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Bigchick
#921 Posted : Sunday, April 05, 2020 10:50:21 AM
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murchr wrote:
Why are we taking the US numbers as a weekness? The number just shows the capacity to test patients. The numbers also show that the majority of the patients are in NY and NJ. The 2 cities are major tourist destinations for Chinese and secondly their use of mass transportation accelerated the community spread. They are not struggling but overwhelmed. Also, the US donated most of its PPE to China in February, if only they knew what they know now.

Another thing, if you believe the Chinese numbers you are easily fooled. How countries handle wave 2 will determine everything


Did anybody say or suggest America is weak?No they are not.Its just that they are the mighty America and this was not expected to happen to them.

What is the difference between struggling and being overwhelmed?

What are the actual/near actual numbers in China and why do you believe they lied?How big are the margins of lies?

Looks like you have started your journey towards being a Doomsday Prophet.Now we have a wave 2 to come?
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#922 Posted : Sunday, April 05, 2020 11:46:42 AM
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Bigchick wrote:
murchr wrote:
Why are we taking the US numbers as a weekness? The number just shows the capacity to test patients. The numbers also show that the majority of the patients are in NY and NJ. The 2 cities are major tourist destinations for Chinese and secondly their use of mass transportation accelerated the community spread. They are not struggling but overwhelmed. Also, the US donated most of its PPE to China in February, if only they knew what they know now.

Another thing, if you believe the Chinese numbers you are easily fooled. How countries handle wave 2 will determine everything


Did anybody say or suggest America is weak?No they are not.Its just that they are the mighty America and this was not expected to happen to them.

What is the difference between struggling and being overwhelmed?

What are the actual/near actual numbers in China and why do you believe they lied?How big are the margins of lies?

Looks like you have started your journey towards being a Doomsday Prophet.Now we have a wave 2 to come?


The way America is handling this crisis shows that they are indeed weak. While the numbers from China may not be accurate, a look at the way they're religiously adhering to quarantine, self isolation and disinfection is something to be admired. They're even using technology to track people who have been exposed and denying them entry into public spaces. Meanwhile China is supplying ventilators to America and Europe. Germany, Taiwan, South Korea are also models to be emulated. America has been badly exposed.
masukuma
#923 Posted : Sunday, April 05, 2020 12:21:02 PM
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My question still remains... WHAT DOES STREET DISINFECTIONS HELP WITH? Is it informed by any science?
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tycho
#924 Posted : Sunday, April 05, 2020 12:33:23 PM
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mpobiz wrote:
tycho wrote:
3. If 25% of the infected population can be asymptomatic, and patients come and die en mass, then we need a mass treatment of the entire population and close support for emergent symptomatic cases.

As such, I recommend that instead of mass testing, and mass lockdown, we think of mass treatment exercises that can go round the country severally, and within time spans as short as 2 weeks.

Such an approach that integrates what we have so far, is sure to flatten the curve perhaps beyond our imagination, and will set a good pace and context for the controlled herd immunization.


Yes . The government should abandon mass testing and focus on home treatments. They should invest on motorcycles with nurses or skilled volunteers who will go round delivering chloroquine and other essential meds. Mass quarantine facilities are just a breeding ground of more servere strains of the virus. Care should be taken at home even for the most servere cases. This is Africa. We don't have to follow the west.


Indeed. I have also developed a preventive kit that should also be interactive, for use in households. This is meant especially for the vulnerable groups who may already be under other medication.
tycho
#925 Posted : Sunday, April 05, 2020 1:32:01 PM
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limanika
#926 Posted : Sunday, April 05, 2020 1:37:46 PM
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masukuma wrote:
My question still remains... WHAT DOES STREET DISINFECTIONS HELP WITH? Is it informed by any science?

Some of it looks like taking an advantage to seal loopholes the Kenyan way...wait to hear how much money was spent
mpobiz
#927 Posted : Sunday, April 05, 2020 1:41:04 PM
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Joined: 8/10/2010
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Shak wrote:
Bigchick wrote:
murchr wrote:
Why are we taking the US numbers as a weekness? The number just shows the capacity to test patients. The numbers also show that the majority of the patients are in NY and NJ. The 2 cities are major tourist destinations for Chinese and secondly their use of mass transportation accelerated the community spread. They are not struggling but overwhelmed. Also, the US donated most of its PPE to China in February, if only they knew what they know now.

Another thing, if you believe the Chinese numbers you are easily fooled. How countries handle wave 2 will determine everything


Did anybody say or suggest America is weak?No they are not.Its just that they are the mighty America and this was not expected to happen to them.

What is the difference between struggling and being overwhelmed?

What are the actual/near actual numbers in China and why do you believe they lied?How big are the margins of lies?

Looks like you have started your journey towards being a Doomsday Prophet.Now we have a wave 2 to come?


The way America is handling this crisis shows that they are indeed weak. While the numbers from China may not be accurate, a look at the way they're religiously adhering to quarantine, self isolation and disinfection is something to be admired. They're even using technology to track people who have been exposed and denying them entry into public spaces. Meanwhile China is supplying ventilators to America and Europe. Germany, Taiwan, South Korea are also models to be emulated. America has been badly exposed.


You are also forgetting that what is happening is what even scientists call an act of God. Is America weak because it is at war with the will of God? Trump is even considering opening churches for Easter.
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Spikes
#928 Posted : Sunday, April 05, 2020 1:47:54 PM
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murchr wrote:
Why are we taking the US numbers as a weekness? The number just shows the capacity to test patients. The numbers also show that the majority of the patients are in NY and NJ. The 2 cities are major tourist destinations for Chinese and secondly their use of mass transportation accelerated the community spread. They are not struggling but overwhelmed. Also, the US donated most of its PPE to China in February, if only they knew what they know now.

Another thing, if you believe the Chinese numbers you are easily fooled. How countries handle wave 2 will determine everything


When is wave 2 hitting the world? Is wave 2 projected more devastating than the current situation?
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Dahatre
#929 Posted : Sunday, April 05, 2020 2:21:58 PM
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sqft wrote:
Why the double standards in coverage of pandemics?


How the BBC is covering coronavirus in the the UK. No images of patients.





How the BBC covered ebola in Africa. The suffering and nakedness of dying african patients had to be beamed all over the world.



No double standard...It's dehumanization. To take people's resources you must first deny their humanity...then no guilt will be attached to your acts of cruelty. It's an age old tool of capitalism, that has been refined by the west.
mpobiz
#930 Posted : Sunday, April 05, 2020 2:32:20 PM
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Joined: 8/10/2010
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tycho wrote:
mpobiz wrote:
tycho wrote:
3. If 25% of the infected population can be asymptomatic, and patients come and die en mass, then we need a mass treatment of the entire population and close support for emergent symptomatic cases.

As such, I recommend that instead of mass testing, and mass lockdown, we think of mass treatment exercises that can go round the country severally, and within time spans as short as 2 weeks.

Such an approach that integrates what we have so far, is sure to flatten the curve perhaps beyond our imagination, and will set a good pace and context for the controlled herd immunization.


Yes . The government should abandon mass testing and focus on home treatments. They should invest on motorcycles with nurses or skilled volunteers who will go round delivering chloroquine and other essential meds. Mass quarantine facilities are just a breeding ground of more servere strains of the virus. Care should be taken at home even for the most servere cases. This is Africa. We don't have to follow the west.


Indeed. I have also developed a preventive kit that should also be interactive, for use in households. This is meant especially for the vulnerable groups who may already be under other medication.

This is the kind of home grown solutions that we must take into consideration after all we have nothing to loose.
Have you presented your proposal to anyone in MOH? We need to encourage ideas
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