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Rank: Member Joined: 5/30/2016 Posts: 217 Location: Talai
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Spikes wrote:obiero wrote:mlennyma wrote:obiero wrote:mlennyma wrote:obiero wrote:Now at KES 16.5.. The guy who bought on 29.12.17 at KES 2.1 is now up 686% as some clowns like @spikes keep using internet bandwidth to post meaningless tripe. The aim of stock trading is to buy low and sell high, everything else is vanity On what volume? it could be worth afew beers It was 2,100 shares bought at KES 4,410 now worth KES 34,650.. Its obvious that the person can offload this holding at an abnormal profit. A very lucky fellow good Xmas gift 258% on COOP in the year 2009 is my all time highest return on investment so when I see such a figure, I can only admire This bugger @ obiero is shouting from rooftops just a big spectator while other traders are making a killing. The bugger's holding is still under water waiting for a meagre rescue from Open Offer. I can't keep engaging with a naive bugger whose timing of the market is wanting! I waiting for ksh. 33.33cts to recover my ksh. if i sell now. i will alot of ksh. may be price tag: 35/-i will be at a profit category.. meanwhile i watching and waiting ...    Watch and Listen and Live
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,213 Location: nairobi
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Spikes wrote:obiero wrote:mlennyma wrote:obiero wrote:mlennyma wrote:obiero wrote:Now at KES 16.5.. The guy who bought on 29.12.17 at KES 2.1 is now up 686% as some clowns like @spikes keep using internet bandwidth to post meaningless tripe. The aim of stock trading is to buy low and sell high, everything else is vanity On what volume? it could be worth afew beers It was 2,100 shares bought at KES 4,410 now worth KES 34,650.. Its obvious that the person can offload this holding at an abnormal profit. A very lucky fellow good Xmas gift 258% on COOP in the year 2009 is my all time highest return on investment so when I see such a figure, I can only admire This bugger @ obiero is shouting from rooftops just a big spectator while other traders are making a killing. The bugger's holding is still under water waiting for a meagre rescue from Open Offer. I can't keep engaging with a naive bugger whose timing of the market is wanting! You said KQ printing KES 18 is a pipedream and now you become abusive when the pipedream turns to reality? Meanwhile I appreciate your feedback. Better being a big spectator self declared underwater than someone with an unknown portfolio! I aim to put wazuans onto the correct buses and you don't have to board this bus. Period!
KQ ABP 4.26
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/4/2007 Posts: 91
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obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:obiero wrote:mlennyma wrote:obiero wrote:mlennyma wrote:obiero wrote:Now at KES 16.5.. The guy who bought on 29.12.17 at KES 2.1 is now up 686% as some clowns like @spikes keep using internet bandwidth to post meaningless tripe. The aim of stock trading is to buy low and sell high, everything else is vanity On what volume? it could be worth afew beers It was 2,100 shares bought at KES 4,410 now worth KES 34,650.. Its obvious that the person can offload this holding at an abnormal profit. A very lucky fellow good Xmas gift 258% on COOP in the year 2009 is my all time highest return on investment so when I see such a figure, I can only admire This bugger @ obiero is shouting from rooftops just a big spectator while other traders are making a killing. The bugger's holding is still under water waiting for a meagre rescue from Open Offer. I can't keep engaging with a naive bugger whose timing of the market is wanting! You said KQ printing KES 18 is a pipedream and now you become abusive when the pipedream turns to reality? Meanwhile I appreciate your feedback. Better being a big spectator self declared underwater than someone with an unknown portfolio! I aim to put wazuans onto the correct buses and you don't have to board this bus. Period! @ obiero. I have keenly followed your analysis and forecast for KQ and must say you've been spot on so far . I'm up 60% on purchase of post-split shares @10bob and would happily buy you a beer or coffee  . I am tracking my pre- split KQ shares separately which are currently performing at -31%. I can't seem to decide whether to cash in the shares bought post-split before the Open Offer and book profit and ride the wave with the pre-split shares post Open Offer....or jump in both feet with both the pre and post split offer Knowledge is power , but action gets things done ...
