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VituVingiSana
#9381 Posted : Saturday, January 06, 2018 4:33:33 PM
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obiero wrote:
Full year loss as at 31.12.2017 KES (5.1) B.. 30% improvement

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly If KQ can keep on reducing its losses by 30% every year for 3 years... perhaps it will become just a little less profitable than other bandia firms like Olympia!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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obiero
#9382 Posted : Saturday, January 06, 2018 6:42:15 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
Full year loss as at 31.12.2017 KES (5.1) B.. 30% improvement

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly If KQ can keep on reducing its losses by 30% every year for 3 years... perhaps it will become just a little less profitable than other bandia firms like Olympia!

Dear @vvs.. A profit in excess of KES 1B is near-assured in H1 2018, accompanied by the rally of a lifetime. Watch and learn

KQ ABP 4.26
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VituVingiSana
#9383 Posted : Saturday, January 06, 2018 8:05:37 PM
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obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
Full year loss as at 31.12.2017 KES (5.1) B.. 30% improvement

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly If KQ can keep on reducing its losses by 30% every year for 3 years... perhaps it will become just a little less profitable than other bandia firms like Olympia!

Dear @vvs.. A profit in excess of KES 1B is near-assured in H1 2018, accompanied by the rally of a lifetime. Watch and learn

Is that 1bn PAT?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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obiero
#9384 Posted : Saturday, January 06, 2018 9:32:46 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
Full year loss as at 31.12.2017 KES (5.1) B.. 30% improvement

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly If KQ can keep on reducing its losses by 30% every year for 3 years... perhaps it will become just a little less profitable than other bandia firms like Olympia!

Dear @vvs.. A profit in excess of KES 1B is near-assured in H1 2018, accompanied by the rally of a lifetime. Watch and learn

Is that 1bn PAT?

PBT

KQ ABP 4.26
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VituVingiSana
#9385 Posted : Saturday, January 06, 2018 11:55:56 PM
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obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
Full year loss as at 31.12.2017 KES (5.1) B.. 30% improvement

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly If KQ can keep on reducing its losses by 30% every year for 3 years... perhaps it will become just a little less profitable than other bandia firms like Olympia!

Dear @vvs.. A profit in excess of KES 1B is near-assured in H1 2018, accompanied by the rally of a lifetime. Watch and learn

Is that 1bn PAT?

PBT

Let's assume 1bn PBT for 1H and 2bn for 2H = 3bn for FY 2018
That's 3bn x 70% = 2.1bn PAT
What's the EPS based on the existing number of shares?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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obiero
#9386 Posted : Sunday, January 07, 2018 7:01:39 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
Full year loss as at 31.12.2017 KES (5.1) B.. 30% improvement

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly If KQ can keep on reducing its losses by 30% every year for 3 years... perhaps it will become just a little less profitable than other bandia firms like Olympia!

Dear @vvs.. A profit in excess of KES 1B is near-assured in H1 2018, accompanied by the rally of a lifetime. Watch and learn

Is that 1bn PAT?

PBT

Let's assume 1bn PBT for 1H and 2bn for 2H = 3bn for FY 2018
That's 3bn x 70% = 2.1bn PAT
What's the EPS based on the existing number of shares?

EPS 0.36 as a start on the road to recovery, with PE of 41.6!!! KQ PBT expected to clock KES 10B in next 4-5years

KQ ABP 4.26
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Ericsson
#9387 Posted : Sunday, January 07, 2018 8:03:39 AM
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obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
Full year loss as at 31.12.2017 KES (5.1) B.. 30% improvement

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly If KQ can keep on reducing its losses by 30% every year for 3 years... perhaps it will become just a little less profitable than other bandia firms like Olympia!

Dear @vvs.. A profit in excess of KES 1B is near-assured in H1 2018, accompanied by the rally of a lifetime. Watch and learn

Is that 1bn PAT?

PBT

Let's assume 1bn PBT for 1H and 2bn for 2H = 3bn for FY 2018
That's 3bn x 70% = 2.1bn PAT
What's the EPS based on the existing number of shares?

