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githundi
#1881 Posted : Wednesday, February 05, 2014 11:48:16 AM
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TAZ wrote:
@Githundi.....I think its a bit ridiculous for you to claim that Man Utd and Chelsea play the same kind of football. Mourinho's style of play has always been the same especially against the big boys, park the bus and try to score on the counter. At the Etihad his squad was set up to do exactly that against City's attacking players but Demichilis gave Matic too much space and time to penetrate and distribute the ball to Hazard and Ramirez. Earlier this season when Chelsea lost against Everton and Basel (their worst league start in 10 years) Mourinho indicated that his side's poor form is because he was trying to improve their style of play.....when he realized it wasn't working he went back to what he knows best. I have not criticized Mourinho's style of play all i'm saying is that it hasn't changed. Anyway we'll have another chance to evaluate Chelsea's performance against City (FA Cup).

@ TAZ, we agree to disagree.
As you say, time will tell.
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mwenza
#1882 Posted : Wednesday, February 05, 2014 12:02:41 PM
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2012 wrote:
freiks wrote:
Arsenal will have a difficult february and early march, but what about after that during the final stretch? They will have good matches and they will just need to win all of them and hoping the other big teams (mancity and chelsea) lose points



Arsenal has Liverpool away this weekend and Man-u at home the weekend after then Bayern the Wednesday after. Now, that's not gonna be easy but I think they can do it.
The thing I can almost bet on is, Moyes losing to Man-u's lifetime bitter-sweet rival Arsenal on 12th is like firing himself.


Aseno play Man U in midweek not on weekend. Forget about the rivalry between Man U and aseno fans in kenya, Man U's traditional bitter rivals have always been Liverpool not aseno or even city.
IF YOU EXPECT ME TO POST ANYTHING POSITIVE ABOUT ASENO, YOU MAY AS WELL SIT ON A PIN
kivairu
#1883 Posted : Wednesday, February 05, 2014 12:26:22 PM
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mwenza wrote:
2012 wrote:
freiks wrote:
Arsenal will have a difficult february and early march, but what about after that during the final stretch? They will have good matches and they will just need to win all of them and hoping the other big teams (mancity and chelsea) lose points



Arsenal has Liverpool away this weekend and Man-u at home the weekend after then Bayern the Wednesday after. Now, that's not gonna be easy but I think they can do it.
The thing I can almost bet on is, Moyes losing to Man-u's lifetime bitter-sweet rival Arsenal on 12th is like firing himself.


Aseno play Man U in midweek not on weekend. Forget about the rivalry between Man U and aseno fans in kenya, Man U's traditional bitter rivals have always been Liverpool not aseno or even city.


5cheers Mwenza for knowing something about football. You've thought like 5 sages. Guys who started watching football yesterday want to distort history!

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kivairu
#1884 Posted : Wednesday, February 05, 2014 12:31:38 PM
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githundi wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
@ Githundi Chelsea have been playing counter attacking football for ages. Mourinho has always preferred big players and physical players incl Essien, Drogba,Ibrahamovic, Quaresma etc. No wonder he likes Rooney. Nothing has changed. One win should not make us forget that Mourinho brought the concept of parking the bus to BPL.

Not really, Mourhino first stint, defensive football what is being called parking the bus.
The second stint counter attacking football, just like manu.
Currently many teams have are into attacking football, starting from arsenal, man City, Liverpool, Swansea, Everton, Newcastle, Aston villa......





Its never been Mourinho's idea to play beautiful football.Real Madrid forced him to learn to play beautiful football.That's why he has been branded' Not a friend of football' all these time.He could no longer get the concept of beautiful football at Real Madrid. That partly why he opted out. He can try to learn it at chelsea....seems its sinking in for once!

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KulaRaha
#1885 Posted : Wednesday, February 05, 2014 12:38:02 PM
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As a man, would you like a beautiful yet barren wife, or one who is not so beautiful but gives you many healthy strong children?

I know what I'd like....
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kaka2za
#1886 Posted : Wednesday, February 05, 2014 2:52:27 PM
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@KulaRaha Definately the beautiful one! You can then get children with mipango ya kando.
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
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2012
#1887 Posted : Wednesday, February 05, 2014 3:02:39 PM
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mwenza wrote:
Aseno play Man U in midweek not on weekend. Forget about the rivalry between Man U and aseno fans in kenya, Man U's traditional bitter rivals have always been Liverpool not aseno or even city.


