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obiero
#9241 Posted : Wednesday, December 13, 2017 2:28:15 PM
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Ebenyo wrote:
obiero wrote:
Spikes wrote:
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i think he means that many retail shareholders of kq did not grasp this consolidation well.The final result is that if an investor had 4000 shares,he now has 1000.So there is still no gain whatsoever despite the price change.The banks and other big lenders are the ones who have benefited only.The former shareholders are still in the red.

Many means who? Only very illiterate shareholders didn't digest the consolidated and they should have visited wazua for guidance. What about the minority who bought last few days at lows of KES 2.10.. Jua ikiwika ya wakia wote.. Those who take advantage have everything to gain

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Spikes
#9242 Posted : Wednesday, December 13, 2017 2:31:33 PM
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obiero wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
obiero wrote:
Spikes wrote:
This thread is about to lose credibility it used to enjoy.

Weka link



i think he means that many retail shareholders of kq did not grasp this consolidation well.The final result is that if an investor had 4000 shares,he now has 1000.So there is still no gain whatsoever despite the price change.The banks and other big lenders are the ones who have benefited only.The former shareholders are still in the red.

Many means who? What about the minority who bought last few days at lows of KES 2.10.. Jua ikiwika ya wakia wote.. Those who take advantage have everything to gain


What about the most timid minor shareholder who sold at kes 2.1/- Historical loss was made here.
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obiero
#9243 Posted : Wednesday, December 13, 2017 2:53:26 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,217
Location: nairobi
Spikes wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
obiero wrote:
Spikes wrote:
This thread is about to lose credibility it used to enjoy.

Weka link



i think he means that many retail shareholders of kq did not grasp this consolidation well.The final result is that if an investor had 4000 shares,he now has 1000.So there is still no gain whatsoever despite the price change.The banks and other big lenders are the ones who have benefited only.The former shareholders are still in the red.

Many means who? What about the minority who bought last few days at lows of KES 2.10.. Jua ikiwika ya wakia wote.. Those who take advantage have everything to gain


What about the most timid minor shareholder who sold at kes 2.1/- Historical loss was made here.

That's a negative view of life

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sparkly
#9244 Posted : Thursday, December 14, 2017 12:17:15 AM
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obiero wrote:
Spikes wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
obiero wrote:
Spikes wrote:
This thread is about to lose credibility it used to enjoy.

Weka link



i think he means that many retail shareholders of kq did not grasp this consolidation well.The final result is that if an investor had 4000 shares,he now has 1000.So there is still no gain whatsoever despite the price change.The banks and other big lenders are the ones who have benefited only.The former shareholders are still in the red.

Many means who? What about the minority who bought last few days at lows of KES 2.10.. Jua ikiwika ya wakia wote.. Those who take advantage have everything to gain


What about the most timid minor shareholder who sold at kes 2.1/- Historical loss was made here.

That's a negative view of life


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eboomerang
#9245 Posted : Thursday, December 14, 2017 12:51:39 PM
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Ebenyo wrote:
obiero wrote:
Spikes wrote:
This thread is about to lose credibility it used to enjoy.

Weka link



i think he means that many retail shareholders of kq did not grasp this consolidation well.The final result is that if an investor had 4000 shares,he now has 1000.So there is still no gain whatsoever despite the price change.The banks and other big lenders are the ones who have benefited only.The former shareholders are still in the red.

I've seen this assertion that "banks benefited" a few times including in the media. When we say that "banks benefited" what exactly does this mean in this context? any one who knows how they seemingly "benefited" ?

If they converted to shares prior to consolidation, they should have been subject to consolidation too. If they converted after consolidation, they should have paid the higher price of the share post consolidation. Did neither of this apply? was a discount applied on the conversion price?
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Ericsson
#9246 Posted : Thursday, December 14, 2017 12:53:22 PM
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Posts: 10,804
Location: NAIROBI
eboomerang wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
obiero wrote:
Spikes wrote:
This thread is about to lose credibility it used to enjoy.

Weka link



i think he means that many retail shareholders of kq did not grasp this consolidation well.The final result is that if an investor had 4000 shares,he now has 1000.So there is still no gain whatsoever despite the price change.The banks and other big lenders are the ones who have benefited only.The former shareholders are still in the red.

