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masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:BBC wrote:
European Union leaders have warned that the UK must honour the principle of free movement of people if it wants to retain access to the single market after it leaves the bloc.
European Council President Donald Tusk said the UK could not pick and choose.
The French and German leaders also made clear that the freedom of movement of EU citizens was non-negotiable
 This referendum is becoming irrelevant by the day For access to the common market... Lazima they accept The free movement of goods. The free movement of services and freedom of establishment. The free movement of persons (and citizenship), including free movement of workers. The free movement of capital. Kwa ufupi what they wanted to escape They should have opted to stay so that they can influence policy. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:BBC wrote:
European Union leaders have warned that the UK must honour the principle of free movement of people if it wants to retain access to the single market after it leaves the bloc.
European Council President Donald Tusk said the UK could not pick and choose.
The French and German leaders also made clear that the freedom of movement of EU citizens was non-negotiable
This referendum is becoming irrelevant by the day For access to the common market... Lazima they accept The free movement of goods. The free movement of services and freedom of establishment. The free movement of persons (and citizenship), including free movement of workers. The free movement of capital. Kwa ufupi what they wanted to escape They should have opted to stay so that they can influence policy. The elite don't want to let go.
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Anti_Burglar wrote:murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:BBC wrote:
European Union leaders have warned that the UK must honour the principle of free movement of people if it wants to retain access to the single market after it leaves the bloc.
European Council President Donald Tusk said the UK could not pick and choose.
The French and German leaders also made clear that the freedom of movement of EU citizens was non-negotiable
This referendum is becoming irrelevant by the day For access to the common market... Lazima they accept The free movement of goods. The free movement of services and freedom of establishment. The free movement of persons (and citizenship), including free movement of workers. The free movement of capital. Kwa ufupi what they wanted to escape They should have opted to stay so that they can influence policy. The elite don't want to let go. yeah - they are not as parochial as the working class. They can see the whole picture and how they stand to lose. not even a week later VodaCom and some Banks are toying with moving their HQs out of the UK. Mwamba ngoma huvuta pande yake! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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masukuma wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:BBC wrote:
European Union leaders have warned that the UK must honour the principle of free movement of people if it wants to retain access to the single market after it leaves the bloc.
European Council President Donald Tusk said the UK could not pick and choose.
The French and German leaders also made clear that the freedom of movement of EU citizens was non-negotiable
This referendum is becoming irrelevant by the day For access to the common market... Lazima they accept The free movement of goods. The free movement of services and freedom of establishment. The free movement of persons (and citizenship), including free movement of workers. The free movement of capital. Kwa ufupi what they wanted to escape They should have opted to stay so that they can influence policy. The elite don't want to let go. yeah - they are not as parochial as the working class. They can see the whole picture and how they stand to lose. not even a week later VodaCom and some Banks are toying with moving their HQs out of the UK. Mwamba ngoma huvuta pande yake! They are not democrats. They are the kind who force their opinions (even war) on you even if you don't want and there is nothing they want you to do about it. If you use the only thing you have (your vote) they still want to have their way. This is nothing to be happy and gloat about. In other continents they are called dictators.
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Anti_Burglar wrote:masukuma wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:BBC wrote:
European Union leaders have warned that the UK must honour the principle of free movement of people if it wants to retain access to the single market after it leaves the bloc.
European Council President Donald Tusk said the UK could not pick and choose.
The French and German leaders also made clear that the freedom of movement of EU citizens was non-negotiable
This referendum is becoming irrelevant by the day For access to the common market... Lazima they accept The free movement of goods. The free movement of services and freedom of establishment. The free movement of persons (and citizenship), including free movement of workers. The free movement of capital. Kwa ufupi what they wanted to escape They should have opted to stay so that they can influence policy. The elite don't want to let go. yeah - they are not as parochial as the working class. They can see the whole picture and how they stand to lose. not even a week later VodaCom and some Banks are toying with moving their HQs out of the UK. Mwamba ngoma huvuta pande yake! They are not democrats. They are the kind who force their opinions (even war) on you even if you don't want and there is nothing they want you to do about it. If you use the only thing you have (your vote) they still want to have their way. This is nothing to be happy and gloat about. In other continents they are called dictators. So you expect them to stand behind unreasonableness and watch their wealth and interests get hurt because of parochial interests? the truth is just like the law - democracy was made for man and not man for democracy. Ona interests kama hizi so huyo immigrant anatakiwa kurudi africa na mgani? All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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But, Maskums, they, the elite, will really not do much for most of the same EU members are also in NATO and they do not want to antagonize such a strong pillar of NATO. They all need NATO to knock sense into heads of renegade nations as they pursue their common wealth and interests. And the UN security council of which UK is a permanent member is already a closed club where they all meet and embrace again to authorise security expeditions to acquire wealth and pursue interests.
