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T-bill advise
Angelica _ann
#161 Posted : Thursday, November 05, 2015 11:43:04 AM
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maka wrote:
Impunity wrote:
jerry wrote:
Swenani wrote:
cnn wrote:
I see 83 billion was thrown at CBK in yesterdays auction and they took only 14.6 billion bringing the 364 and 182 day rates down to 17.1% and 16.4% respectively,that party seems to be coming to an end at least for now.The 91 day in today's auction may well see the rate go below 15%.


So Wailer was right when he said the Interest rate hike was just temporary and things will stabilize in the next three months

If experts couldn't see it that way (rates going down) then we can say there was a design (& a designer) with a motive?


MONEYPULATION of Interest Rates, SURELY!!!!



Without a doubt....

They will eat the syndicated loan & start crying again soon!
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pops
#162 Posted : Thursday, November 05, 2015 7:34:21 PM
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lets see how fast your bank reduces its rates!
pops
#163 Posted : Thursday, November 05, 2015 7:35:27 PM
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lets see how fast the banks reduces their commercial rates! probably in 1 year. I can see banks reporting good profits this year!
obiero
#164 Posted : Thursday, November 05, 2015 7:50:47 PM
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maka wrote:
Impunity wrote:
jerry wrote:
Swenani wrote:
cnn wrote:
I see 83 billion was thrown at CBK in yesterdays auction and they took only 14.6 billion bringing the 364 and 182 day rates down to 17.1% and 16.4% respectively,that party seems to be coming to an end at least for now.The 91 day in today's auction may well see the rate go below 15%.


So Wailer was right when he said the Interest rate hike was just temporary and things will stabilize in the next three months

If experts couldn't see it that way (rates going down) then we can say there was a design (& a designer) with a motive?


MONEYPULATION of Interest Rates, SURELY!!!!



Without a doubt....

@the exchange bar as we speak and it is confirmed that indeed there was a game in play. a big boys game where looted cash is now invested back into t-bills. only in Kenya

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
maka
#165 Posted : Thursday, November 05, 2015 8:07:54 PM
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Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
Impunity wrote:
jerry wrote:
Swenani wrote:
cnn wrote:
I see 83 billion was thrown at CBK in yesterdays auction and they took only 14.6 billion bringing the 364 and 182 day rates down to 17.1% and 16.4% respectively,that party seems to be coming to an end at least for now.The 91 day in today's auction may well see the rate go below 15%.


So Wailer was right when he said the Interest rate hike was just temporary and things will stabilize in the next three months

If experts couldn't see it that way (rates going down) then we can say there was a design (& a designer) with a motive?


MONEYPULATION of Interest Rates, SURELY!!!!



Without a doubt....

@the exchange bar as we speak and it is confirmed that indeed there was a game in play. a big boys game where looted cash is now invested back into t-bills. only in Kenya


Ati 91 day checked in @ 13%?d'oh!
possunt quia posse videntur
obiero
#166 Posted : Thursday, November 05, 2015 8:37:49 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,501
Location: nairobi
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
Impunity wrote:
jerry wrote:
Swenani wrote:
cnn wrote:
I see 83 billion was thrown at CBK in yesterdays auction and they took only 14.6 billion bringing the 364 and 182 day rates down to 17.1% and 16.4% respectively,that party seems to be coming to an end at least for now.The 91 day in today's auction may well see the rate go below 15%.


So Wailer was right when he said the Interest rate hike was just temporary and things will stabilize in the next three months

If experts couldn't see it that way (rates going down) then we can say there was a design (& a designer) with a motive?


MONEYPULATION of Interest Rates, SURELY!!!!



Without a doubt....

@the exchange bar as we speak and it is confirmed that indeed there was a game in play. a big boys game where looted cash is now invested back into t-bills. only in Kenya


Ati 91 day checked in @ 13%?d'oh!

The big kahunas have already done what needed to be done.. Steal taxpayers money at zero initial cost and obtain interest at 22% on the swindled funds.. Mugabe was onto something when he dismissed us. On the brighter side, as per Graham's law, with a steady fall in t-bill rates, the NSE shall inch upwards correspondingly

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
enyands
#167 Posted : Thursday, November 05, 2015 9:40:51 PM
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obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
Impunity wrote:
jerry wrote:
Swenani wrote:
cnn wrote:
I see 83 billion was thrown at CBK in yesterdays auction and they took only 14.6 billion bringing the 364 and 182 day rates down to 17.1% and 16.4% respectively,that party seems to be coming to an end at least for now.The 91 day in today's auction may well see the rate go below 15%.


So Wailer was right when he said the Interest rate hike was just temporary and things will stabilize in the next three months

If experts couldn't see it that way (rates going down) then we can say there was a design (& a designer) with a motive?


MONEYPULATION of Interest Rates, SURELY!!!!



Without a doubt....

@the exchange bar as we speak and it is confirmed that indeed there was a game in play. a big boys game where looted cash is now invested back into t-bills. only in Kenya


Ati 91 day checked in @ 13%?d'oh!

The big kahunas have already done what needed to be done.. Steal taxpayers money at zero initial cost and obtain interest at 22% on the swindled funds.. Mugabe was onto something when he dismissed us. On the brighter side, as per Graham's law, with a steady fall in t-bill rates, the NSE shall inch upwards correspondingly


Mugabe said there is a bachelor of stealing taught in our university .Laughing out loudly this guy can be funny
streetwise
#168 Posted : Friday, November 06, 2015 8:26:35 AM
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Posts: 1,740
Location: Nairobi
SOOO this thing was just manipulation of the rates for some guys to lock in huge profits from stolen money.