EPS 0.36 as a start on the road to recovery, with PE of 41.6!!! KQ PBT expected to clock KES 10B in next 4-5years

Profit of 10bn in next 4-5 years that is impossible.
It will take longer or be a mirage
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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obiero
#9388 Posted : Sunday, January 07, 2018 8:47:21 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
Full year loss as at 31.12.2017 KES (5.1) B.. over 30% improvement

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly If KQ can keep on reducing its losses by 30% every year for 3 years... perhaps it will become just a little less profitable than other bandia firms like Olympia!

Dear @vvs.. A profit in excess of KES 1B is near-assured in H1 2018, accompanied by the rally of a lifetime. Watch and learn

Is that 1bn PAT?

PBT

Let's assume 1bn PBT for 1H and 2bn for 2H = 3bn for FY 2018
That's 3bn x 70% = 2.1bn PAT
What's the EPS based on the existing number of shares?

EPS 0.36 as a start on the road to recovery, with PE of 41.6!!! KQ PBT expected to clock KES 10B in next 4-5years

Profit of 10bn in next 4-5 years that is impossible.
It will take longer or be a mirage

Have some faith. The same company made KES 6.8B in profit 11 years ago! A well managed KQ should not make an annual profit less than KES 7B..
Profits (EBT) (KSh B) From 2003 to 2017 descending:
0.5
2.0
5.5
6.8
5.9
6.5
−5.6
2.6
5.0
2.1
−10.8
−4.8
-29.7
-26.0
-10.2
-5.1 (forecast)

KQ ABP 4.26
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obiero
#9389 Posted : Monday, January 08, 2018 1:55:58 PM
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Spikes wrote:
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1 trading day to lift-off.. Mark these words, minimum KES 8.52, maximum intra day KES 14. Fair value KES 12.5

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Obiero for the title of Supporter of the Year... KQ should give you free tickets

Hehe.. I accept the award


@obiero How do you value stocks? Fundamentals or speculative information?

Obiero is buy low sell high and move on

I have a mixture of both strategies but I prefer speculation based on inside knowledge via the exchange bar

Fair value KES 12.5 when factoring-in the Open Offer.. Now is absolutely the wrong time to sell and not the most opportune time to buy for existing shareholders.. Though existing shareholders with hearts of steel may accumulate sub KES 22

I am tempted to buy at current price but I shall exercise restraint. Expect a continuous trip upwards to KES 18 upto release of the Open Offer circular followed by a rapid fall down immediately afterwards.. How low it will go shall be anyone's guess, but mine remains KES 12.5


@ obiero today you've given solid analysis.
Keep the fire blazing.
Though kes 18 is a pipedream.

Let's talk about this same post on 08.12.2017

From where I stand, the pipedream is gaining momentum

Why is the price not shooting yet there is no supply, I will never understand KQ.

Daily limits at the NSE.. Checkout the minimum and maximum price on each trading day since resumption of trading. The share will keep gaining at least 9.4% each day until the point of supply is reached, being KES 21.. Those with weak hearts are allowed to offload at KES 18 which will print this Friday

oh, I was wondering why my Itrader is showing the limit to be 0-27.30 for kQ.

@spikes the so called pipedream of KES 18 is two trading sessions away. Today KES 15 has printed firmly

Of novices in the game who call people names and ignorantly use terms like pipedream when faced by an obvious rally which they are unfortunately unable to understand. Refer to the color coded comments in this trail, watch and learn! KES 12.5 remains KQ fair value upon factoring the Open Offer

You make me feel like laugh! Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Suspension should be done on the KQ share until the Open Offer circular is released, since volume action is virtually non-existent. The forecasted trip down in share value has finally been noted and I continue to hold that KES 12.5 is fair value

KQ ABP 4.26
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Ericsson
#9390 Posted : Monday, January 08, 2018 2:01:16 PM
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It went up very fast.
Coming down is also fast
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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