I've seen this assertion a few times including in the media When we say that "banks benefited" what exactly does this mean? any one who know how they seemingly "benefited" ?

If they converted to shares prior to consolidation, they should have been subject to consolidation too. If they converted after consolidation, they should have paid the higher price of the share post consolidation. Did neither of this apply? was a discount applied on the conversion price?


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eboomerang
#9247 Posted : Thursday, December 14, 2017 12:55:01 PM
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Location: Nairobi
Ericsson wrote:
eboomerang wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
obiero wrote:
Spikes wrote:
This thread is about to lose credibility it used to enjoy.

Weka link



i think he means that many retail shareholders of kq did not grasp this consolidation well.The final result is that if an investor had 4000 shares,he now has 1000.So there is still no gain whatsoever despite the price change.The banks and other big lenders are the ones who have benefited only.The former shareholders are still in the red.

I've seen this assertion a few times including in the media When we say that "banks benefited" what exactly does this mean? any one who knows how they seemingly "benefited" ?

If they converted to shares prior to consolidation, they should have been subject to consolidation too. If they converted after consolidation, they should have paid the higher price of the share post consolidation. Did neither of this apply? was a discount applied on the conversion price?


Acha kelele

Accept and move on ? smile
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Ebenyo
#9248 Posted : Thursday, December 14, 2017 12:59:40 PM
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Posts: 2,016
Location: Kitale
Ericsson wrote:
eboomerang wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
obiero wrote:
Spikes wrote:
This thread is about to lose credibility it used to enjoy.

Weka link



i think he means that many retail shareholders of kq did not grasp this consolidation well.The final result is that if an investor had 4000 shares,he now has 1000.So there is still no gain whatsoever despite the price change.The banks and other big lenders are the ones who have benefited only.The former shareholders are still in the red.

I've seen this assertion a few times including in the media When we say that "banks benefited" what exactly does this mean? any one who know how they seemingly "benefited" ?

If they converted to shares prior to consolidation, they should have been subject to consolidation too. If they converted after consolidation, they should have paid the higher price of the share post consolidation. Did neither of this apply? was a discount applied on the conversion price?


Acha kelele



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Ericsson
#9249 Posted : Thursday, December 14, 2017 12:59:50 PM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,804
Location: NAIROBI
eboomerang wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
eboomerang wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
obiero wrote:
Spikes wrote:
This thread is about to lose credibility it used to enjoy.

Weka link



i think he means that many retail shareholders of kq did not grasp this consolidation well.The final result is that if an investor had 4000 shares,he now has 1000.So there is still no gain whatsoever despite the price change.The banks and other big lenders are the ones who have benefited only.The former shareholders are still in the red.

I've seen this assertion a few times including in the media When we say that "banks benefited" what exactly does this mean? any one who knows how they seemingly "benefited" ?

If they converted to shares prior to consolidation, they should have been subject to consolidation too. If they converted after consolidation, they should have paid the higher price of the share post consolidation. Did neither of this apply? was a discount applied on the conversion price?


Acha kelele

Accept and move on ? smile


Talk about the future;whatever you are saying has been done and can't change now
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Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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obiero
#9250 Posted : Thursday, December 14, 2017 1:08:00 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,217
Location: nairobi
Ebenyo wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
eboomerang wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
obiero wrote:
Spikes wrote:
This thread is about to lose credibility it used to enjoy.

Weka link



i think he means that many retail shareholders of kq did not grasp this consolidation well.The final result is that if an investor had 4000 shares,he now has 1000.So there is still no gain whatsoever despite the price change.The banks and other big lenders are the ones who have benefited only.The former shareholders are still in the red.

I've seen this assertion a few times including in the media When we say that "banks benefited" what exactly does this mean? any one who know how they seemingly "benefited" ?

If they converted to shares prior to consolidation, they should have been subject to consolidation too. If they converted after consolidation, they should have paid the higher price of the share post consolidation. Did neither of this apply? was a discount applied on the conversion price?


Acha kelele



Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly thanks ericson for coming to my aid.hiyo maswali mingi aulize obiero ndio anajua.mimi naye nilisoma kwa media.

Lol.. Kuweni wapole @eboomerang.. KQ Lenders Co Ltd obtained 1 ordinary share and 19 deffered shares which were then consolidated from a previous price of KES 2.13. So they gain at any price above KES 8.52

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