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obiero
#9111 Posted : Friday, December 01, 2017 10:45:36 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
This thing traded at KES 3.8 a few days ago and today we see its at KES 5.55. A traders stock like no other. Bound to be the best performing stock for second year in a row. Watu wa fundamentals muende kwa thread ya SCOM au BAT.. Next stop KES 8.52


No chance of it being best performing stock for the year.
It started the year at 6.70 on January 3 2017.

Only time will tell

Time is telling.. Watch and learn


5.85 with consolidation is 23.4.
We are now at 12.45 or 3.11 pre-consolidation

Chakula bado jikoni.. Tulia

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sparkly
#9112 Posted : Saturday, December 02, 2017 12:07:45 AM
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obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
This thing traded at KES 3.8 a few days ago and today we see its at KES 5.55. A traders stock like no other. Bound to be the best performing stock for second year in a row. Watu wa fundamentals muende kwa thread ya SCOM au BAT.. Next stop KES 8.52


No chance of it being best performing stock for the year.
It started the year at 6.70 on January 3 2017.

Only time will tell

Time is telling.. Watch and learn


5.85 with consolidation is 23.4.
We are now at 12.45 or 3.11 pre-consolidation

Chakula bado jikoni.. Tulia


KQ is a disaster. The only reason it has not be allowed to die a sudden death is because it owes an arm and a leg to Boeing, General Electric and their associated aircraft leasing companies in Ireland et al.

They have screwed over Wanjiku through Rights, GOK through intergovernmental interventions and local banks through the restructing.

The bottomline is that no airline in the world can break even from ticket sales . The gulf airlines heavily subsidize their airlines to attract tourists, private airlines are running frauds and other carriers are in it for national pride.

As vvs said, the taxpayer carries the burden of KQ, no need to add your personal skin.
Life is short. Live passionately.
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obiero
#9113 Posted : Saturday, December 02, 2017 3:34:12 AM
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sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
This thing traded at KES 3.8 a few days ago and today we see its at KES 5.55. A traders stock like no other. Bound to be the best performing stock for second year in a row. Watu wa fundamentals muende kwa thread ya SCOM au BAT.. Next stop KES 8.52


No chance of it being best performing stock for the year.
It started the year at 6.70 on January 3 2017.

Only time will tell

Time is telling.. Watch and learn


5.85 with consolidation is 23.4.
We are now at 12.45 or 3.11 pre-consolidation

Chakula bado jikoni.. Tulia


KQ is a disaster. The only reason it has not be allowed to die a sudden death is because it owes an arm and a leg to Boeing, General Electric and their associated aircraft leasing companies in Ireland et al.

They have screwed over Wanjiku through Rights, GOK through intergovernmental interventions and local banks through the restructing.

The bottomline is that no airline in the world can break even from ticket sales . The gulf airlines heavily subsidize their airlines to attract tourists, private airlines are running frauds and other carriers are in it for national pride.

As vvs said, the taxpayer carries the burden of KQ, no need to add your personal skin.

Exactly how have GoK, KLM and KQ Lenders Co Ltd been screwed while shares they bought at KES 8.52 are now trading at KES 12.5? KQ was once profitable and it will return to profit. GoK support is required and has been given.. The share once rose from KES 9 to over KES 126.. Though past performance should not guide any investment decisions, KQ will make some shrewd people lots of money, but is understandbly not everyone's cup of tea. Only the bold, patient and liquid are expected around here. As for wanjiku, we cannot say whether the share is such a disaster stuff until the Open Offer price and ratio is revealed. Meanwhile watch the share gain value at daily maximum over the next 5-7 trading sessions

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obiero
#9114 Posted : Monday, December 04, 2017 7:27:11 AM
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The rally of a lifetime continues at the NSE today. 64.5B market capitalisation and still counting.. Watch and learn.. http://www.businessdaily...212866-791pdo/index.html

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obiero
#9115 Posted : Monday, December 04, 2017 7:59:06 AM
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muandiwambeu wrote:
omega wrote:
obiero wrote:
@ the exchange bar.. word is out; 7.8B new shares needed to cover 48B conversion of GoK and financiers debt at KES 25B & 23B, respectively.. Share price agreed between parties for purchase is KES 7.2.. Fundamentally, KQ has obtained a new lease of life. Due to this fact, National Assembly has agreed to pass the Sessional Paper 3 in Wednesday's sitting. I sit tight, noting that in stock investment you must be prepared mentally to loose everything or gain it all..


7.8B plus the current issued shares (1.5B) comes to 9.3B.

If we use a profit after tax of 3.5B (2011), which is best result that KQ has managed in the last ten years, then the EPS would be 0.38. With a generous PE of 10, it would then trade at ksh 3.8 per share.

Given the full recovery is a way off, I wouldn't be surprised if KQ traded at below ksh 2 per share.

Even God's would be wrong to let all these prophecies of a tumbili KQ not come true. Fundamentally, we can not be wrong too now.

Six months later..

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obiero
#9116 Posted : Monday, December 04, 2017 8:09:28 AM
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sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
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ARAP CHARLES wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
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Obiero alisema kq is now ready for takeoff and rally of a life time.
Waiting to see.
Now they are competing with Uchumi in share price

Tulia tuli. Wednesday iko karibu. Once we know that the restructuring is cast in stone, you will witness a rally unseen in many years. Up to 81% gains are expected. Thank me in next few weeks


Price shown is wrong. Correct price is 8.50. We demand to be given access to the NSE server to post the correct price.


hahaha hahaha.... interestingly if we are to be going this way.. everything should be shut down.

Haha. You guys have only three days to laugh at KQ. Money is about to be made


3 days umekuwa ukiimba hazijawahi fika

Watu wameshatengeneza pesa na hii kitu. Read through this thread


Forty years in the deserts of Sinai. Canaan haifiki jameni?

