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too many road accidents
maka
#81 Posted : Monday, July 29, 2013 7:32:57 AM
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Fatalities January 1 to June 30 on major Nairobi roads;

Over 134,000 crashes occur on the Kenyan roads killing more than 4,600 and seriously injuring 11,000 people annually.

This is shocking but what is more shocking is that major Nairobi roads account, at the moment, for 34% of all the fatalities nationwide.

Mombasa road (upto Weighbridge):
197 fatalities

Ngong road:
133 fatalities

Thika Super Highway (upto Ruiru):
216 fatalities

Langata road:
88 fatalities

Waiyaki way:
61 fatalities

Jogoo road:
11 fatalities

Juja road:
9 fatalities

Kenyatta National Hospital (KNH) and the Nairobi City Mortuary recorded two hundred consecutive road traffic fatalities autopsied between May 2013
and June 2013 (140 KNH Mausoleum, 60 Nairobi City Mortuary).

The main road-user groups involved were pedestrians (62%), passengers (24%) and drivers (9%).

ROAD TRANSPORT DEPARTMENT
possunt quia posse videntur
carygoh
#82 Posted : Monday, July 29, 2013 7:38:31 AM
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Posts: 1,703
maka wrote:
Fatalities January 1 to June 30 on major Nairobi roads;

Over 134,000 crashes occur on the Kenyan roads killing more than 4,600 and seriously injuring 11,000 people annually.

This is shocking but what is more shocking is that major Nairobi roads account, at the moment, for 34% of all the fatalities nationwide.

Mombasa road (upto Weighbridge):
197 fatalities

Ngong road:
133 fatalities

Thika Super Highway (upto Ruiru):
216 fatalities

Langata road:
88 fatalities

Waiyaki way:
61 fatalities

Jogoo road:
11 fatalities

Juja road:
9 fatalities

Kenyatta National Hospital (KNH) and the Nairobi City Mortuary recorded two hundred consecutive road traffic fatalities autopsied between May 2013
and June 2013 (140 KNH Mausoleum, 60 Nairobi City Mortuary).

The main road-user groups involved were pedestrians (62%), passengers (24%) and drivers (9%).

ROAD TRANSPORT DEPARTMENT


waaah this is messed upPray Pray Pray
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CLK
#83 Posted : Monday, July 29, 2013 8:41:48 AM
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Posts: 846
watched a guy survive what would have been otherwise a grisly accident, guy was driving a Nissan Wingroad on Mombasa road, ahead of him was truck, doing abt 80kph, middle lane had a ma3 which was not that fast, i was in the last lane, guy decides to change lanes goes behind the ma3 and overtake the truck, truck hit the wingroad on the driver's side, did a 180 degree turn and faced the truck head-on then while spinning got off the road to the right of the truck, into a ditch and up the other side of the road, only that it did not get to the road tarmac itself, Guy got out and charged at the truck driver who by now had stopped and gotten out, this was just after GM and if he had done that a second earlier, he would have ended on the railway track itself.
CLK
#84 Posted : Monday, July 29, 2013 8:42:57 AM
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maka wrote:
Fatalities January 1 to June 30 on major Nairobi roads;

Over 134,000 crashes occur on the Kenyan roads killing more than 4,600 and seriously injuring 11,000 people annually.

This is shocking but what is more shocking is that major Nairobi roads account, at the moment, for 34% of all the fatalities nationwide.

Mombasa road (upto Weighbridge):
197 fatalities

Ngong road:
133 fatalities

Thika Super Highway (upto Ruiru):
216 fatalities

Langata road:
88 fatalities

Waiyaki way:
61 fatalities

Jogoo road:
11 fatalities

Juja road:
9 fatalities

Kenyatta National Hospital (KNH) and the Nairobi City Mortuary recorded two hundred consecutive road traffic fatalities autopsied between May 2013
and June 2013 (140 KNH Mausoleum, 60 Nairobi City Mortuary).

The main road-user groups involved were pedestrians (62%), passengers (24%) and drivers (9%).

