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The Beauty Of Investing in Penny Lands
young
#1 Posted : Thursday, March 03, 2011 1:56:11 PM
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In real estate investment your best bet is to invest in authentic penny land. I am refering to investment in real estate not the land you buy to build your residential property. For residential property the location is important so is security. My focus is on investment property,

This is because quite unlike stocks it has enough room to grow. The get it at the cheapest rate you have to position when others are calling it bush or not looking in that direction.

The due diligence you need do is to ascertain and confirm prospects of city expansion in that direction which implies provision of infrastructural facilities in future.

This reminds me of a friend here who bought penny land for 350K (my local currency) in mid 2006. With expansion and population growth and migration of people to suburbs due to high rents in the city the area now is open with a lot of residetial buildings.

He sold one of the plots for a handsome 4.5 Million (local currency).

In Nairobi suburb I know those who bought into Ruiru, Kitenga, Syokimau, Isinya, Athi River, Thika Road and Mombassa road suburbs 4 to 5 years ago should be smiling now. They are the ones selling for the new entrants at exhorbitant prices.

They will use the sales proceed to re-position inwards on penny lands. The X bob they sole for 1/8 plot can fetch them 2 acres in the interior.

Please do not mind my spellings as I am not a Kenyan.


For me however the optimal returns in real estate is achieved when you develop your property to rent or sale. The easiest way is to buy some, sale a few when it reasonably appreciates and use that as seed capital to develop others. It is like using other peoples money (by positioning earlier) to develop your plot. With this you have minimal exposure to mortgage loan.

I do not believe property bubble will affect penny land in the nearest future. People tend to buy land for investment when the party is over , that is when the area is open, has become popular it is getting expensive.

Over time penny lands tend to explode and return multiples.

The wazua spirit as members is to educate and inform and learn from others within the limit of what we know in any chosen area irrespective of our differences in tribes, nationalities, etc. .
webish
#2 Posted : Thursday, March 03, 2011 2:04:56 PM
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nice job. keep on.

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#3 Posted : Thursday, March 03, 2011 3:12:11 PM
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@Young,thats a good analysis but on the other side,i think speculators are likely to sell off their land coz of the news of property bubble coming soon in Kenya and the prices are likely to drop.This has come at a time when i was in the eve of purchasing 2pieces of land in Kitengela(with borrowed Capital) with an intention of holding one for 1-2Yrs,then selling it off to develope the other.But now am thinking twice.What would you do if you were on my shoes?
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#4 Posted : Thursday, March 03, 2011 3:53:27 PM
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No one can tell when things may go haywire...however it would be unwise to project the same rate of infrasture improvement under Kibaki to continue at the same rate past 2012
young
#5 Posted : Friday, March 04, 2011 3:16:49 PM
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ngwono wrote:
@Young,thats a good analysis but on the other side,i think speculators are likely to sell off their land coz of the news of property bubble coming soon in Kenya and the prices are likely to drop.This has come at a time when i was in the eve of purchasing 2pieces of land in Kitengela(with borrowed Capital) with an intention of holding one for 1-2Yrs,then selling it off to develope the other.But now am thinking twice.What would you do if you were on my shoes?




@Ngwono.

(i) It is not advisable to buy plot on borrowed money as the land is not yielding anything while holding until you sale. House is better in this sense

(ii) I may not be right, I do not think Kitengela will soon face property bubble as it is not a high end property, it is an emerging suburb.


(iii) At this point in time if you want to invest on land on the long term, you can move further down beyond Kitengela as with time development will reach your chosen vicinity. If Kitengela plots for now for example is going for say Ksh 1 Million, 5 km away it will be circa 300k. In two years time it is easier for your 300K Kitengela suburb (5km away) will appreciate to 900K than the 1 Million Kitengela plot to be 1.8 Million. This is because Kitengela proper is almost fully priced as some years back the same plot going for 1 Million now was under 300K. This is the concept of penny land.


I may ask in Kenya don't you have an option of flexible payment terms (6 to 24 months) when buying plots from estate developers???

I have never paid outright for inventment plot, I always spread payment over several months to avoid borrowing and tying down limited capital. The beauty of it is that any price increase does not affect subscribers that have earlier commenced payment.

For example there is a plot that went for 600K (my local currency) payment spread over 24 months (interst free) at 25K per month in October 2009, For new subscribers the going price for a plot is 1.2 Million but it does not affect us the old subscribers.

I know this flexible payment plan exists here in Nigeria, Ghana and Uganda from my little experience in property investment.
The wazua spirit as members is to educate and inform and learn from others within the limit of what we know in any chosen area irrespective of our differences in tribes, nationalities, etc. .
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#6 Posted : Saturday, March 05, 2011 5:30:50 PM
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Brilliant article from young, not for the first time!
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#7 Posted : Monday, March 07, 2011 8:46:39 AM
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@ young , thats very good advice especially to new investors who always insist on " maji na stima na karibu na rami".........Applause
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#8 Posted : Monday, March 07, 2011 2:19:28 PM
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@Young,

