse.

3. I sell my shares,and instead of promptly issuing a check to me,they pocket the money and then they collapse.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

I also heard they is a way of writing to the CMA and telling them to freeze your accounts whereby no one can sell your shares without authroziation.
Pablo
#5 Posted : Saturday, August 29, 2009 5:51:00 AM
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@ Mwana

You can also lose if you sell your shares,they delay giving you your cheque and it colapses before you get your cash. Nothing to do with them pocketing anything.


Want to be a millionaire.... plant a million cabbages and sell them at a bob...
Kamaa
#6 Posted : Saturday, August 29, 2009 6:04:00 AM
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i am neither a shareholder of d & b nor an employee but i feel this thread is doing some injustices to them....

kindly remember there are three option in any business venture...

1) to make profits...

2) to break even...

3) to make losses...

d & b only made loss like most of other companies and that is within business limits...

as much as you are trying to assess the magnitude of their losses...

the criticism is undue and it can result into investors panic...

you've heard me..
When you hear what I say, you will not understand. When you see what I do, you will not comprehend
kenmac
#7 Posted : Saturday, August 29, 2009 6:59:00 AM
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@ mwana.........you are right....if any broker goes under your shares are safe unless you are a shareholder of that specific brokerage company,or had cash in your a/c,of which you wait for assets liquidation to be compensated after settlement of liabilities. However if you're a kengen shareholder,and your broker goes under,kengen records will continue to reflect that you own shares in the company and can transfer the shares to another broker.......... e.g. In a case study of Nyaga stockbrokers,investors didn't loose their shares,they transferred to other stockbrokers. what was lost is any cash balances if any in their accounts which might be compensated though not fully.........I was a nyagah member,transferred to cfc.

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mdosi
#8 Posted : Saturday, August 29, 2009 7:55:00 AM
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I see no need to panic because d&b are not nyaga stockbrokers to sell your shares without authority. Second,it appears all investment banks and stockbrokers are going to report loses for this period. I moved from suntra in the beginning of this year to cfc but should i start moving again because they reported losses? I dont think so.

If you are still excited from yesterday's achievements,then today you have not achieved anything.
It's amazing what you can achieve when you get rid of fear.
stockyt
#9 Posted : Saturday, August 29, 2009 11:25:00 AM
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Havent seen the results yet but for a kenyan investment bank company to make that kind of loss is scary- how long will it take to consume all the reserve and capital. that is assuming loss was mainly due to reduction in commission revenue- means if things/market dont turn up -and they have little control on this,while costs remain constant - how long will they survive. I think all of them should embark on massive reduction of expenses
FundamentAli
#10 Posted : Sunday, August 30, 2009 10:09:00 AM
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One should note that this instituitons are also traders. They have a line item of unrealised losses. That means that they have taken positions in te stock market and the value of their holdings has gone down. Most investors including investment banks have unrealised losses as they have not sold their holdings. Once the market improves,all this will change. The total assets is what counts.

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