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A few years back someone was building some apts rentals in White Hse area in Nakuru or near there and was sharing his/her journey, any chance you can update on your progress or if there someone who has recently done some rentals in Nakuru, would like to compare notes as I’m planning on a project there.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/15/2010 Posts: 455 Location: Nairobi
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Any developer in the house @Obiero, @Popat @A4 I recently checked with county physical planner for a building approval and what I received was far from my expectation. below is a breakdown of what I received. Built up area : 3000 m2 180k : Architectural fee @ 3000 x 60 Ksh/m2. 180k : Structural fee fee @ 3000 x 60 Ksh/m2. 1.5k : B.P.A form. 15k : Occupation cert @3k/fl. 10k : Site Board. 50k : Public Health 10k/fl. 60k : Inspection fee @ 12k/fl. 10k : Site visit. Total 506.5k !!!. are this figure genuine ama kuna mtu anataka kununua ploti na mimi? Na bado kuna. Arch & Structural engineer fee. Change of user fee. Nema fee. NCA fee. Eiish DC. It reminded me of Eric Wainaina song: Pay-As-You-Earn, Earn-As-You-Pay, Value-Added-Tax, Tax-Added-Value. ....He who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion..
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,262 Location: nairobi
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tinker wrote:Any developer in the house @Obiero, @Popat @A4
I recently checked with county physical planner for a building approval and what I received was
far from my expectation.
below is a breakdown of what I received.
Built up area : 3000 m2
180k : Architectural fee @ 3000 x 60 Ksh/m2.
180k : Structural fee fee @ 3000 x 60 Ksh/m2.
1.5k : B.P.A form.
15k : Occupation cert @3k/fl.
10k : Site Board.
50k : Public Health 10k/fl.
60k : Inspection fee @ 12k/fl.
10k : Site visit.
Total 506.5k !!!. are this figure genuine ama kuna mtu anataka kununua ploti na mimi?
Na bado kuna.
Arch & Structural engineer fee.
Change of user fee.
Nema fee.
NCA fee.
Eiish DC.
It reminded me of Eric Wainaina song: Pay-As-You-Earn, Earn-As-You-Pay, Value-Added-Tax, Tax-Added-Value. The architectural and structural fee are within scale but you can get many qualified architects and structural engineers that would go to about 100-120K per piece.. The public health and inspection fee combined should not exceed 35k unless your quote is inclusive of physical planners sign off. Site board has had no fee on any site I have worked on COOP, IMH, KQ, MTNU
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/18/2009 Posts: 175
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obiero wrote:tinker wrote:Any developer in the house @Obiero, @Popat @A4
I recently checked with county physical planner for a building approval and what I received was
far from my expectation.
below is a breakdown of what I received.
Built up area : 3000 m2
180k : Architectural fee @ 3000 x 60 Ksh/m2.
180k : Structural fee fee @ 3000 x 60 Ksh/m2.
1.5k : B.P.A form.
15k : Occupation cert @3k/fl.
10k : Site Board.
50k : Public Health 10k/fl.
60k : Inspection fee @ 12k/fl.
10k : Site visit.
Total 506.5k !!!. are this figure genuine ama kuna mtu anataka kununua ploti na mimi?
Na bado kuna.
Arch & Structural engineer fee.
Change of user fee.
Nema fee.
NCA fee.
Eiish DC.
It reminded me of Eric Wainaina song: Pay-As-You-Earn, Earn-As-You-Pay, Value-Added-Tax, Tax-Added-Value. The architectural and structural fee are within scale but you can get many qualified architects and structural engineers that would go to about 100-120K per piece.. The public health and inspection fee combined should not exceed 35k unless your quote is inclusive of physical planners sign off. Site board has had no fee on any site I have worked on I dont think you got the question the figures reflect quotation for approvals he got from a county office not charges for proffessional services breakdown as shown is common in most counties though the figures look a bit high but thats life we have in most counties after devolution Some you win some you lose
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/14/2006 Posts: 1,311
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tinker wrote:Any developer in the house @Obiero, @Popat @A4
I recently checked with county physical planner for a building approval and what I received was
far from my expectation.
below is a breakdown of what I received.