Mockery is a form of flattery

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VituVingiSana
#9117 Posted : Monday, December 04, 2017 9:31:39 AM
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obiero wrote:
Kusadikika wrote:
Banks always have provisions for bad debts. This is an important thing to remember here because the share price will not depend on any fundamentals in the near term, it will depend on how banks choose to deal with their shares.

A decision to cut losses and get whatever cash they can will will lead to a massive selloff that will drive down share price.

Banks need cash and they are in the business of selling debts every day not sitting and waiting for shares to appreciate. I bet some bankers would be willing to take 50% or less of what they put in if they could get the cash today rather than wait 5 years and hope to recover the whole amount. As soon as serious buyers show up this price will tank precipitously. I hope I am wrong but a steep drop is coming. I am calling a sub 5/= by end of January 2018.

Remember that the banks do not hold the shares as banks but via KQ Lenders Co Ltd with Dr Martin Oduor as the chosen bank representative.. The said company is run by directors via resolutions.. I would love to see any resolution to sell KQ stock at KES 5 while they bought at KES 8.52.. Further the main banks can opt to buy out the leaner ones to stabilize the price.. These are not sheepish shareholders with no clue of what they are doing.. January is not far.. We await your prophesy to materialize

I wonder which of the banks were dumb enough to lend to KQ from 2012 onwards. A glance at the KQ thread in 2012 would have exposed the hole Naikuni and Mbugua were digging for KQ.

A prescient blogger had warned investors about KQ’s Rights scam.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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obiero
#9118 Posted : Monday, December 04, 2017 10:18:13 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
Kusadikika wrote:
Banks always have provisions for bad debts. This is an important thing to remember here because the share price will not depend on any fundamentals in the near term, it will depend on how banks choose to deal with their shares.

A decision to cut losses and get whatever cash they can will will lead to a massive selloff that will drive down share price.

Banks need cash and they are in the business of selling debts every day not sitting and waiting for shares to appreciate. I bet some bankers would be willing to take 50% or less of what they put in if they could get the cash today rather than wait 5 years and hope to recover the whole amount. As soon as serious buyers show up this price will tank precipitously. I hope I am wrong but a steep drop is coming. I am calling a sub 5/= by end of January 2018.

Remember that the banks do not hold the shares as banks but via KQ Lenders Co Ltd with Dr Martin Oduor as the chosen bank representative.. The said company is run by directors via resolutions.. I would love to see any resolution to sell KQ stock at KES 5 while they bought at KES 8.52.. Further the main banks can opt to buy out the leaner ones to stabilize the price.. These are not sheepish shareholders with no clue of what they are doing.. January is not far.. We await your prophesy to materialize

I wonder which of the banks were dumb enough to lend to KQ from 2012 onwards. A glance at the KQ thread in 2012 would have exposed the hole Naikuni and Mbugua were digging for KQ.

A prescient blogger had warned investors about KQ’s Rights scam.

DOA was the term used by the prescient blogger

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obiero
#9119 Posted : Monday, December 04, 2017 10:53:18 AM
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obiero wrote:
Spikes wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Spikes wrote:
obiero wrote:
the deal wrote:
obiero wrote:
1 trading day to lift-off.. Mark these words, minimum KES 8.52, maximum intra day KES 14. Fair value KES 12.5

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Obiero for the title of Supporter of the Year... KQ should give you free tickets

Hehe.. I accept the award


@obiero How do you value stocks? Fundamentals or speculative information?

Obiero is buy low sell high and move on

I have a mixture of both strategies but I prefer speculation based on inside knowledge via the exchange bar

Fair value KES 12.5 when factoring-in the Open Offer.. Now is absolutely the wrong time to sell and not the most opportune time to buy for existing shareholders.. Though existing shareholders with hearts of steel may accumulate sub KES 22

I am tempted to buy at current price but I shall exercise restraint. Expect a continuous trip upwards to KES 18 upto release of the Open Offer circular followed by a rapid fall down immediately afterwards.. How low it will go shall be anyone's guess, but mine remains KES 12.5


@ obiero today you've given solid analysis.
Keep the fire blazing.
Though kes 18 is a pipedream.

Let's talk about this same post on 08.12.2017

From where I stand, the pipedream is gaining momentum

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kayhara
#9120 Posted : Monday, December 04, 2017 11:02:29 AM
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obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
Spikes wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Spikes wrote:
obiero wrote:
the deal wrote:
obiero wrote:
1 trading day to lift-off.. Mark these words, minimum KES 8.52, maximum intra day KES 14. Fair value KES 12.5

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Obiero for the title of Supporter of the Year... KQ should give you free tickets

Hehe.. I accept the award


@obiero How do you value stocks? Fundamentals or speculative information?

Obiero is buy low sell high and move on

I have a mixture of both strategies but I prefer speculation based on inside knowledge via the exchange bar

Fair value KES 12.5 when factoring-in the Open Offer.. Now is absolutely the wrong time to sell and not the most opportune time to buy for existing shareholders.. Though existing shareholders with hearts of steel may accumulate sub KES 22

I am tempted to buy at current price but I shall exercise restraint. Expect a continuous trip upwards to KES 18 upto release of the Open Offer circular followed by a rapid fall down immediately afterwards.. How low it will go shall be anyone's guess, but mine remains KES 12.5


@ obiero today you've given solid analysis.
Keep the fire blazing.
Though kes 18 is a pipedream.

Let's talk about this same post on 08.12.2017

From where I stand, the pipedream is gaining momentum

Why is the price not shooting yet there is no supply, I will never understand KQ.
To Each His Own
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