Talk of hiring a thief to guard a bank fault.

What went wrong in Kenya, a case study of corruption and abundant theft of National resources
Ericsson
#169 Posted : Friday, November 06, 2015 8:33:37 AM
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Money was stolen from coffers and used to buy the short term treasury bills.
Upon maturity the principal amount will be returned while interest will be pocketed.
manipulation manipulation
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Impunity
#170 Posted : Friday, November 06, 2015 9:10:12 AM
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Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 26,328
Location: Masada
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
Impunity wrote:
jerry wrote:
Swenani wrote:
cnn wrote:
I see 83 billion was thrown at CBK in yesterdays auction and they took only 14.6 billion bringing the 364 and 182 day rates down to 17.1% and 16.4% respectively,that party seems to be coming to an end at least for now.The 91 day in today's auction may well see the rate go below 15%.


So Wailer was right when he said the Interest rate hike was just temporary and things will stabilize in the next three months

If experts couldn't see it that way (rates going down) then we can say there was a design (& a designer) with a motive?


MONEYPULATION of Interest Rates, SURELY!!!!



Without a doubt....

@the exchange bar as we speak and it is confirmed that indeed there was a game in play. a big boys game where looted cash is now invested back into t-bills. only in Kenya


Ati 91 day checked in @ 13%?d'oh!

The big kahunas have already done what needed to be done.. Steal taxpayers money at zero initial cost and obtain interest at 22% on the swindled funds.. Mugabe was onto something when he dismissed us. On the brighter side, as per Graham's law, with a steady fall in t-bill rates, the NSE shall inch upwards correspondingly


Why hasn't CBK uploaded the auction results of last week's 91 Day result?
Where are people getting this 13%?
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

kasibitta
#171 Posted : Friday, November 06, 2015 9:12:26 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
Money was stolen from coffers and used to buy the short term treasury bills.
Upon maturity the principal amount will be returned while interest will be pocketed.
manipulation manipulation


Sad Sad Sad
Impunity
#172 Posted : Friday, November 06, 2015 9:13:22 AM
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Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 26,328
Location: Masada
Ericsson wrote:
Money was stolen from coffers and used to buy the short term treasury bills.
Upon maturity the principal amount will be returned while interest will be pocketed.
manipulation manipulation


I called it MONEYPULATION just yesterday...it has come out as true!
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

KulaRaha
#173 Posted : Friday, November 06, 2015 9:15:26 AM
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CBK fixing rates ahead of KBRR reset in January. Its all politics, zero economics.
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
mwekez@ji
#174 Posted : Friday, November 06, 2015 9:19:36 AM
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Posts: 5,121
KulaRaha wrote:
CBK fixing rates ahead of KBRR reset in January. Its all politics, zero economics.

KBRR is a useless thing. With the bank's loan interest rate function being KBRR + K, banks are controlling the interest rates via the variable K.
KulaRaha
#175 Posted : Friday, November 06, 2015 9:38:27 AM
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Posts: 6,514
mwekez@ji wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
CBK fixing rates ahead of KBRR reset in January. Its all politics, zero economics.

KBRR is a useless thing. With the bank's loan interest rate function being KBRR + K, banks are controlling the interest rates via the variable K.


Yeah, but if you keep KBRR stable, then you can blame the banks for the current high rates. Economics via politics.
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
instinct
#176 Posted : Friday, November 06, 2015 9:40:28 AM
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Why hasn't CBK uploaded the auction results of last week's 91 Day result?
Where are people getting this 13%?
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sparkly
#177 Posted : Friday, November 06, 2015 9:42:04 AM
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Impunity wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Money was stolen from coffers and used to buy the short term treasury bills.
Upon maturity the principal amount will be returned while interest will be pocketed.
manipulation manipulation


I called MONEYPULATION just yesterday...it has come oout as true!


Let's wait and see which banks will have a huge spike in GOK paper holdings
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maka
#178 Posted : Friday, November 06, 2015 9:57:26 AM
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instinct wrote:


Why hasn't CBK uploaded the auction results of last week's 91 Day result?
Where are people getting this 13%?


There are people in Wazua who know people!
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13.7369% Thereabout....
possunt quia posse videntur
mwekez@ji
#179 Posted : Friday, November 06, 2015 10:05:43 AM
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Joined: 5/31/2011
Posts: 5,121
KulaRaha wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
CBK fixing rates ahead of KBRR reset in January. Its all politics, zero economics.

KBRR is a useless thing. With the bank's loan interest rate function being KBRR + K, banks are controlling the interest rates via the variable K.


Yeah, but if you keep KBRR stable, then you can blame the banks for the current high rates. Economics via politics.


Agreed. Zero economics as you say.
Impunity
#180 Posted : Friday, November 06, 2015 10:17:15 AM
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sparkly wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Money was stolen from coffers and used to buy the short term treasury bills.
Upon maturity the principal amount will be returned while interest will be pocketed.
manipulation manipulation


I called MONEYPULATION just yesterday...it has come oout as true!


Let's wait and see which banks will have a huge spike in GOK paper holdings


StanChart I suppose!
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

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