ROAD TRANSPORT DEPARTMENT


Fatalities or injuries?? this sounds too much...
alma
#85 Posted : Monday, July 29, 2013 8:45:09 AM
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reading the kenyredcross twitter thread is realising that something is very wrong in this country. It's like drivers have a death wish and they plan to take others out too.

Drive srowry if carefurry is too hard to muster. Afadhali the guys who die, take a walk to the spine centre and you will drive srowry for the rest of your life.
Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
webish
#86 Posted : Monday, July 29, 2013 9:42:14 AM
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newfarer wrote:
20 students and teachers killed in kisii . drivers wacheni UJINGA.
most accidents happen due to speed.i doubt you could lose control if not speeding.haraka ya nini.
traffic
law enforcers dead asleep just as their boss kimaiyo.


This one was really really sad. Sad

Innocent Lives.

Life is joy, death is peace, but the transition is very difficult.
sitaki.kujulikana
#87 Posted : Monday, July 29, 2013 10:16:52 AM
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very sad, the problem with the reckless drivers is that they entangle lots of innocent people in their paths
jguru
#88 Posted : Monday, July 29, 2013 10:21:18 AM
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webish wrote:
newfarer wrote:
20 students and teachers killed in kisii . drivers wacheni UJINGA.
most accidents happen due to speed.i doubt you could lose control if not speeding.haraka ya nini.
traffic
law enforcers dead asleep just as their boss kimaiyo.


This one was really really sad. Sad

Innocent Lives.


Kimaiyo is set to earn 1.6 million a month in salary and allowances.

Isn't that simply crazy!

Sad

DAILY NATION

"Under the pay structure proposed by the National Police Service Commission (NPSC), the Inspector General will earn Sh1,689,500 in allowances in addition to his basic pay.

The basic pay for the Inspector-General ranges between Sh655,875 and Sh874,500 and he earns no allowances. However, the maximum pay could rise to Sh1.2 million if the NPSC proposals are adopted.

The Inspector-General would get a common allowance of Sh874,500, a house allowance of Sh500,000, an entertainment package of Sh50,000, an ‘extraneous’ allowance of Sh250,000 and Sh150,000 for domestic staff."
Set out to correct the world's wrongs and you will most certainly wind up adding to them.
Impunity
#89 Posted : Monday, July 29, 2013 10:24:22 AM
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Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 26,325
Location: Masada
jguru wrote:
webish wrote:
newfarer wrote:
20 students and teachers killed in kisii . drivers wacheni UJINGA.
most accidents happen due to speed.i doubt you could lose control if not speeding.haraka ya nini.
traffic
law enforcers dead asleep just as their boss kimaiyo.


This one was really really sad. Sad

Innocent Lives.


Kimaiyo is set to earn 1.6 million a month in salary and allowances.

Isn't that simply crazy!

Sad

DAILY NATION

"Under the pay structure proposed by the National Police Service Commission (NPSC), the Inspector General will earn Sh1,689,500 in allowances in addition to his basic pay.

The basic pay for the Inspector-General ranges between Sh655,875 and Sh874,500 and he earns no allowances. However, the maximum pay could rise to Sh1.2 million if the NPSC proposals are adopted.

The Inspector-General would get a common allowance of Sh874,500, a house allowance of Sh500,000, an entertainment package of Sh50,000, an ‘extraneous’ allowance of Sh250,000 and Sh150,000 for domestic staff."


This will surely reduce road accidents and city hoppa muggings.
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mlefu
#90 Posted : Monday, July 29, 2013 10:44:08 AM
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Location: nairobi
STOP advocating for SLOW driving..It contributes to more accidents..If you cant match the 80-110KM kindly give room for others, keep left..if need be stop and give way..happened to me ones on a busy two way road, the other driver after noticing my persistence simply pulled over..I offered a sugarcane as a sign of appreciation.
webish
#91 Posted : Wednesday, July 31, 2013 5:35:24 PM
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Location: Nairobi
I will not sit and pretend I cannot make a difference. In my small way, this is what I'll do SEE HERE.