Built up area : 3000 m2
180k : Architectural fee @ 3000 x 60 Ksh/m2.
180k : Structural fee fee @ 3000 x 60 Ksh/m2.
1.5k : B.P.A form.
15k : Occupation cert @3k/fl.
10k : Site Board.
50k : Public Health 10k/fl.
60k : Inspection fee @ 12k/fl.
10k : Site visit.
Total 506.5k !!!. are this figure genuine ama kuna mtu anataka kununua ploti na mimi?
Na bado kuna.
Arch & Structural engineer fee.
Change of user fee.
Nema fee.
NCA fee.
Eiish DC.
It reminded me of Eric Wainaina song: Pay-As-You-Earn, Earn-As-You-Pay, Value-Added-Tax, Tax-Added-Value.
Are you sure you are building a 3000 square metres or 3000 square feet house? 3000 m2 feels like you are building a block of apartments in which case sh 500k cost of consultancy should be reasonable. 1 m2 = 10.76 sq ft.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,262 Location: nairobi
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Mtublack wrote:obiero wrote:tinker wrote:Any developer in the house @Obiero, @Popat @A4
I recently checked with county physical planner for a building approval and what I received was
far from my expectation.
below is a breakdown of what I received.
Built up area : 3000 m2
180k : Architectural fee @ 3000 x 60 Ksh/m2.
180k : Structural fee fee @ 3000 x 60 Ksh/m2.
1.5k : B.P.A form.
15k : Occupation cert @3k/fl.
10k : Site Board.
50k : Public Health 10k/fl.
60k : Inspection fee @ 12k/fl.
10k : Site visit.
Total 506.5k !!!. are this figure genuine ama kuna mtu anataka kununua ploti na mimi?
Na bado kuna.
Arch & Structural engineer fee.
Change of user fee.
Nema fee.
NCA fee.
Eiish DC.
It reminded me of Eric Wainaina song: Pay-As-You-Earn, Earn-As-You-Pay, Value-Added-Tax, Tax-Added-Value. The architectural and structural fee are within scale but you can get many qualified architects and structural engineers that would go to about 100-120K per piece.. The public health and inspection fee combined should not exceed 35k unless your quote is inclusive of physical planners sign off. Site board has had no fee on any site I have worked on I dont think you got the question the figures reflect quotation for approvals he got from a county office not charges for proffessional services breakdown as shown is common in most counties though the figures look a bit high but thats life we have in most counties after devolution At Kakamega, Kisii and Kisumu counties there's no architectural nor structural fees COOP, IMH, KQ, MTNU
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/15/2010 Posts: 455 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:Mtublack wrote:obiero wrote:tinker wrote:Any developer in the house @Obiero, @Popat @A4
I recently checked with county physical planner for a building approval and what I received was
far from my expectation.
below is a breakdown of what I received.
Built up area : 3000 m2
180k : Architectural fee @ 3000 x 60 Ksh/m2.
180k : Structural fee fee @ 3000 x 60 Ksh/m2.
1.5k : B.P.A form.
15k : Occupation cert @3k/fl.
10k : Site Board.
50k : Public Health 10k/fl.
60k : Inspection fee @ 12k/fl.
10k : Site visit.
Total 506.5k !!!. are this figure genuine ama kuna mtu anataka kununua ploti na mimi?
Na bado kuna.
Arch & Structural engineer fee.
Change of user fee.
Nema fee.
NCA fee.
Eiish DC.