Perhaps this thing is all just hot air for us, me and you and the rest of the holloi polloi to nit pick over. Nothing much will change, vote or no vote. We are all being played!!!
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Anti_Burglar wrote:
But, Maskums, they, the elite, will really not do much for most of the same EU members are also in NATO and they do not want to antagonize such a strong pillar of NATO. They all need NATO to knock sense into heads of renegade nations as they pursue their common wealth and interests. And the UN security council of which UK is a permanent member is already a closed club where they all meet and embrace again to authorise security expeditions to acquire wealth and pursue interests.
Perhaps this thing is all just hot air for us, me and you and the rest of the holloi polloi to nit pick over. Nothing much will change, vote or no vote. We are all being played!!!
the world is not perfect. the pen of history is not yet out of ink! we are work in progress, everything is not how it is supposed to be. we need to distinguish outcome from intention. plus there is no such thing as 'elite' because it's a bell curve or a continuum. there are people at each segment - what you consider 'elite' is not what others consider 'elite'. do you know there is a guy somewhere in your shags who thinks you are the 'elite'? he will one day gather courage to ask you "your secret"... and ukiangalia you will notice you don't have "a secret". All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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masukuma wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:masukuma wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:BBC wrote:
European Union leaders have warned that the UK must honour the principle of free movement of people if it wants to retain access to the single market after it leaves the bloc.
European Council President Donald Tusk said the UK could not pick and choose.
The French and German leaders also made clear that the freedom of movement of EU citizens was non-negotiable
This referendum is becoming irrelevant by the day For access to the common market... Lazima they accept The free movement of goods. The free movement of services and freedom of establishment. The free movement of persons (and citizenship), including free movement of workers. The free movement of capital. Kwa ufupi what they wanted to escape They should have opted to stay so that they can influence policy. The elite don't want to let go. yeah - they are not as parochial as the working class. They can see the whole picture and how they stand to lose. not even a week later VodaCom and some Banks are toying with moving their HQs out of the UK. Mwamba ngoma huvuta pande yake! They are not democrats. They are the kind who force their opinions (even war) on you even if you don't want and there is nothing they want you to do about it. If you use the only thing you have (your vote) they still want to have their way. This is nothing to be happy and gloat about. In other continents they are called dictators. So you expect them to stand behind unreasonableness and watch their wealth and interests get hurt because of parochial interests? the truth is just like the law - democracy was made for man and not man for democracy. Ona interests kama hizi so huyo immigrant anatakiwa kurudi africa na mgani? Go back to Africa!! As one Kuria said "you come from ignorance" 
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just seen something on TwiRRa #postrefracism oh man!! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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masukuma wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:
But, Maskums, they, the elite, will really not do much for most of the same EU members are also in NATO and they do not want to antagonize such a strong pillar of NATO. They all need NATO to knock sense into heads of renegade nations as they pursue their common wealth and interests. And the UN security council of which UK is a permanent member is already a closed club where they all meet and embrace again to authorise security expeditions to acquire wealth and pursue interests.
Perhaps this thing is all just hot air for us, me and you and the rest of the holloi polloi to nit pick over. Nothing much will change, vote or no vote. We are all being played!!!
the world is not perfect. the pen of history is not yet out of ink! we are work in progress, everything is not how it is supposed to be. we need to distinguish outcome from intention. plus there is no such thing as 'elite' because it's a bell curve or a continuum. there are people at each segment - what you consider 'elite' is not what others consider 'elite'. do you know there is a guy somewhere in your shags who thinks you are the 'elite'? he will one day gather courage to ask you "your secret"... and ukiangalia you will notice you don't have "a secret". Hence itś our duty to make it accommodate all if we are indeed a work in progress and everything is not how it is supposed to be. If you are not an active participant in CFR, Trilateral Commission and such conspiratorial clubs where destiny of nations are decided wewe na wa ushago kwenu are holloi polloi. The outcomes we have all seen over the years where those resisting a certain clique of certain nations get destroyed should make their intentions clear even for you by now.
