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quicksand wrote:Amores wrote:safariant wrote:ngapat wrote:Maraga trying to put himself in history book as the first judge in Africa to nullyfy a presidential election. He has fallen in Nasa's trap.
Maraga is not that smart after all There will be a ripple effect He was not the only one,majority of the judges were of the Opinion that the irregularities affected the outcome of the election,so it is not his decision only. However,I agree with the opinions of the two dissenting judges,the will of the people was expressed and no evidence was presented to warrant over turning that will. I have conflicting feelings about this ...on the one hand, we can't allow complacency in institutions and IEBC and anyone who might have a hand or think of inducing them into irregularity gets a slap in the face... on the other hand its going to be an economic blood bath. Either way, I am hoping two things happen: 1 - An election that is above board - beyond reproach 2 - RAO gets handed a defeat which as a result of (1) leaves him no excuses and no recourse other than to retire permanently from politics. I don't think he necessarily needs to retire,but to for once accept that he lost,and if he wants to run again,it is his right. On an election that is above board,I think that's a mirage.There will be flaws,the question is how those flaws affect the will of the people. Remember Hillary had a recount in some states,for example, winconsin gave her a paltry 61 more votes,where Trump won the state by more than 20000 votes. I am happy
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Bykhovets wrote:ngapat wrote:Its so unfortunate in kenya that even the supreme court judges along tribal lines. Only judge ojwang proved otherwise I am very disappointed in you if all that you took away from this judicial process were the tribes of the judges.  The judges conveniently avoided section 83 of the constitution and fell for " a chance for the supreme court to redeem itself shenanigan". No one disputed that the figures announced at the polling stations were different from the ones used to arrive at the final results. The elections clearly depicts the will of the people. “Invest in yourself. Your career is the engine of your wealth.”
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Amores wrote:quicksand wrote:Amores wrote:safariant wrote:ngapat wrote:Maraga trying to put himself in history book as the first judge in Africa to nullyfy a presidential election. He has fallen in Nasa's trap.
Maraga is not that smart after all There will be a ripple effect He was not the only one,majority of the judges were of the Opinion that the irregularities affected the outcome of the election,so it is not his decision only. However,I agree with the opinions of the two dissenting judges,the will of the people was expressed and no evidence was presented to warrant over turning that will. I have conflicting feelings about this ...on the one hand, we can't allow complacency in institutions and IEBC and anyone who might have a hand or think of inducing them into irregularity gets a slap in the face... on the other hand its going to be an economic blood bath. Either way, I am hoping two things happen: 1 - An election that is above board - beyond reproach 2 - RAO gets handed a defeat which as a result of (1) leaves him no excuses and no recourse other than to retire permanently from politics. I don't think he necessarily needs to retire,but to for once accept that he lost,and if he wants to run again,it is his right. On an election that is above board,I think that's a mirage.There will be flaws,the question is how those flaws affect the will of the people. Remember Hillary had a recount in some states,for example, winconsin gave her a paltry 61 more votes,where Trump won the state by more than 20000 votes. raila will not accept any election as fair where he isn't declared the president hata akipoteza by 10 million votes and its overseen by the gods with oburu odinga as iebc chairman. hapo usitarajie. Katika Jangwa la Jangili ndipo Pwagu hupata Pwaguzi.
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Jangwa la Jangili wrote:Amores wrote:quicksand wrote:Amores wrote:safariant wrote:ngapat wrote:Maraga trying to put himself in history book as the first judge in Africa to nullyfy a presidential election. He has fallen in Nasa's trap.
Maraga is not that smart after all There will be a ripple effect He was not the only one,majority of the judges were of the Opinion that the irregularities affected the outcome of the election,so it is not his decision only. However,I agree with the opinions of the two dissenting judges,the will of the people was expressed and no evidence was presented to warrant over turning that will. I have conflicting feelings about this ...on the one hand, we can't allow complacency in institutions and IEBC and anyone who might have a hand or think of inducing them into irregularity gets a slap in the face... on the other hand its going to be an economic blood bath. Either way, I am hoping two things happen: 1 - An election that is above board - beyond reproach 2 - RAO gets handed a defeat which as a result of (1) leaves him no excuses and no recourse other than to retire permanently from politics. I don't think he necessarily needs to retire,but to for once accept that he lost,and if he wants to run again,it is his right. On an election that is above board,I think that's a mirage.There will be flaws,the question is how those flaws affect the will of the people. Remember Hillary had a recount in some states,for example, winconsin gave her a paltry 61 more votes,where Trump won the state by more than 20000 votes. raila will not accept any election as fair where he isn't declared the president hata akipoteza by 10 million votes and its overseen by the gods with oburu odinga as iebc chairman. hapo usitarajie. Are you saying we are doomed?  I am happy
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So, if He looses again, can He still go back to maraga to ask another election in January 2018?
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Uhuru back on campaign trail "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Amores wrote:Jangwa la Jangili wrote:Amores wrote:quicksand wrote:Amores wrote:safariant wrote:ngapat wrote:Maraga trying to put himself in history book as the first judge in Africa to nullyfy a presidential election. He has fallen in Nasa's trap.
Maraga is not that smart after all There will be a ripple effect He was not the only one,majority of the judges were of the Opinion that the irregularities affected the outcome of the election,so it is not his decision only. However,I agree with the opinions of the two dissenting judges,the will of the people was expressed and no evidence was presented to warrant over turning that will. I have conflicting feelings about this ...on the one hand, we can't allow complacency in institutions and IEBC and anyone who might have a hand or think of inducing them into irregularity gets a slap in the face... on the other hand its going to be an economic blood bath. Either way, I am hoping two things happen: 1 - An election that is above board - beyond reproach 2 - RAO gets handed a defeat which as a result of (1) leaves him no excuses and no recourse other than to retire permanently from politics. I don't think he necessarily needs to retire,but to for once accept that he lost,and if he wants to run again,it is his right. On an election that is above board,I think that's a mirage.There will be flaws,the question is how those flaws affect the will of the people. Remember Hillary had a recount in some states,for example, winconsin gave her a paltry 61 more votes,where Trump won the state by more than 20000 votes. raila will not accept any election as fair where he isn't declared the president hata akipoteza by 10 million votes and its overseen by the gods with oburu odinga as iebc chairman. hapo usitarajie. Are you saying we are doomed? no. i'm saying we should tone down expectations. the problem in kenya is that the politicians are bigger than the institutions. Katika Jangwa la Jangili ndipo Pwagu hupata Pwaguzi.
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Much Know wrote:wazuaguest wrote:ngapat wrote:Its so unfortunate in kenya that even the supreme court judges along tribal lines. Only judge ojwang proved otherwise What is the reasoning here? Our Judges are canvassed for by politicians and passed by parliament, our politics is tribal, no arguing about that, you favor the side that got you the job, along with it's 41 vs 1 attitude and kikuyu this kikuyu that basic thinking no matter how educated. There is no ethics or justice in some of these places in Kenya, they will take 20 years for a poor mans land case but clear presidents in a week and say they are being "assisted by God". When those who were canvassed for by ODM (read particular tribes) benefit from an imbalance due to death, retirement, sickness, sacking e.t.c of judges on the bench, their is a 'stronger tribal view' among the judges, and judgement, a natural bias to favor their sponsors, power of supreme court urgently needs slashing. "Si mnaona nimewapatia Chief Justice" Uhuru Kenyatta during his campaigns in Kisii.
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Mutahi was right when he said a month ago that this maneno will drag mpaka next year.
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