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,346 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:obiero wrote:obiero wrote:obiero wrote:spikes wrote:obiero wrote:
I am tempted to buy at current price but I shall exercise restraint. Expect a continuous trip upwards to KES 18 upto release of the Open Offer circular followed by a rapid fall down immediately afterwards.. How low it will go shall be anyone's guess, but mine remains KES 12.5
@ obiero today you've given solid analysis. Keep the fire blazing. Though kes 18 is a pipedream. Let's talk about this same post on 08.12.2017 From where I stand, the pipedream is gaining momentum @spikes the so called pipedream of KES 18 is two trading sessions away. Today KES 15 has printed firmly Tomorrow market opens with KES 16.4 as KQ flies head first towards the so called pipedream of KES 18 as alleged by the clown @spikes.. Trading in shares requires deep understanding of trends 18 for 4 (old) Shares = 4.50 Wasn’t this the price BEFORE the restructuring? What’s the “new” NAV/Share? When will KQ publish the next set of results? What does the Mandatory Debt Conversion (KQLC) entail? I do wish KQ success since it will benefit GoK (Taxpayers), banks I have invested in and it’s good for Kenya. I hope KQ isn’t handed over to rogues like Titus and Alex after MJ & SM are done reviving it. Now when I look back, it was a grave mistake to replace Brian Presbury & his team with Naikuni & his crooked cronies. You keep factoring out the Open Offer my friend hence your computation will always fall short of making sense of the current price NAV is currently about 2.. 152B-141B/5.2B End year for the firm is now Dec 2017 Mandatory debt conversion in which aspect? Isn’t the Open Offer in limbo as regards the pricing? What was the 1.80 for? Was it based on a NEW share or old share? I don’t see the banks agreeing to an Open Offer for much less than what they paid ie 8.52 and that’s a high price for a 2/- NAV/Share and zero profits. The Circular referred to a Mandatory Debt Conversion by KQLC ie it seemed to indicate that KQLC (banks) may be forced to convert more of their debt into equity at a later stage. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,213 Location: nairobi
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Pirate wrote:obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:obiero wrote:mlennyma wrote:obiero wrote:mlennyma wrote:obiero wrote:Now at KES 16.5.. The guy who bought on 29.12.17 at KES 2.1 is now up 686% as some clowns like @spikes keep using internet bandwidth to post meaningless tripe. The aim of stock trading is to buy low and sell high, everything else is vanity On what volume? it could be worth afew beers It was 2,100 shares bought at KES 4,410 now worth KES 34,650.. Its obvious that the person can offload this holding at an abnormal profit. A very lucky fellow good Xmas gift 258% on COOP in the year 2009 is my all time highest return on investment so when I see such a figure, I can only admire This bugger @ obiero is shouting from rooftops just a big spectator while other traders are making a killing. The bugger's holding is still under water waiting for a meagre rescue from Open Offer. I can't keep engaging with a naive bugger whose timing of the market is wanting! You said KQ printing KES 18 is a pipedream and now you become abusive when the pipedream turns to reality? Meanwhile I appreciate your feedback. Better being a big spectator self declared underwater than someone with an unknown portfolio! I aim to put wazuans onto the correct buses and you don't have to board this bus. Period! @ obiero. I have keenly followed your analysis and forecast for KQ and must say you've been spot on so far . I'm up 60% on purchase of post-split shares @10bob and would happily buy you a beer or coffee . I am tracking my pre- split KQ shares separately which are currently performing at -31%. I can't seem to decide whether to cash in the shares bought post-split before the Open Offer and book profit and ride the wave with the pre-split shares post Open Offer....or jump in both feet with both the pre and post split offer @pirate good to know that you have made some money that was left on the table for the brave to collect.. As for the consolidated shares I would guide you not to sell right now until the Open Offer circular is released and interpreted.. That document is key for any new moves. I personally only bought some KQ shares yesterday at KES 15 as a separate portfolio similar in tracking to your method, since the current discount is mind blowing.. Break even point for most of the stockholders remains the Rights Issue price of KES 12 translated to KES 48 post consolidation.. Expect massive volume at prices above KES 21 which will be a resistance point. Incase the Open Offer circular is severely delayed, KES 28-32 may print
KQ ABP 4.26
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,213 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:obiero wrote:obiero wrote:obiero wrote:spikes wrote:obiero wrote:
