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Attack at Westgate
masukuma
#921 Posted : Monday, September 23, 2013 1:22:24 PM
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#922 Posted : Monday, September 23, 2013 1:23:04 PM
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Could we please go back to the Westgate discussion.
We'll tackle immigration, gova and all the rest at an appropriate time.
Please, please let's only give updates on this thread so we don't have to start others.
Where I am this is my only genuine updater. Thanks.

BBI will solve it
:)
xyzee
#923 Posted : Monday, September 23, 2013 1:24:37 PM
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black smoke from westgate

Kuna nini?
radio
#924 Posted : Monday, September 23, 2013 1:25:26 PM
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Think we should stop the live broadcasts!

They are not aiding in the situation at all!

Pray Pray Pray Pray Pray
marko
#925 Posted : Monday, September 23, 2013 1:26:17 PM
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masukuma wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
First pictures of the terrorists:



Thanks jagger for the photo. Looking at the faces of these madmen has really gotten me worked up.

Is there a link with more of such?

Am not an expert on security operations but i think if the govt conducted a ruthless operation in eastleigh
that would see all businesses close for atleast one week, we might see some results. My reasoning here is that
given a choice between closing down their businesses and betraying the thugs among them, most businessmen
will opt for the latter
.

Then we turn the heat on all those who facilitated suspicious multi-million shillings property transactions a while back.

Followed by a forensic audit of all passports issued in the last 5 years. . . . . May be am too mad and cant think straight.

respond don't react


Any self respecting organisation starts on AAR(After Action Review)and assessment as soon as they are faced with a crisis and start working on measures to deal with the next one. Let me do a few IFs.
IF the police had their encripted communication network, then they would have asked SP to switch off their networks to prevent the terrorists from communicating. If you look at the picture closely you will see them holding mobile phones.
IF we had have a well co-ordinated crisis management organisational structure..am sure the situation would have been resolved more efficiently. Did you notice that armed civilians were busy getting people out while the police were still trying to organise themselves? that points to a lack of clear cut SOPs on matters crisis.
IF all Kenyans accepted we are our brothers keeper all the time and not only after a crisis happens, we wouldn't have ARMED foreigners organise themselves and take over a mall and NOONE saw anything.
WHO DARES WINS
carygoh
#926 Posted : Monday, September 23, 2013 1:29:41 PM
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jaggernaut wrote:
Very heavy gunfire....Pray Pray Pray

thats not Normal Gunfire ,we can hear the loud sound from Near Lion Place
Think Positive Test Negative
poundfoolish
#927 Posted : Monday, September 23, 2013 1:30:32 PM
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jaggernaut wrote:
Very heavy gunfire....Pray Pray Pray


Let them exhaust their fire power...fatigue/ self doubt should creep in.. serious Mujahidin would have finished their act a long time ago..

Unless this are just an evil lot... i think they were not ready to die
Mukiri
#928 Posted : Monday, September 23, 2013 1:35:08 PM
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marko wrote:
masukuma wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
First pictures of the terrorists:



Thanks jagger for the photo. Looking at the faces of these madmen has really gotten me worked up.

Is there a link with more of such?

Am not an expert on security operations but i think if the govt conducted a ruthless operation in eastleigh
that would see all businesses close for atleast one week, we might see some results. My reasoning here is that
given a choice between closing down their businesses and betraying the thugs among them, most businessmen
will opt for the latter
.

Then we turn the heat on all those who facilitated suspicious multi-million shillings property transactions a while back.

Followed by a forensic audit of all passports issued in the last 5 years. . . . . May be am too mad and cant think straight.

respond don't react


Any self respecting organisation starts on AAR(After Action Review)and assessment as soon as they are faced with a crisis and start working on measures to deal with the next one. Let me do a few IFs.
IF the police had their encripted communication network, then they would have asked SP to switch off their networks to prevent the terrorists from communicating. If you look at the picture closely you will see them holding mobile phones.
IF we had have a well co-ordinated crisis management organisational structure..am sure the situation would have been resolved more efficiently. Did you notice that armed civilians were busy getting people out while the police were still trying to organise themselves? that points to a lack of clear cut SOPs on matters crisis.
IF all Kenyans accepted we are our brothers keeper all the time and not only after a crisis happens, we wouldn't have ARMED foreigners organise themselves and take over a mall and NOONE saw anything.

@Marko.. I agree with you.

There needs to be clear protocol for every disaster imaginable. Like I said earlier, it worried me that the IG was said to want to get into battle?(Sundays Newspaper). He'd be best placed putting chain of command in place, ensuring co-ordination of tactical units etc and reporting back to the president. He might just bear the brunt of this catastrophe when its finally over.

Proverbs 19:21
kysse
#929 Posted : Monday, September 23, 2013 1:35:12 PM
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The tv in office shows fire on screen
webish
#930 Posted : Monday, September 23, 2013 1:35:13 PM
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smoke can be seen from UpperHill. Eish.

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