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Ebenyo wrote:obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:This thread is about to lose credibility it used to enjoy. Weka link i think he means that many retail shareholders of kq did not grasp this consolidation well.The final result is that if an investor had 4000 shares,he now has 1000.So there is still no gain whatsoever despite the price change.The banks and other big lenders are the ones who have benefited only.The former shareholders are still in the red. Many means who? Only very illiterate shareholders didn't digest the consolidated and they should have visited wazua for guidance. What about the minority who bought last few days at lows of KES 2.10.. Jua ikiwika ya wakia wote.. Those who take advantage have everything to gain COOP, KEGN, MTNU
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa
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obiero wrote:Ebenyo wrote:obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:This thread is about to lose credibility it used to enjoy. Weka link i think he means that many retail shareholders of kq did not grasp this consolidation well.The final result is that if an investor had 4000 shares,he now has 1000.So there is still no gain whatsoever despite the price change.The banks and other big lenders are the ones who have benefited only.The former shareholders are still in the red. Many means who? What about the minority who bought last few days at lows of KES 2.10.. Jua ikiwika ya wakia wote.. Those who take advantage have everything to gain What about the most timid minor shareholder who sold at kes 2.1/- Historical loss was made here. John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,371 Location: nairobi
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Spikes wrote:obiero wrote:Ebenyo wrote:obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:This thread is about to lose credibility it used to enjoy. Weka link i think he means that many retail shareholders of kq did not grasp this consolidation well.The final result is that if an investor had 4000 shares,he now has 1000.So there is still no gain whatsoever despite the price change.The banks and other big lenders are the ones who have benefited only.The former shareholders are still in the red. Many means who? What about the minority who bought last few days at lows of KES 2.10.. Jua ikiwika ya wakia wote.. Those who take advantage have everything to gain What about the most timid minor shareholder who sold at kes 2.1/- Historical loss was made here. That's a negative view of life COOP, KEGN, MTNU
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:obiero wrote:Ebenyo wrote:obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:This thread is about to lose credibility it used to enjoy. Weka link i think he means that many retail shareholders of kq did not grasp this consolidation well.The final result is that if an investor had 4000 shares,he now has 1000.So there is still no gain whatsoever despite the price change.The banks and other big lenders are the ones who have benefited only.The former shareholders are still in the red. Many means who? What about the minority who bought last few days at lows of KES 2.10.. Jua ikiwika ya wakia wote.. Those who take advantage have everything to gain What about the most timid minor shareholder who sold at kes 2.1/- Historical loss was made here. That's a negative view of life Boom shot! Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/27/2011 Posts: 301 Location: Nairobi
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Ebenyo wrote:obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:This thread is about to lose credibility it used to enjoy. Weka link i think he means that many retail shareholders of kq did not grasp this consolidation well.The final result is that if an investor had 4000 shares,he now has 1000.So there is still no gain whatsoever despite the price change.The banks and other big lenders are the ones who have benefited only.The former shareholders are still in the red. I've seen this assertion that "banks benefited" a few times including in the media. When we say that "banks benefited" what exactly does this mean in this context? any one who knows how they seemingly "benefited" ? If they converted to shares prior to consolidation, they should have been subject to consolidation too. If they converted after consolidation, they should have paid the higher price of the share post consolidation. Did neither of this apply? was a discount applied on the conversion price?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,830 Location: NAIROBI
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eboomerang wrote:Ebenyo wrote:obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:This thread is about to lose credibility it used to enjoy. Weka link i think he means that many retail shareholders of kq did not grasp this consolidation well.The final result is that if an investor had 4000 shares,he now has 1000.So there is still no gain whatsoever despite the price change.The banks and other big lenders are the ones who have benefited only.The former shareholders are still in the red. I've seen this assertion a few times including in the media When we say that "banks benefited" what exactly does this mean? any one who know how they seemingly "benefited" ? If they converted to shares prior to consolidation, they should have been subject to consolidation too. If they converted after consolidation, they should have paid the higher price of the share post consolidation. Did neither of this apply? was a discount applied on the conversion price? Acha kelele Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/27/2011 Posts: 301 Location: Nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:eboomerang wrote:Ebenyo wrote:obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:This thread is about to lose credibility it used to enjoy. Weka link i think he means that many retail shareholders of kq did not grasp this consolidation well.The final result is that if an investor had 4000 shares,he now has 1000.So there is still no gain whatsoever despite the price change.The banks and other big lenders are the ones who have benefited only.The former shareholders are still in the red. I've seen this assertion a few times including in the media When we say that "banks benefited" what exactly does this mean? any one who knows how they seemingly "benefited" ? If they converted to shares prior to consolidation, they should have been subject to consolidation too. If they converted after consolidation, they should have paid the higher price of the share post consolidation. Did neither of this apply? was a discount applied on the conversion price? Acha kelele Accept and move on ? 
