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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,349 Location: Nairobi
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sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:It is not a significant development per se. Fastjet entry into Kenya. KQ has a competitive advantage due to inbound customers from Europe, America and Asia. Any local carrier without such traffic cannot pose a threat to KQ. What about Jambo jet Jambojet is KQ and KQ is Jambojet. All these other local airlines just exist for capacity leftovers.. KQ various local daily flights are +30 in number!!! +30 flights to local destinations for KQ&Jambojet which represents over 70% of the marketshare. Some of these new guys are doing only 2-3 scheduled flights per day and with the current KES 2,200 offer by JJ, I would not be shocked if Fly540, Air Kenya, Silverstone et al quit the market So is JJ doing 2,200/- just to undercut the rest? It's a pity coz the rest of the taxpaying firms do NOT have GoK bailout money! @vvs here you miss the point. close to half of the people who bought the KES 2,200 offer seats will not travel! they only bought the tickets just because they were cheap but leave will be denied, funds to accompany the travel shall not be located etc.. its simply excellent marketing.. the company shall keep selling ordinary tickets and only avail the offer seats, if space is available! terms and conditions apply JJ are competing with SGR Both loss-making GoK (controlled, owned or significantly influenced) entities. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,349 Location: Nairobi
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“We have seen an increase in the number of carriers that are coming into play. For instance, Air France is already here, Air India is coming and Qatar Airways is introducing a flight to Mombasa very soon. https://www.businessdail...0458-15debsm/index.html
Doesn't Ethiopian and Rwandair also serve Mombasa directly? Now Mombasa folks will be able to fly to Doha then connect directly to multiple Asian, European and American destinations. Qatar: Mombasa to New York = MBA-DOH-NYC KQ: Mombasa to NYC = MBA-NBO-AMS/CDG/LHR-NYC Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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VyaBureSiachi wrote:sparkly wrote:A company that has more posts on Wazua than profits it has made for shareholders in the last 5 years. KQ has made me some cash since last year. I have benefited from the up and down swing of the share. I bought some at ksh.12.5 then sold them at ksh.15 some months back and just last week I disposed of some that I had bought at ksh.10 at ksh.12.8. I will wait for the share to hit ksh. 10 then I jump in again. There's no other way to repay our losses from the consolidation. You have made money through your efforts. KQ has not made you any money. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,220 Location: nairobi
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sparkly wrote:VyaBureSiachi wrote:sparkly wrote:A company that has more posts on Wazua than profits it has made for shareholders in the last 5 years. KQ has made me some cash since last year. I have benefited from the up and down swing of the share. I bought some at ksh.12.5 then sold them at ksh.15 some months back and just last week I disposed of some that I had bought at ksh.10 at ksh.12.8. I will wait for the share to hit ksh. 10 then I jump in again. There's no other way to repay our losses from the consolidation. You have made money through your efforts. KQ has not made you any money. Point to note is that money has been made, whichever way :)
KQ ABP 4.26
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,349 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:VyaBureSiachi wrote:sparkly wrote:A company that has more posts on Wazua than profits it has made for shareholders in the last 5 years. KQ has made me some cash since last year. I have benefited from the up and down swing of the share. I bought some at ksh.12.5 then sold them at ksh.15 some months back and just last week I disposed of some that I had bought at ksh.10 at ksh.12.8. I will wait for the share to hit ksh. 10 then I jump in again. There's no other way to repay our losses from the consolidation. You have made money through your efforts. KQ has not made you any money. Point to note is that money has been made, whichever way :) According to Warren Buffett's principles, there is no net gain i.e. KQ has impoverished its shareholders since 2012 regardless of the share price or some gains made by some shareholders from "trading"... I am so glad I bailed out of KQ at 13-14 (52-56 post consolidation)... Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,220 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:VyaBureSiachi wrote:sparkly wrote:A company that has more posts on Wazua than profits it has made for shareholders in the last 5 years. KQ has made me some cash since last year. I have benefited from the up and down swing of the share. I bought some at ksh.12.5 then sold them at ksh.15 some months back and just last week I disposed of some that I had bought at ksh.10 at ksh.12.8. I will wait for the share to hit ksh. 10 then I jump in again. There's no other way to repay our losses from the consolidation. You have made money through your efforts. KQ has not made you any money. Point to note is that money has been made, whichever way :) According to Warren Buffett's principles, there is no net gain i.e. KQ has impoverished its shareholders since 2012 regardless of the share price or some gains made by some shareholders from "trading"... I am so glad I bailed out of KQ at 13-14 (52-56 post consolidation)... @vyaburesiachi has made money.. why are we gloomy about someone gaining from the market
KQ ABP 4.26
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,808 Location: NAIROBI