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Anti_Burglar wrote:masukuma wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:
But, Maskums, they, the elite, will really not do much for most of the same EU members are also in NATO and they do not want to antagonize such a strong pillar of NATO. They all need NATO to knock sense into heads of renegade nations as they pursue their common wealth and interests. And the UN security council of which UK is a permanent member is already a closed club where they all meet and embrace again to authorise security expeditions to acquire wealth and pursue interests.
Perhaps this thing is all just hot air for us, me and you and the rest of the holloi polloi to nit pick over. Nothing much will change, vote or no vote. We are all being played!!!
the world is not perfect. the pen of history is not yet out of ink! we are work in progress, everything is not how it is supposed to be. we need to distinguish outcome from intention. plus there is no such thing as 'elite' because it's a bell curve or a continuum. there are people at each segment - what you consider 'elite' is not what others consider 'elite'. do you know there is a guy somewhere in your shags who thinks you are the 'elite'? he will one day gather courage to ask you "your secret"... and ukiangalia you will notice you don't have "a secret". Hence itś our duty to make it accommodate all if we are indeed a work in progress and everything is not how it is supposed to be. If you are not an active participant in CFR, Trilateral Commission and such conspiratorial clubs where destiny of nations are decided wewe na wa ushago kwenu are holloi polloi. The outcomes we have all seen over the years where those resisting a certain clique of certain nations get destroyed should make their intentions clear even for you by now. once upon at time I was as cynical as you! I now live on the main line - i take on responsibility for my own development and my own faults. I don't look for faceless enemies that lurk in the darkness the CFR, Trilateral Commission or the Bilderbergers - I DON'T CARE! mainline is the only line for me. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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masukuma wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:masukuma wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:
But, Maskums, they, the elite, will really not do much for most of the same EU members are also in NATO and they do not want to antagonize such a strong pillar of NATO. They all need NATO to knock sense into heads of renegade nations as they pursue their common wealth and interests. And the UN security council of which UK is a permanent member is already a closed club where they all meet and embrace again to authorise security expeditions to acquire wealth and pursue interests.
Perhaps this thing is all just hot air for us, me and you and the rest of the holloi polloi to nit pick over. Nothing much will change, vote or no vote. We are all being played!!!
the world is not perfect. the pen of history is not yet out of ink! we are work in progress, everything is not how it is supposed to be. we need to distinguish outcome from intention. plus there is no such thing as 'elite' because it's a bell curve or a continuum. there are people at each segment - what you consider 'elite' is not what others consider 'elite'. do you know there is a guy somewhere in your shags who thinks you are the 'elite'? he will one day gather courage to ask you "your secret"... and ukiangalia you will notice you don't have "a secret". Hence itś our duty to make it accommodate all if we are indeed a work in progress and everything is not how it is supposed to be. If you are not an active participant in CFR, Trilateral Commission and such conspiratorial clubs where destiny of nations are decided wewe na wa ushago kwenu are holloi polloi. The outcomes we have all seen over the years where those resisting a certain clique of certain nations get destroyed should make their intentions clear even for you by now. once upon at time I was as cynical as you! I now live on the main line - i take on responsibility for my own development and my own faults. I don't look for faceless enemies that lurk in the darkness the CFR, Trilateral Commission or the Bilderbergers - I DON'T CARE! mainline is the only line for me. I'm glad to note you understand my position. Let others also take responsibility of their own developments whether they want to exit some union or not. You do not have to care for them to be discussed by them. Sample this: What is the current CIA director doing testifying before the CFR that "the Brexit vote will not adversely affect the intelligence partnership between the United States and the United Kingdom in the months and years ahead". What are they doing discussing third parties who are not even invited to that meeting? You do not have to care, they will still discuss you, decide and implement a few things for you, the holloi polloi. CFR Events: Central Intelligence Agency Director John O. Brennan John Brennan on Transnational Threats to "Global Security". June 29, 2016
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Anti_Burglar wrote:masukuma wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:masukuma wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:
But, Maskums, they, the elite, will really not do much for most of the same EU members are also in NATO and they do not want to antagonize such a strong pillar of NATO. They all need NATO to knock sense into heads of renegade nations as they pursue their common wealth and interests. And the UN security council of which UK is a permanent member is already a closed club where they all meet and embrace again to authorise security expeditions to acquire wealth and pursue interests.