"If you think you're too small to have an impact, try going to bed with a mosquito in the room." - Anita Roddick

Life is joy, death is peace, but the transition is very difficult.
maka
#92 Posted : Friday, November 01, 2013 7:22:13 AM
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Wololo this big buses honestlly dont have speed governors...when your doing 120kph plus in a small car and big scania bus overtakes you like you are standstill then you know something is wrong...
possunt quia posse videntur
Mukiri
#93 Posted : Friday, November 01, 2013 7:55:22 AM
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Joined: 7/11/2012
Posts: 5,222
jguru wrote:
webish wrote:
newfarer wrote:
20 students and teachers killed in kisii . drivers wacheni UJINGA.
most accidents happen due to speed.i doubt you could lose control if not speeding.haraka ya nini.
traffic
law enforcers dead asleep just as their boss kimaiyo.


This one was really really sad. Sad

Innocent Lives.


Kimaiyo is set to earn 1.6 million a month in salary and allowances.

Isn't that simply crazy!

Sad

DAILY NATION

"Under the pay structure proposed by the National Police Service Commission (NPSC), the Inspector General will earn Sh1,689,500 in allowances in addition to his basic pay.

The basic pay for the Inspector-General ranges between Sh655,875 and Sh874,500 and he earns no allowances. However, the maximum pay could rise to Sh1.2 million if the NPSC proposals are adopted.

The Inspector-General would get a common allowance of Sh874,500, a house allowance of Sh500,000, an entertainment package of Sh50,000, an ‘extraneous’ allowance of Sh250,000 and Sh150,000 for domestic staff."

This eating is what leads to sleeping while we die!

Proverbs 19:21
Siringi
#94 Posted : Friday, November 01, 2013 10:28:26 AM
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Joined: 6/8/2013
Posts: 2,517
We cab blame Kimaiyo all we can but the fundamental questions remain: -

1. Does Kimaiyo or his mboyz drive PSVs
2. Do they drink and drive?
3. Do they board old and overloaded buses or do they own them smile smile smile shhhhh
4. Do they repair potholes on roads?
5.Who licenses TLB and are hey aswerable to IG Kimaiyo

We need to address the root cause and look at the underlying problem in the face instead of looking at easy stop gap measures!

This one is beyond the IG!!!

as a country we need serious investment in safe public transport and IMO this we cannot leave 100% to private sectorShame on you

Look at what the proboxes are doing in the country side ? Sad Sad Sad People laughed as HE President Moi introduced Nyayo buses but if you look at what happens in civilised countries that is the way to go....

How does IG help in cases kama hizi???



"😖😡KQ makes money for everyone except the shareholder 😏😏 " overheard in Wazua
Siringi
#95 Posted : Tuesday, November 05, 2013 2:01:16 PM
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===>PSV Driving should be a Diploma Course

this I Like

Quotes:

At least 3,000 Kenyans have died on our roads every year since the early 1990s.

The victims of this horrendous carnage are drivers, passengers, pedestrians, cyclists and other innocent road users.

Each of these deaths comes with attendant losses in property and lifestyles.

And then there are the hundreds of thousands who live on with trauma, body injuries, pain and various forms of incapacity.
Government response

It has always been the season of those who went holidaying but never arrived, or did not return alive.

The government always responds in the same way — it reacts rather predictably, charging the offending driver if he survives, and then moving on in overt inaction, until another accident happens.

Ministers, other transport sector officials and experts have, meanwhile, found refuge in writing tomes of vehicular laws, by-laws, rules and policies to stem the tide, to no avail.

But isn’t the cause of our rogue road retardation simple?

Quickly profile any average PSV driver. Most of them have never gone beyond Standard Four education.

If he read beyond primary school, he barely survived through high school.

He is the sort of person you would not hire to landscape your lawn or paint a public toilet.

Yet he is just the man we all entrust with transporting Kenya’s human wealth.

It takes six years to become a general physician, and four years to become an economist.

COMPLICIT

One need only become an apprentice for two weeks at some decrepit bus-stop to earn the PSV driver stripes, and the State is complicit.

It quickly licences them to weave madly through traffic snarl-ups, heave-shifting precious human cargo through any pothole, nook or cranny of road shoulder, to reach Rongai, Garissa or Kisii earlier than everyone else on the road.

