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What Crimes have been Committed by Raila?
Abby
#1 Posted : Tuesday, April 12, 2011 7:25:57 AM
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Uhuru and Ruto have told us all sorts of things about Raila; one thing that comes out clearly is that they have nothing specific (say, corruption, impunity, etc) that they can accuse Raila of.

For example, Uhuru says those who refused to go to court and instead called for mass action should be the ones going to the Hague. I wish he could have said the same about those who rigged the election.

So, is Raila that bad? Which is a better choice between Raila and Uhuru/Ruto? Are the Rutos, Uhurus, etc afraid of a Raila Presidency because he is clean (to some degree) whereas they have some things to hide?

After all, light and darkness are 180 degrees apart, and people prefer darkness!
YesuWangu
#2 Posted : Tuesday, April 12, 2011 7:39:09 AM
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What a question, Abby! Have you forgotten he was once accused of 'masterminding' a coup? Well that is now over, unlike the current crimes at the ICC...the most aggrieved party, the president of the day already got his justice on that matter. He is a rehabilitated criminal in this regard.


There is that issue of molasses thing....that is often spoken about but apparently evidence is well, only good in websites and political rallies, not in court.

Apart from party hopping, saying gays should be arrested then denying he said that and all these other numerous useless things he does, I also would like to know.
Abby
#3 Posted : Tuesday, April 12, 2011 7:45:01 AM
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Thanks.

If he did mastermind a coup, then he was helping Kenyans!!

Seriously, I think Raila is a man to consider for this job. A man like Ruto, I hear he is fairly rich: do you know any company for which he has worked?

I suspect people do not want Raila because he has nothing to hide, just my thought.

Thanks
TAZ
#4 Posted : Tuesday, April 12, 2011 8:00:18 AM
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Abby wrote:
Uhuru and Ruto have told us all sorts of things about Raila; one thing that comes out clearly is that they have nothing specific (say, corruption, impunity, etc) that they can accuse Raila of.

For example, Uhuru says those who refused to go to court and instead called for mass action should be the ones going to the Hague. I wish he could have said the same about those who rigged the election.

So, is Raila that bad? Which is a better choice between Raila and Uhuru/Ruto? Are the Rutos, Uhurus, etc afraid of a Raila Presidency because he is clean (to some degree) whereas they have some things to hide?

After all, light and darkness are 180 degrees apart, and people prefer darkness!



Are you serious????
kingfisher
#5 Posted : Tuesday, April 12, 2011 8:00:55 AM
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Abby wrote:
Thanks.

If he did mastermind a coup, then he was helping Kenyans!!

Seriously, I think Raila is a man to consider for this job. A man like Ruto, I hear he is fairly rich: do you know any company for which he has worked?

I suspect people do not want Raila because he has nothing to hide, just my thought.

Thanks


That's your opinion boss. others have different opinions, so don't complain because they don't seem to like RAO for the same reasons that you do

And again maybe I don't like a clean guy up there ...have thought of that??

OR maybe I don't want a riddles sayer up there.. think of that too??

OR may be I don't want someone who may just one day forget he is president and oppose himself, or even defect to another party all together!!

There are so many reasons boss people can give, however unconvincing they could be to you and others like you... so the best you can do is to try CONVINCE us WHY we should consider him for that top job and forget about why you suspect people don't like him...that is their problem and it will be like that, like it or not. So think outside the box if you really want your man to get the job. Acha nyef nyef mingi!
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simonkabz
#6 Posted : Tuesday, April 12, 2011 8:16:19 AM
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@abby, allow me to pose the same question to you. What did baks do in the 1st term that made people hate him so much?? Anyway for one who supervised his followers in massacre n mass displacement (and now curiously pointing fingers), there's no greater crime my friend.
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Robinhood
#7 Posted : Tuesday, April 12, 2011 8:18:20 AM
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McReg... Uko wapi?
Great men are not always wise, neither do the aged understand judgement...
KulaRaha
#8 Posted : Tuesday, April 12, 2011 8:22:41 AM
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I dont like Raila, Ruto, Uhuru, Kibaki, Moi, etc etc.

But then I get accused of being a middle class whiner, a coward, etc etc.

But I still dont like any of them anymore...
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Jus Blazin
#9 Posted : Tuesday, April 12, 2011 8:50:26 AM
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@Abby, masterminding a coup was helping Kenyans? How now? Another thing, what has RAO done for Kenyans in his time as a PM? If RAO was a goal post, you wouldn't score against him. He would keep on changing. Mara yuko katikati ya pitch. Mara with the linesmen. Mara next to the opponents goal post. He provides no stability. Like someone says, he would even oppose himself. Not the kind of leader to be Mr.President IMHO.
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Abby
#10 Posted : Tuesday, April 12, 2011 8:52:33 AM
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Now tell me: what has Uhuru done for you guys? Raila has helped create democratic space, are you saying that is not important?

What has Ruto done for Kenya? And Kalonozo? It really depends on what one considers .....
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