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2016 Posts: 2,022 Location: Kitale
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Ericsson wrote:eboomerang wrote:Ebenyo wrote:obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:This thread is about to lose credibility it used to enjoy. Weka link i think he means that many retail shareholders of kq did not grasp this consolidation well.The final result is that if an investor had 4000 shares,he now has 1000.So there is still no gain whatsoever despite the price change.The banks and other big lenders are the ones who have benefited only.The former shareholders are still in the red. I've seen this assertion a few times including in the media When we say that "banks benefited" what exactly does this mean? any one who know how they seemingly "benefited" ? If they converted to shares prior to consolidation, they should have been subject to consolidation too. If they converted after consolidation, they should have paid the higher price of the share post consolidation. Did neither of this apply? was a discount applied on the conversion price? Acha kelele  thanks ericson for coming to my aid.hiyo maswali mingi aulize obiero ndio anajua.mimi naye nilisoma kwa media. Towards the goal of financial freedom
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,830 Location: NAIROBI
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eboomerang wrote:Ericsson wrote:eboomerang wrote:Ebenyo wrote:obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:This thread is about to lose credibility it used to enjoy. Weka link i think he means that many retail shareholders of kq did not grasp this consolidation well.The final result is that if an investor had 4000 shares,he now has 1000.So there is still no gain whatsoever despite the price change.The banks and other big lenders are the ones who have benefited only.The former shareholders are still in the red. I've seen this assertion a few times including in the media When we say that "banks benefited" what exactly does this mean? any one who knows how they seemingly "benefited" ? If they converted to shares prior to consolidation, they should have been subject to consolidation too. If they converted after consolidation, they should have paid the higher price of the share post consolidation. Did neither of this apply? was a discount applied on the conversion price? Acha kelele Accept and move on ? Talk about the future;whatever you are saying has been done and can't change now Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,371 Location: nairobi
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Ebenyo wrote:Ericsson wrote:eboomerang wrote:Ebenyo wrote:obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:This thread is about to lose credibility it used to enjoy. Weka link i think he means that many retail shareholders of kq did not grasp this consolidation well.The final result is that if an investor had 4000 shares,he now has 1000.So there is still no gain whatsoever despite the price change.The banks and other big lenders are the ones who have benefited only.The former shareholders are still in the red. I've seen this assertion a few times including in the media When we say that "banks benefited" what exactly does this mean? any one who know how they seemingly "benefited" ? If they converted to shares prior to consolidation, they should have been subject to consolidation too. If they converted after consolidation, they should have paid the higher price of the share post consolidation. Did neither of this apply? was a discount applied on the conversion price? Acha kelele thanks ericson for coming to my aid.hiyo maswali mingi aulize obiero ndio anajua.mimi naye nilisoma kwa media. Lol.. Kuweni wapole @eboomerang.. KQ Lenders Co Ltd obtained 1 ordinary share and 19 deffered shares which were then consolidated from a previous price of KES 2.13. So they gain at any price above KES 8.52 COOP, KEGN, MTNU
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