It reminded me of Eric Wainaina song: Pay-As-You-Earn, Earn-As-You-Pay, Value-Added-Tax, Tax-Added-Value. The architectural and structural fee are within scale but you can get many qualified architects and structural engineers that would go to about 100-120K per piece.. The public health and inspection fee combined should not exceed 35k unless your quote is inclusive of physical planners sign off. Site board has had no fee on any site I have worked on I dont think you got the question the figures reflect quotation for approvals he got from a county office not charges for proffessional services breakdown as shown is common in most counties though the figures look a bit high but thats life we have in most counties after devolution At Kakamega, Kisii and Kisumu counties there's no architectural nor structural fees @MtuBlack, you are correct, the quotation is County Govt approval fee - breakdown. It does not include Architect and Structural Engineer professional fees which I have already negotiated separately. I'd have wrote, 180k for Architectural drawing inspection fee and another 180k for Structural drawing inspection fee @ county govt office[DC]. Its 3000 M2 apartments. ....He who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion..
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/26/2008 Posts: 380
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Kahuna wrote:Mkimwa wrote:Kahuna wrote:Greetings fellow wazuans
I need help from the experts amongst us and or people with knowledge on the construction costs.
I have an 1/8th plot in Ongata Rongai and want to construct rentals With 4m to spend and just wondering how many floors of bedsitters I can do with basic finishes.
Ground floor only. Assuming you do a slab. Foundations are expensive to lay, depending on the type of soil. Unazika pesa. Thanks Mkimwa. My plot has very little cotton. The soil there is almost red actually. Indeed I think the foundation might cost me abit because I want to build for the future in the sense that I want to do a foundation that will also be suitable for future construction of a much bigger structure. Have an idea how many bedsitters of standard size (whatever that size is) I can do ? There is no standard size of bedsitter. Some can be 150sqft, others can be 200sqft. On an 1/8th, you can do upto 20bedsitters depending on the orientation of the land. The size of the bedsitters would be acceptable. Red soil is better. I was involved in a project of 20 basic bedsitters in 1/8 of land, and the total construction cost was about 4.5m, but these had no structural provision for storied facilities (now or later) - hence no collumns. Again, they were basic finishes, so no parking facilities etc.. bare basic necessities.
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/9/2010 Posts: 320 Location: kenya
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Mkimwa wrote:Kahuna wrote:Mkimwa wrote:Kahuna wrote:Greetings fellow wazuans
I need help from the experts amongst us and or people with knowledge on the construction costs.
I have an 1/8th plot in Ongata Rongai and want to construct rentals With 4m to spend and just wondering how many floors of bedsitters I can do with basic finishes.
Ground floor only. Assuming you do a slab. Foundations are expensive to lay, depending on the type of soil. Unazika pesa. Thanks Mkimwa. My plot has very little cotton. The soil there is almost red actually. Indeed I think the foundation might cost me abit because I want to build for the future in the sense that I want to do a foundation that will also be suitable for future construction of a much bigger structure. Have an idea how many bedsitters of standard size (whatever that size is) I can do ? There is no standard size of bedsitter. Some can be 150sqft, others can be 200sqft. On an 1/8th, you can do upto 20bedsitters depending on the orientation of the land. The size of the bedsitters would be acceptable. Red soil is better. I was involved in a project of 20 basic bedsitters in 1/8 of land, and the total construction cost was about 4.5m, but these had no structural provision for storied facilities (now or later) - hence no collumns. Again, they were basic finishes, so no parking facilities etc.. bare basic necessities. I did some 20 rooms with less than 2m. Non storeys. Work hard at your job and you can make a living. Work hard on yourself and you can make a fortune.
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/14/2014 Posts: 289 Location: nairobi
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My Kid brother has a small 1/8 th acre Furoti In Kiambu county.He would like to build a simple temporary structure to occupy as he sources for funds to build a permanent house in future. He would like a professional to do a basic plan for the plot for now, like where to position the gate, where to dig the sewerage pit,where the house will sit. With the basics done, he can engage an architect later to do the finer details. My question (i) who is the right professional to enagage for the basic plan (ii) Estimate of cost. Thank You I find satisfaction in owning great business,not trading them
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