We're talking current not traditional.
At the current position man-u is on the table, I understand why they've gone back to their 'traditional' rival smile

BBI will solve it
:)
mwenza
#1888 Posted : Wednesday, February 05, 2014 3:08:21 PM
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2012 wrote:
mwenza wrote:
Aseno play Man U in midweek not on weekend. Forget about the rivalry between Man U and aseno fans in kenya, Man U's traditional bitter rivals have always been Liverpool not aseno or even city.


We're talking current not traditional.
At the current position man-u is on the table, I understand why they've gone back to their 'traditional' rival smile


Kweli kizungu kilikuja na meli.

Traditional bitter rivalry has got absolutely nothing to do with current positions on the log. In case you don't know, aseno traditional bitter rivals are Spurs, and these has got nothing to do with the clubs league positions at any one time.

Why do people like embarrassing themselves in public forums?
IF YOU EXPECT ME TO POST ANYTHING POSITIVE ABOUT ASENO, YOU MAY AS WELL SIT ON A PIN
2012
#1889 Posted : Wednesday, February 05, 2014 3:14:36 PM
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mwenza wrote:
2012 wrote:
mwenza wrote:
Aseno play Man U in midweek not on weekend. Forget about the rivalry between Man U and aseno fans in kenya, Man U's traditional bitter rivals have always been Liverpool not aseno or even city.


We're talking current not traditional.
At the current position man-u is on the table, I understand why they've gone back to their 'traditional' rival smile


Kweli kizungu kilikuja na meli.

Why do people like embarrassing themselves in public forums?


Because they can?

BBI will solve it
:)
KulaRaha
#1890 Posted : Wednesday, February 05, 2014 3:21:26 PM
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kaka2za wrote:
@KulaRaha Definately the beautiful one! You can then get children with mipango ya kando.


So you'd have an ugly kando?

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McReggae
#1891 Posted : Wednesday, February 05, 2014 3:22:18 PM
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mwenza wrote:
2012 wrote:
mwenza wrote:
Aseno play Man U in midweek not on weekend. Forget about the rivalry between Man U and aseno fans in kenya, Man U's traditional bitter rivals have always been Liverpool not aseno or even city.


We're talking current not traditional.
At the current position man-u is on the table, I understand why they've gone back to their 'traditional' rival smile


Kweli kizungu kilikuja na meli.

Traditional bitter rivalry has got absolutely nothing to do with current positions on the log. In case you don't know, aseno traditional bitter rivals are Spurs, and these has got nothing to do with the clubs league positions at any one time.

Why do people like embarrassing themselves in public forums?


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Achana naye, dude talked of "Man-u's lifetime bitter-sweet rival Arsenal" and now he wants to chew his words eti 'current rivals'...NKT!!!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
kaka2za
#1892 Posted : Wednesday, February 05, 2014 5:17:51 PM
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Traditional rivalry has little to do with recent trends. Utd vs Scousers, Arsenal vs Spuds, Newcastle vs Sunderland etc all go back several decades ago. In fact Arsenal vs utd is limited to title chase only.
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
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McReggae
#1893 Posted : Wednesday, February 05, 2014 6:10:02 PM
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kaka2za wrote:
Traditional rivalry has little to do with recent trends. Utd vs Scousers, Arsenal vs Spuds, Newcastle vs Sunderland etc all go back several decades ago. In fact Arsenal vs utd is limited to title chase only.


.....and Kenyan johnny come lately fans like the one above!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
Ric dees
#1894 Posted : Wednesday, February 05, 2014 7:29:11 PM
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The Genius that is Jose..

@Taz.. We clearly watched different games if you thought Mourinho set up chelsea to defend (pack the bus). His set up was what is called "Higher Pressure Triangle" the three man midfield, Matic and Luiz were to deal with Yaya and Fernadinho and Ramirez was to support both defence and attack whichever way it suited and this worked tremendously. Games are won from the mid-field and one of the reasons Matic was bought is he influnces games (meaning he can pass forward and shoot) and most importantly he is a box to box DM meaning he can sit infront of the back four alone like Claude Makelele used to do, nowadays we see teams employing to DM's. Mikel always passed sideways/backwards hence does not influence the game and Lampard is on his last legs. Willian played the no 10 role because of his energy and strength hence why Oscar was benched.

What was interesting to see (from the vantage position we were at the Etihad) was how quickly thy got into a defensive shape when they lost the ball and Willian was the catalyst to attack. (Meaning retrieve the ball, Pass it to Willian, both Hazard and Ramirez run on the wings and Etoo center (how i wish we had a proper no 9 who can shield the ball) this would have been a different scenario. Mourinho defenitely wants to win the title (though he wont admit it) however the team is been set up for the CL onslaught.