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obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:VyaBureSiachi wrote:sparkly wrote:A company that has more posts on Wazua than profits it has made for shareholders in the last 5 years. KQ has made me some cash since last year. I have benefited from the up and down swing of the share. I bought some at ksh.12.5 then sold them at ksh.15 some months back and just last week I disposed of some that I had bought at ksh.10 at ksh.12.8. I will wait for the share to hit ksh. 10 then I jump in again. There's no other way to repay our losses from the consolidation. You have made money through your efforts. KQ has not made you any money. Point to note is that money has been made, whichever way :) According to Warren Buffett's principles, there is no net gain i.e. KQ has impoverished its shareholders since 2012 regardless of the share price or some gains made by some shareholders from "trading"... I am so glad I bailed out of KQ at 13-14 (52-56 post consolidation)... @vyaburesiachi has made money.. why are we gloomy about someone gaining from the market @obiero vvs doesn't believe in speculation of buying low and selling high. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,349 Location: Nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:VyaBureSiachi wrote:sparkly wrote:A company that has more posts on Wazua than profits it has made for shareholders in the last 5 years. KQ has made me some cash since last year. I have benefited from the up and down swing of the share. I bought some at ksh.12.5 then sold them at ksh.15 some months back and just last week I disposed of some that I had bought at ksh.10 at ksh.12.8. I will wait for the share to hit ksh. 10 then I jump in again. There's no other way to repay our losses from the consolidation. You have made money through your efforts. KQ has not made you any money. Point to note is that money has been made, whichever way :) According to Warren Buffett's principles, there is no net gain i.e. KQ has impoverished its shareholders since 2012 regardless of the share price or some gains made by some shareholders from "trading"... I am so glad I bailed out of KQ at 13-14 (52-56 post consolidation)... @vyaburesiachi has made money.. why are we gloomy about someone gaining from the market @obiero vvs doesn't believe in speculation of buying low and selling high. I know it's a difficult concept for many to understand but I will try to explain it again. The intrinsic value of a firm is not always reflected in the share price. There's a chap called Warren Buffett. You may not have heard of him. That's OK but I will quote him. Buffett follows the Benjamin Graham school of value investing. Value investors look for securities with prices that are unjustifiably low based on their intrinsic worth.
Buffett, however, isn't concerned with the supply and demand intricacies of the stock market. In fact, he's not really concerned with the activities of the stock market at all. This is the implication in this paraphrase of his famous quote: "In the short term the market is a popularity contest; in the long term it is a weighing machine."Read more: Warren Buffett: How He Does It https://www.investopedia...71801.asp#ixzz5DTzQlSrM Buffett: "When it's raining gold, put out the bucket not the thimble." Finally: Don't be a day traderAccording to Buffett, the secret to getting a better return on investment is to buy a stock and forget about it. He believes in having a buy-and-hold mentality and insists on holding stocks for decades. There are two principles behind this: (1) if you buy a stock for less than it's true worth, the stock's price will eventually converge with it's intrinsic value; and (2) if you buy a wonderful business, the value of that business will compound and increase exponentially the longer you hold on to it. So, the patient investor will ultimately be rewarded if they hold on to their stocks for a longer time. For Buffett, time is the friend of a wonderful business. "If you aren't willing to own a stock for 10 years, don't even think about owning it for ten minutes."
He says that if you constantly buy and sell stocks, it'll take away a significant percentage of your returns in the form of trading commissions and taxes. So, it's better to buy great stocks and holding them for a long time.Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,808 Location: NAIROBI
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VituVingiSana wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:VyaBureSiachi wrote:sparkly wrote:A company that has more posts on Wazua than profits it has made for shareholders in the last 5 years. KQ has made me some cash since last year. I have benefited from the up and down swing of the share. I bought some at ksh.12.5 then sold them at ksh.15 some months back and just last week I disposed of some that I had bought at ksh.10 at ksh.12.8. I will wait for the share to hit ksh. 10 then I jump in again. There's no other way to repay our losses from the consolidation. You have made money through your efforts. KQ has not made you any money. Point to note is that money has been made, whichever way :) According to Warren Buffett's principles, there is no net gain i.e. KQ has impoverished its shareholders since 2012 regardless of the share price or some gains made by some shareholders from "trading"... I am so glad I bailed out of KQ at 13-14 (52-56 post consolidation)... @vyaburesiachi has made money.. why are we gloomy about someone gaining from the market @obiero vvs doesn't believe in speculation of buying low and selling high. I know it's a difficult concept for many to understand but I will try to explain it again. The intrinsic value of a firm is not always reflected in the share price. There's a chap called Warren Buffett. You may not have heard of him. That's OK but I will quote him. Buffett follows the Benjamin Graham school of value investing. Value investors look for securities with prices that are unjustifiably low based on their intrinsic worth.