Perhaps this thing is all just hot air for us, me and you and the rest of the holloi polloi to nit pick over. Nothing much will change, vote or no vote. We are all being played!!!
the world is not perfect. the pen of history is not yet out of ink! we are work in progress, everything is not how it is supposed to be. we need to distinguish outcome from intention. plus there is no such thing as 'elite' because it's a bell curve or a continuum. there are people at each segment - what you consider 'elite' is not what others consider 'elite'. do you know there is a guy somewhere in your shags who thinks you are the 'elite'? he will one day gather courage to ask you "your secret"... and ukiangalia you will notice you don't have "a secret". Hence itś our duty to make it accommodate all if we are indeed a work in progress and everything is not how it is supposed to be. If you are not an active participant in CFR, Trilateral Commission and such conspiratorial clubs where destiny of nations are decided wewe na wa ushago kwenu are holloi polloi. The outcomes we have all seen over the years where those resisting a certain clique of certain nations get destroyed should make their intentions clear even for you by now. once upon at time I was as cynical as you! I now live on the main line - i take on responsibility for my own development and my own faults. I don't look for faceless enemies that lurk in the darkness the CFR, Trilateral Commission or the Bilderbergers - I DON'T CARE! mainline is the only line for me. I'm glad to note you understand my position. Let others also take responsibility of their own developments whether they want to exit some union or not. You do not have to care for them to be discussed by them. Sample this: What is the current CIA director doing testifying before the CFR that "the Brexit vote will not adversely affect the intelligence partnership between the United States and the United Kingdom in the months and years ahead". What are they doing discussing third parties who are not even invited to that meeting? You do not have to care, they will still discuss you, decide and implement a few things for you, the holloi polloi. CFR Events: Central Intelligence Agency Director John O. Brennan John Brennan on Transnational Threats to "Global Security". June 29, 2016 I am sure you have come across the joke married men tell each other when asked why they have been happily married for a long period of time. The joke goes something like this. Quote:
I once asked an elderly neighbor how he had a happy marriage. He and his wife had been married more than 50 years. He replied, "Oh, my dear, it’s really very simple. My wife and I agreed long ago that I’d make all the big decisions and she’d make all the little decisions. And in all these years together, there just haven’t been any big decisions.
So me i decided to be the 'wife' in this whole saga. I make small decisions.. I don't decide whether the oil in Syria is to be used to fund ISIL! or related 'big decisions'. I just stick to small decisions - how can I make money today. where can I school my kids. What will I do this weekend. I decided to let smart people figure out the big decisions these days - Wewe, @Alph (check out how I dragged him into this ), the Rothchild family, the Bilderbergers, CIA, CFR or even Trilateral Commission can decide the rest. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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masukuma wrote:So me i decided to be the 'wife' in this whole saga. I make small decisions.. I don't decide whether the oil in Syria is to be used to fund ISIL! or related 'big decisions'. I just stick to small decisions - how can I make money today. where can I school my kids. What will I do this weekend. I decided to let smart people figure out the big decisions these days. Wewe, @Alph (check out how I dragged him into this ), the Rothchild family, the Bilderbergers, CIA, CFR or even Trilateral Commission. That is a wise choice you make and that is why I said earlier that we are being played. Nothing will ever change. The status quo is well set and no vote will ever overturn it. We, the holloi polloi are being made to scrutinise and debate things like Brexit that we really have no control over to keep us "busy". I think I am done chewing this bone this so will exit this exercise. By the way, its no harm (or no advantage) to be informed about these things but its sad to be unaware about your society and environment.
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Meet Britain's new Prime Minister. Theresa May. 
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Sad that in the world's oldest democracy, wananchi are not allowed to vote for their prime minister. Rather greedy mpigs sit in a dark corner and decide for the people. #DarkForces
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Madam Prime Minister and the First"lady". 
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hardwood wrote:Sad that in the world's oldest democracy, wananchi are not allowed to vote for their prime minister. Rather greedy mpigs sit in a dark corner and decide for the people. #DarkForces Very good option to avoid the stupid tyranny of fake tribes. Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Impunity wrote:hardwood wrote:Sad that in the world's oldest democracy, wananchi are not allowed to vote for their prime minister. Rather greedy mpigs sit in a dark corner and decide for the people. #DarkForces Very good option to avoid the stupid tyranny of fake tribes. Look at your parliament and consider your comment again. And why has Britain not had a black PM? Why only 2 female PMs?
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Impunity wrote:hardwood wrote:Sad that in the world's oldest democracy, wananchi are not allowed to vote for their prime minister. Rather greedy mpigs sit in a dark corner and decide for the people. #DarkForces Very good option to avoid the stupid tyranny of fake tribes. That is why baba wants us to change our katiba so that Jakoyo Midiwo, Nyongo and Co. can sit at a corner over some omena and make him prime minister. http://www.the-star.co.k...r-position-back_c1362498
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