Guess we have run out of superlatives to describe Moyes and the fact of the matter is he is just not cut for the big league, the sooner Man U suits relaise this the better it will be for them.

Wenger has given the word frugality a whole new meaning and i see them there or there about, where they have always been. Will they win the title? I dont think so purely by the size of the squad.

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gregory
#1895 Posted : Friday, February 07, 2014 7:29:24 AM
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Captain Vidic set to leave

hii team yangu needs serious rebuilding this summer. Evra and Rio should also leave
smano
#1896 Posted : Friday, February 07, 2014 8:25:34 AM
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gregory wrote:
Captain Vidic set to leave

hii team yangu needs serious rebuilding this summer. Evra and Rio should also leave


2, 3 years ago this would have seemed an absurd thing to contemplate but the truth is after the cruciate knee ligament damage against Basel the man has not been himself....there was a time his partnership with Rio was unmatched!

So it is surreal that I feel nothing to hear the three musketeers will most likely/definitely be leaving in the summer.

For me my biggest worry is Rooney. No CL football and he'll definitely leave, and Chelsea will definitely be in the mix, hopefully Madrid and PSG will invite a bidding war if/when the time comes - cannot imagine Rooney joining ChelseaSad
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gregory
#1897 Posted : Friday, February 07, 2014 8:43:30 AM
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smano wrote:
gregory wrote:
Captain Vidic set to leave

hii team yangu needs serious rebuilding this summer. Evra and Rio should also leave


2, 3 years ago this would have seemed an absurd thing to contemplate but the truth is after the cruciate knee ligament damage against Basel the man has not been himself....there was a time his partnership with Rio was unmatched!

So it is surreal that I feel nothing to hear the three musketeers will most likely/definitely be leaving in the summer.

For me my biggest worry is Rooney. No CL football and he'll definitely leave, and Chelsea will definitely be in the mix, hopefully Madrid and PSG will invite a bidding war if/when the time comes - cannot imagine Rooney joining ChelseaSad


I think rooney will stay. but am still not convinced with moyes even if you give him all the players he needs
KulaRaha
#1898 Posted : Friday, February 07, 2014 8:59:53 AM
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gregory wrote:
smano wrote:
gregory wrote:
Captain Vidic set to leave

hii team yangu needs serious rebuilding this summer. Evra and Rio should also leave


2, 3 years ago this would have seemed an absurd thing to contemplate but the truth is after the cruciate knee ligament damage against Basel the man has not been himself....there was a time his partnership with Rio was unmatched!

So it is surreal that I feel nothing to hear the three musketeers will most likely/definitely be leaving in the summer.

For me my biggest worry is Rooney. No CL football and he'll definitely leave, and Chelsea will definitely be in the mix, hopefully Madrid and PSG will invite a bidding war if/when the time comes - cannot imagine Rooney joining ChelseaSad


I think rooney will stay. but am still not convinced with moyes even if you give him all the players he needs


So Rooney, who has like a year left in his contract, is 29, will stay with a Team that isn't playing Champions League? Pls tell me why?
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TAZ
#1899 Posted : Friday, February 07, 2014 9:40:07 AM
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http://www.dailymail.co....influence-referees.html

Another reason why Moyes might not be the problem at Man Utd. smile
gregory
#1900 Posted : Friday, February 07, 2014 9:56:29 AM
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KulaRaha wrote:
gregory wrote:
smano wrote:
gregory wrote:
Captain Vidic set to leave

hii team yangu needs serious rebuilding this summer. Evra and Rio should also leave


2, 3 years ago this would have seemed an absurd thing to contemplate but the truth is after the cruciate knee ligament damage against Basel the man has not been himself....there was a time his partnership with Rio was unmatched!

So it is surreal that I feel nothing to hear the three musketeers will most likely/definitely be leaving in the summer.

For me my biggest worry is Rooney. No CL football and he'll definitely leave, and Chelsea will definitely be in the mix, hopefully Madrid and PSG will invite a bidding war if/when the time comes - cannot imagine Rooney joining ChelseaSad


I think rooney will stay. but am still not convinced with moyes even if you give him all the players he needs


So Rooney, who has like a year left in his contract, is 29, will stay with a Team that isn't playing Champions League? Pls tell me why?


contract negotiations are already underway. wht would he negotiate yet he wants to leave?
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