Good advice for the umpteenth time.I'll say unfortunately,many land prospectors in Kenya look around Perri-urban areas thus narrowing their choices.Those who have gone out of their way to research on where new infrastructures are coming up even if it be in deep rural areas,have a different tale to tell.
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ngwono
#9 Posted : Monday, March 07, 2011 3:43:51 PM
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@Young,thanks a lot for the sound advice.Your opoints are well explained.
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#10 Posted : Monday, March 07, 2011 4:42:33 PM
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good advice n timely for me. am in the processes of buying my first (n hopefully of many to come) plot. went to see the teachers sacco plots @ ruiru bypass n am planning to start there
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#11 Posted : Monday, March 07, 2011 5:36:59 PM
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nice tips.
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#12 Posted : Tuesday, March 08, 2011 10:04:36 AM
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Very good tips, for some of us on the path!!!!
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#13 Posted : Tuesday, March 08, 2011 11:00:48 AM
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Sounds, deceptively, like common sense but which is not so common! How many of us who do not own plots have wondered and despared into low spirits as we see land prices in urban areas soaring by the week, and wondering how much we will have to pay when that ellusive capital finally lands in our accounts.

From this advise, you dont actually have to lose hope, infact your chances of a good return, as at that point of purchase are as good as those already in.
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#14 Posted : Tuesday, March 08, 2011 11:22:36 AM
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I have never paid outright for inventment plot, I always spread payment over several months to avoid borrowing and tying down limited capital. The beauty of it is that any price increase does not affect subscribers that have earlier commenced payment.

For example there is a plot that went for 600K (my local currency) payment spread over 24 months (interst free) at 25K per month in October 2009, For new subscribers the going price for a plot is 1.2 Million but it does not affect us the old subscribers.

I know this flexible payment plan exists here in Nigeria, Ghana and Uganda from my little experience in property investment.[/quote]

@young.The options of paying in instalments for properties do exist in Kenya.For example ,we (Land & Homes Co.) are currently selling plots located at the Ruiru bypass and Kitengela.We only require that a client pays 50% downpayment and the balance is spread over six months (no monthly payments) just timelines.i.e pay 25% by end of 3rd month and balance of 25% by end of sixth month.
We believe these terms are very accommodating for people who would otherwise not manage to own the same properties with cash terms.
for more info please check out http://www.fsbo.co.ke/in...on=details&ref_no=4
http://www.fsbo.co.ke/in...ion=details&ref_no=1
properties For Sale By Owner
kadonye
#15 Posted : Wednesday, March 09, 2011 12:22:15 PM
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Is it true that Ngong Road is earmarked for expansion? If true how far will the dual carriageway be?

That could mean there are opportunities those sides of Kiserian.Drool
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#16 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2011 9:45:28 AM
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Young this is good advice,Personally I always buy property and put a higher price for it not expecting to sell immediately but interesting enough i always sell it earlier than i expected.
For example i will buy the teachers plots when they are selling,immediately tell my friends i have a property am selling and add a margin usually they will buy.I will then keep on adjusting the price as price changes.
Right now the teachers have some plots along the Ruiru bypass;you can mail me githukusm@yahoo.com i connect you to them.
young
#17 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2011 10:45:17 AM
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GITHUKUSM wrote:
Young this is good advice,Personally I always buy property and put a higher price for it not expecting to sell immediately but interesting enough i always sell it earlier than i expected.
For example i will buy the teachers plots when they are selling,immediately tell my friends i have a property am selling and add a margin usually they will buy.I will then keep on adjusting the price as price changes.
Right now the teachers have some plots along the Ruiru bypass;you can mail me githukusm@yahoo.com i connect you to them.



Thanks @Githukusm unfortunately I reside in Nigeria and I do not have any interest now or in future to invest in Kenya real estate.
I only own a plot (1/8 Acre) in Kampala through Akright Projects www.akright.biz which they will build a vacation home for my family.

I am only contributing on general real estate investment ideas here, I made reference to Kenya suburbs since I am writing to mainly Kenya audience and am familiar with Nairobi city (not the suburbs).

Previously it was my plan to own a house in Nairobi but the price was very prohibitive so I had to take a look at Kampala.
It might interest you to know that the cost of the land in a planned estate located on prime Entebbe road was UGX12 Million which translates to Ksh 420K , 40% initial deposit, payment spread over 6 months. The cost of construction (by Akright) for 3 bedroom executive bungalow without servant quarters is Ugx105M this translates to Ksh 3.6M payment spread over 24 months, I plan to commence payment from next year by the grace of God.

All my investment plots are here in Nigeria and neighbouring Ghana for proximity reasons.


The wazua spirit as members is to educate and inform and learn from others within the limit of what we know in any chosen area irrespective of our differences in tribes, nationalities, etc. .
Fujo
#18 Posted : Thursday, March 17, 2011 4:47:14 AM
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@githuku sm please hit me up at mojofujo@yahoo.com. I am interested,
GITHUKUSM
#19 Posted : Thursday, March 24, 2011 12:37:01 PM
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@Fujo,catch up with more info on your mail.Should you get stuck just get back githukusm@yahoo.com.The teachers plots are now in the third phase.
GITHUKUSM
#20 Posted : Thursday, March 24, 2011 12:43:03 PM
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@Young,your advise runs across the board and especially for developing countries where new towns keep on coming up.
Sad to hear you have no intention of investing in Kenya.
Let me know,have we overpriced our property or is our property better than those in other countries.
Keep on posting your advice is timely.
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