Buffett, however, isn't concerned with the supply and demand intricacies of the stock market. In fact, he's not really concerned with the activities of the stock market at all. This is the implication in this paraphrase of his famous quote: "In the short term the market is a popularity contest; in the long term it is a weighing machine."Read more: Warren Buffett: How He Does It https://www.investopedia...71801.asp#ixzz5DTzQlSrM Buffett: "When it's raining gold, put out the bucket not the thimble." Finally: Don't be a day traderAccording to Buffett, the secret to getting a better return on investment is to buy a stock and forget about it. He believes in having a buy-and-hold mentality and insists on holding stocks for decades. There are two principles behind this: (1) if you buy a stock for less than it's true worth, the stock's price will eventually converge with it's intrinsic value; and (2) if you buy a wonderful business, the value of that business will compound and increase exponentially the longer you hold on to it. So, the patient investor will ultimately be rewarded if they hold on to their stocks for a longer time. For Buffett, time is the friend of a wonderful business. "If you aren't willing to own a stock for 10 years, don't even think about owning it for ten minutes."
He says that if you constantly buy and sell stocks, it'll take away a significant percentage of your returns in the form of trading commissions and taxes. So, it's better to buy great stocks and holding them for a long time. @Obiero Any comment on the above Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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Ericsson wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:VyaBureSiachi wrote:sparkly wrote:A company that has more posts on Wazua than profits it has made for shareholders in the last 5 years. KQ has made me some cash since last year. I have benefited from the up and down swing of the share. I bought some at ksh.12.5 then sold them at ksh.15 some months back and just last week I disposed of some that I had bought at ksh.10 at ksh.12.8. I will wait for the share to hit ksh. 10 then I jump in again. There's no other way to repay our losses from the consolidation. You have made money through your efforts. KQ has not made you any money. Point to note is that money has been made, whichever way :) According to Warren Buffett's principles, there is no net gain i.e. KQ has impoverished its shareholders since 2012 regardless of the share price or some gains made by some shareholders from "trading"... I am so glad I bailed out of KQ at 13-14 (52-56 post consolidation)... @vyaburesiachi has made money.. why are we gloomy about someone gaining from the market @obiero vvs doesn't believe in speculation of buying low and selling high. I know it's a difficult concept for many to understand but I will try to explain it again. The intrinsic value of a firm is not always reflected in the share price. There's a chap called Warren Buffett. You may not have heard of him. That's OK but I will quote him. Buffett follows the Benjamin Graham school of value investing. Value investors look for securities with prices that are unjustifiably low based on their intrinsic worth.
Buffett, however, isn't concerned with the supply and demand intricacies of the stock market. In fact, he's not really concerned with the activities of the stock market at all. This is the implication in this paraphrase of his famous quote: "In the short term the market is a popularity contest; in the long term it is a weighing machine."Read more: Warren Buffett: How He Does It https://www.investopedia...71801.asp#ixzz5DTzQlSrM Buffett: "When it's raining gold, put out the bucket not the thimble." Finally: Don't be a day traderAccording to Buffett, the secret to getting a better return on investment is to buy a stock and forget about it. He believes in having a buy-and-hold mentality and insists on holding stocks for decades. There are two principles behind this: (1) if you buy a stock for less than it's true worth, the stock's price will eventually converge with it's intrinsic value; and (2) if you buy a wonderful business, the value of that business will compound and increase exponentially the longer you hold on to it. So, the patient investor will ultimately be rewarded if they hold on to their stocks for a longer time. For Buffett, time is the friend of a wonderful business. "If you aren't willing to own a stock for 10 years, don't even think about owning it for ten minutes."
He says that if you constantly buy and sell stocks, it'll take away a significant percentage of your returns in the form of trading commissions and taxes. So, it's better to buy great stocks and holding them for a long time. @Obiero Any comment on the above Obiero is married to KQ. He cant see, cant hear any wrong Life is short. Live passionately.
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