That, right there, is the problem. Educating a driver must take more than a week behind the wheel.

Just as in other skills like handwriting, knitting or cooking take years of practice to master, driving should be made a tertiary-level skills course.

DIPLOMA

Let our technical institutions seriously consider teaching passenger vehicle driving as a diploma-level course.

This is a matter of life and death, which must only be permitted to those who qualify for it.

The theoretical and practical courses of study should last not less than six months.

This would allow learners to attain some level of personal commitment to professional road use, and to ingrain good passenger service values.

It will save millions of lives.


"😖😡KQ makes money for everyone except the shareholder 😏😏 " overheard in Wazua
kiash
#96 Posted : Tuesday, November 05, 2013 6:38:25 PM
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Joined: 4/27/2010
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Location: Nyumbani
Siringi wrote:
===>PSV Driving should be a Diploma Course

this I Like

Quotes:

At least 3,000 Kenyans have died on our roads every year since the early 1990s.

The victims of this horrendous carnage are drivers, passengers, pedestrians, cyclists and other innocent road users.

Each of these deaths comes with attendant losses in property and lifestyles.

And then there are the hundreds of thousands who live on with trauma, body injuries, pain and various forms of incapacity.
Government response

It has always been the season of those who went holidaying but never arrived, or did not return alive.

The government always responds in the same way — it reacts rather predictably, charging the offending driver if he survives, and then moving on in overt inaction, until another accident happens.

Ministers, other transport sector officials and experts have, meanwhile, found refuge in writing tomes of vehicular laws, by-laws, rules and policies to stem the tide, to no avail.

But isn’t the cause of our rogue road retardation simple?

Quickly profile any average PSV driver. Most of them have never gone beyond Standard Four education.

If he read beyond primary school, he barely survived through high school.

He is the sort of person you would not hire to landscape your lawn or paint a public toilet.

Yet he is just the man we all entrust with transporting Kenya’s human wealth.

It takes six years to become a general physician, and four years to become an economist.

COMPLICIT

One need only become an apprentice for two weeks at some decrepit bus-stop to earn the PSV driver stripes, and the State is complicit.

It quickly licences them to weave madly through traffic snarl-ups, heave-shifting precious human cargo through any pothole, nook or cranny of road shoulder, to reach Rongai, Garissa or Kisii earlier than everyone else on the road.

That, right there, is the problem. Educating a driver must take more than a week behind the wheel.

Just as in other skills like handwriting, knitting or cooking take years of practice to master, driving should be made a tertiary-level skills course.

DIPLOMA

Let our technical institutions seriously consider teaching passenger vehicle driving as a diploma-level course.

This is a matter of life and death, which must only be permitted to those who qualify for it.

The theoretical and practical courses of study should last not less than six months.

This would allow learners to attain some level of personal commitment to professional road use, and to ingrain good passenger service values.

It will save millions of lives.





And still more will buy the "diplomas"
kiash
#97 Posted : Tuesday, November 05, 2013 6:41:09 PM
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I liked the way Eng Kamau talked @Mutindwa and thats the way to go but until some people stop staying /sleeping in the offices instead of being out there,People will continue dying.
maka
#98 Posted : Wednesday, November 06, 2013 6:15:00 PM
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maka wrote:
Wololo this big buses honestlly dont have speed governors...when your doing 120kph plus in a small car and big scania bus overtakes you like you are standstill then you know something is wrong...


Nyamira express...na ndio hiyo 10 feared dead...this things cruise like a nonesense
possunt quia posse videntur
McReggae
#99 Posted : Wednesday, November 06, 2013 6:21:12 PM
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Location: Nairobi
maka wrote:
maka wrote:
Wololo this big buses honestlly dont have speed governors...when your doing 120kph plus in a small car and big scania bus overtakes you like you are standstill then you know something is wrong...


Nyamira express...na ndio hiyo 10 feared dead...this things cruise like a nonesense


Eti two of their busses collided? Jeez!!!!
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amga
#100 Posted : Wednesday, November 06, 2013 10:29:04 PM
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its time the proposed law which punishes an entire sacco or matatu company when one of their own takes a wrong decision
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