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TAZ
#81 Posted : Thursday, November 14, 2013 1:06:21 PM
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McReggae wrote:
TAZ wrote:
@Mc Reggae....I'm sure you heard what Duale had to say about that yesterday and why they ditched ODM.



Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly If that man ever becomes my reference!!!!


Its quite interesting how you and some CORD fellows now want to know who fixed Ruto yet a couple of months ago you were seemed sure that the evidence against him was concrete enough for a conviction......sasa unakubali he was fixed? I really can't wait for UK's case to start, i hope it doesn't get deferred. I would want to hear who fixed him now that we've established there was "fixing".

Btw Khan has not said its true or not, infact he doesn't even want to be caught in the middle of all the hullabaloo on who fixed who........he was Muthaura's lawyer remember, the guy probably knows more about the case than his own client!

“There’s no cause to apologise. As a Queen’s Counsel, I know my responsibility. In due course, it will of course be for the independent, impartial and experienced judges of the ICC to determine the merit of defence submissions and to evaluate the evidence presented by the parties appearing before it...It is not appropriate to engage in collateral litigation through the press. All should allow the ICC the space to do its job. If that is done, we are confident that justice will be done."
Caramba
#82 Posted : Thursday, November 14, 2013 1:06:45 PM
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Duale: Keter was drunk when he made these claims.

Keter: Those who think i was drunk when i made this statement need psychiatric treatment.

Bring in the popcorn.
MKWASI
#83 Posted : Thursday, November 14, 2013 1:06:58 PM
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Ve never seen Reformers this Happy.....They are all over waiting for the hand, their appetite is big - the hand is mouth watering.

My perspective is quite different. The individuals that are doing the coaching are doing an excellent job. Their initial objective was to take two individual to the far country before the election and hence easily win an election...It almost happened...just almost. Now the strategy has shifted. The objective now is to separate the two individuals at all cost their eyes are on 2017. Their arsenal, one to accuse the other then one being prosecuted and one being left free... Will the coaching succeed?? only time will tell.
Pedes
#84 Posted : Thursday, November 14, 2013 1:22:06 PM
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All these fixation on fixing is meant for the gallery. It is the latest narrative. The'll be more to come.
If you stay ready, no need to get ready.
madollar
#85 Posted : Thursday, November 14, 2013 1:34:08 PM
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Assuming that keter is right then he has taken the wrong approach this could have been done behind the curtains and uhuru being a resonable man a solution could have been found .Sacking iringo is not an option now or in the near future as the president would look like a puppet controlled by the rift politicians
Impunity
#86 Posted : Thursday, November 14, 2013 2:09:27 PM
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McReggae wrote:
TAZ wrote:
McReggae wrote:
TAZ wrote:
McReggae wrote:
TAZ wrote:
I'll say it again, Ruto's camp want to get rid of certain individuals within the govt who they think would cause problems for the DP.....they started with Kimemia sasa ni Iringo and Gitau. Remember UK inherited those three from the previous govt, he's probably thinking of how he's going to replace them.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly How now????


Akina Muthaura,Iringo, Gitau and Kimemia were very powerful people in Kibaki's govt, i don't think WR's handlers are comfortable with some of them still holding powerful positions in the Jubilee govt.....hii mambo ya ICC is just an opportunity that has presented itself.


Aha, so lawyer Khan has been saying the truth until now......SMH!!!!


Khan is a lawyer not a politician, he's also not a witness so hakuna mambo ya whether he's been saying the truth or not. He's there to protect the interests of his client as he did with Muthaura, so far he's done a brilliant job.


You keep skirting the issue at hand, mara ni siasa, mara they are powerful.......who fixed Ruto????


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Impunity
#87 Posted : Thursday, November 14, 2013 2:19:24 PM
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TAZ wrote:
Rao did not fix anyone, he's just an opportunist who tried to use ICC to get rid of his political rivals......unfortunately it worked against him, kawaida ya fisi!


Finally the mountaineers have seen the TRUTH.
Phew!!!!
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McReggae
#88 Posted : Thursday, November 14, 2013 2:20:01 PM
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Location: Nairobi
TAZ wrote:
McReggae wrote:
TAZ wrote:
@Mc Reggae....I'm sure you heard what Duale had to say about that yesterday and why they ditched ODM.



Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly If that man ever becomes my reference!!!!


Its quite interesting how you and some CORD fellows now want to know who fixed Ruto yet a couple of months ago you were seemed sure that the evidence against him was concrete enough for a conviction......sasa unakubali he was fixed? I really can't wait for UK's case to start, i hope it doesn't get deferred. I would want to hear who fixed him now that we've established there was "fixing".

Btw Khan has not said its true or not, infact he doesn't even want to be caught in the middle of all the hullabaloo on who fixed who........he was Muthaura's lawyer remember, the guy probably knows more about the case than his own client!

“There’s no cause to apologise. As a Queen’s Counsel, I know my responsibility. In due course, it will of course be for the independent, impartial and experienced judges of the ICC to determine the merit of defence submissions and to evaluate the evidence presented by the parties appearing before it...It is not appropriate to engage in collateral litigation through the press. All should allow the ICC the space to do its job. If that is done, we are confident that justice will be done."


Why do you want to bring CORD in a matter squarely chubiree.....if I give evidence against you, haven't I FIXED YOU???? Of cause we told Ruto who fixed but he 1st wanted power so ailielie sana!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
TAZ
#89 Posted : Thursday, November 14, 2013 2:53:11 PM
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McReggae wrote:

Why do you want to bring CORD in a matter squarely chubiree.....if I give evidence against you, haven't I FIXED YOU???? Of cause we told Ruto who fixed but he 1st wanted power so ailielie sana!!!!


Try telling that to Midiwo and Orengo. Btw the initial fall-out between RAO and Ruto was not about ICC, their problems started immediately after the PEV in 2008. Besides RAO is the same person who's been going round the globe telling everyone that Uhuruto are criminals and that they ought to be arrested. How can you now claim ati you told Ruto who fixed him yet you've been sure all along that the guy is guilty, are you now trying to say he's innocent?
Njung'e
#90 Posted : Thursday, November 14, 2013 3:06:43 PM
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Posts: 11,935
Location: Nairobi
TAZ wrote:
McReggae wrote:

W[color=red]h!!!!


Try telling that to Midiwo and Orengo. Btw the initial fall-out between RAO and Ruto was not about ICC, their problems started immediately after the PEV in 2008. Besides RAO is the same person who's been going round the globe telling everyone that Uhuruto are criminals and that they ought to be arrested. How can you now claim ati you told Ruto who fixed him yet you've been sure all along that the guy is guilty, are you now trying to say he's innocent?


You are telling that to stones.....Wait!.Did you see how they were frothing in parliament over the same?.I have always said it here.Hyenas waiting for the arm to fall.....Is it not clearer now?.The problem is,it's to a simple and a thoughtless approach to leadership.Seriously,if you are to pray to your God and ask for a favour,you can't pray for mgongo wazi)smile
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