I am tempted to buy at current price but I shall exercise restraint. Expect a continuous trip upwards to KES 18 upto release of the Open Offer circular followed by a rapid fall down immediately afterwards.. How low it will go shall be anyone's guess, but mine remains KES 12.5
@ obiero today you've given solid analysis. Keep the fire blazing. Though kes 18 is a pipedream. Let's talk about this same post on 08.12.2017 From where I stand, the pipedream is gaining momentum @spikes the so called pipedream of KES 18 is two trading sessions away. Today KES 15 has printed firmly Tomorrow market opens with KES 16.4 as KQ flies head first towards the so called pipedream of KES 18 as alleged by the clown @spikes.. Trading in shares requires deep understanding of trends 18 for 4 (old) Shares = 4.50 Wasn’t this the price BEFORE the restructuring? What’s the “new” NAV/Share? When will KQ publish the next set of results? What does the Mandatory Debt Conversion (KQLC) entail? I do wish KQ success since it will benefit GoK (Taxpayers), banks I have invested in and it’s good for Kenya. I hope KQ isn’t handed over to rogues like Titus and Alex after MJ & SM are done reviving it. Now when I look back, it was a grave mistake to replace Brian Presbury & his team with Naikuni & his crooked cronies. You keep factoring out the Open Offer my friend hence your computation will always fall short of making sense of the current price NAV is currently about 2.. 152B-141B/5.2B End year for the firm is now Dec 2017 Mandatory debt conversion in which aspect? Isn’t the Open Offer in limbo as regards the pricing? What was the 1.80 for? Was it based on a NEW share or old share? I don’t see the banks agreeing to an Open Offer for much less than what they paid ie 8.52 and that’s a high price for a 2/- NAV/Share and zero profits. The Circular referred to a Mandatory Debt Conversion by KQLC ie it seemed to indicate that KQLC (banks) may be forced to convert more of their debt into equity at a later stage. @vvs The Open Offer matter is out of the hands of KQ Lenders Co Ltd since the same was passed by all prior shareholders at the EGM and was part of the restructuring agreement. Mandatory convert was an option taken over by JBB only.. As for the pricing to the Open Offer shares, preemption was guaranteed but mathematically any ratio between 2 to 5 new shares can achieve the KES 1.5B though with increasing Open Offer prices for each fewer new share allocation.. KES 1.8 was the gauge based on 5 new shares subject to board approval.. Please read clause 3.7 paragraph one to confirm the guaranteed discount on market value post restructuring www.winda.co.ke/projectsafari.pdf
KQ ABP 4.26
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,804 Location: NAIROBI
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Kenyanwallstreet @kenyanwalstreet Kenya Airways (KQ) Share Price now at Sh 16.50, our target price is at Sh 25 then correct down to Sh 2.50. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,213 Location: nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:Kenyanwallstreet
@kenyanwalstreet
Kenya Airways (KQ) Share Price now at Sh 16.50, our target price is at Sh 25 then correct down to Sh 2.50. Cheap drugs
KQ ABP 4.26
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,213 Location: nairobi
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Spikes wrote:obiero wrote:obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:obiero wrote:obiero wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:Spikes wrote:obiero wrote:the deal wrote:obiero wrote:1 trading day to lift-off.. Mark these words, minimum KES 8.52, maximum intra day KES 14. Fair value KES 12.5  Obiero for the title of Supporter of the Year... KQ should give you free tickets Hehe.. I accept the award @obiero How do you value stocks? Fundamentals or speculative information? Obiero is buy low sell high and move on I have a mixture of both strategies but I prefer speculation based on inside knowledge via the exchange bar Fair value KES 12.5 when factoring-in the Open Offer.. Now is absolutely the wrong time to sell and not the most opportune time to buy for existing shareholders.. Though existing shareholders with hearts of steel may accumulate sub KES 22 I am tempted to buy at current price but I shall exercise restraint. Expect a continuous trip upwards to KES 18 upto release of the Open Offer circular followed by a rapid fall down immediately afterwards.. How low it will go shall be anyone's guess, but mine remains KES 12.5 @ obiero today you've given solid analysis. Keep the fire blazing. Though kes 18 is a pipedream. Let's talk about this same post on 08.12.2017 From where I stand, the pipedream is gaining momentum Tomorrow those with weak hearts are allowed to disembark at KES 18.. The brave must brace for the rally of a lifetime
KQ ABP 4.26
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/6/2016 Posts: 167 Location: Nairobi
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despite seismic turbulences, I must say obiero and KQ remain on track!
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