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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/1/2008 Posts: 1,432 Location: Marsabit
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Wa_ithaka wrote:After 2007 GE, RAO was told to take his complaints to court. He has done that and we should be grateful that he has listened. I agree with you @Wa_ithaka He's simply doing what is right and provided for by the law Nevermind what haters say, ignore them til they fade away - Just live your life
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/27/2011 Posts: 1,777
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2012 wrote:josiah33 wrote:2012 wrote:xyzee wrote:@Wendz
the court may then nulify the basis through which the 50% threashold was
met and may rule that the declaration of a 1st round win was not constitutional hence a runoff and not repeat election. Wendz is right. If the other presidential candidates decide to reverse their decisions (I don't think they will) then they will have to be included. More critically is, if the verdict is that IEBC failed, would the same questionable IEBC carry out the repeat elections/run-off? I don't think so. We would need to form a tribunal to investigate their conduct first as per the requirement of the constitution when dealing with an independent office. Now this would take months! Kibaki must be one lucky guy...........everything conspiring to keep him in office for as long as possible. I don't think so. I strongly believe he would like to leave that office soonest. He has nothing more to prove or gain and he genuinely looks exhausted plus he's going to a life of pure luxury. Maybe u are right there....if i were in his shoes i'd be looking forward for that life of pure luxury in retirement.... 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/27/2011 Posts: 1,777
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McReggae wrote:Wa_ithaka wrote:After 2007 GE, RAO was told to take his complaints to court. He has done that and we should be grateful that he has listened. Seems Raila remains the biggest driver of traffic in wazua!!!! Case to be covered live!!! That would be great.....TV viewing is becoming more and more interesting as days go by....
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/19/2008 Posts: 4,268
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Magigi wrote:Wendz wrote:I dont know if this is as light as we are taking it. Look at it this way. Raila, in his petition, claims there are places in his strongholds where the number of registered voters were reduced and added to his opponents strongholds. If this is true, then wouldn't it mean that those MPs, governors, senators etc in those affected areas were also elected "fraudulently" to use someone's word .... Now, if the whole IEBC process was "flawed", then, does it mean that we would have to repeat the whole thing again? The senators, WR, CR, governors - the whole works? Is there a possibility of other candidates coming out to claim they were also "rigged" out based on the outcome of the case? What would be the implications of only calling for presidential recounting/re-run and not the others or calling for a whole general 're-election"? Someone educate us. Hi Wendz...Good thinking. B ut do we close our eyes as if nothing happened and pretend all is well and move on, wait for the next election with the same faulty electronic system and ill-trained IT guys? What should we do? For me it is good to tackle these issues and even if the court sees it too expensive and time consuming they should say so but point out the key areas that need to be improved, and chief among them would be firing the whole IEBC team. They duped Kenyans. My two cents! @magigi. Nope. Was just wondering what we are staring at. The magnitude of the decisions that we will see and implications of such decisions. @2012 & xyzee, insightful. Thanks guys @mcrg - he is the PM. The second in command after president. It's understandable. When i heard George Oraro is one of the lawyers, i knew we are in for a very interesting two weeks ahead!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/19/2008 Posts: 4,268
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josiah33 wrote:2012 wrote:josiah33 wrote:2012 wrote:xyzee wrote:@Wendz
the court may then nulify the basis through which the 50% threashold was
met and may rule that the declaration of a 1st round win was not constitutional hence a runoff and not repeat election. Wendz is right. If the other presidential candidates decide to reverse their decisions (I don't think they will) then they will have to be included. More critically is, if the verdict is that IEBC failed, would the same questionable IEBC carry out the repeat elections/run-off? I don't think so. We would need to form a tribunal to investigate their conduct first as per the requirement of the constitution when dealing with an independent office. Now this would take months! Kibaki must be one lucky guy...........everything conspiring to keep him in office for as long as possible. I don't think so. I strongly believe he would like to leave that office soonest. He has nothing more to prove or gain and he genuinely looks exhausted plus he's going to a life of pure luxury. Maybe u are right there....if i were in his shoes i'd be looking forward for that life of pure luxury in retirement.... It's like filling in your leave form and the boss puts it under the pile of papers and tells you "we need to discuss". You don't know if to pay for your holiday, to book your transport, if to tell the kids about the holiday(considering how they get excited and anxious), if to get your spouse to fill their leave forms too(if working) or to make further orders of the business supplies.... NKT! Doesn't sound like he'd be enjoying to be in that state.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/27/2011 Posts: 1,777
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Wendz wrote:josiah33 wrote:2012 wrote:josiah33 wrote:2012 wrote:xyzee wrote:@Wendz
the court may then nulify the basis through which the 50% threashold was
met and may rule that the declaration of a 1st round win was not constitutional hence a runoff and not repeat election. Wendz is right. If the other presidential candidates decide to reverse their decisions (I don't think they will) then they will have to be included. More critically is, if the verdict is that IEBC failed, would the same questionable IEBC carry out the repeat elections/run-off? I don't think so. We would need to form a tribunal to investigate their conduct first as per the requirement of the constitution when dealing with an independent office. Now this would take months! Kibaki must be one lucky guy...........everything conspiring to keep him in office for as long as possible. I don't think so. I strongly believe he would like to leave that office soonest. He has nothing more to prove or gain and he genuinely looks exhausted plus he's going to a life of pure luxury. Maybe u are right there....if i were in his shoes i'd be looking forward for that life of pure luxury in retirement.... It's like filling in your leave form and the boss puts it under the pile of papers and tells you "we need to discuss". You don't know if to pay for your holiday, to book your transport, if to tell the kids about the holiday(considering how they get excited and anxious), if to get your spouse to fill their leave forms too(if working) or to make further orders of the business supplies.... NKT! Doesn't sound like he'd be enjoying to be in that state. Very true.....
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/6/2008 Posts: 3,590
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josiah33 wrote:McReggae wrote:Wa_ithaka wrote:After 2007 GE, RAO was told to take his complaints to court. He has done that and we should be grateful that he has listened. Seems Raila remains the biggest driver of traffic in wazua!!!! Case to be covered live!!! That would be great.....TV viewing is becoming more and more interesting as days go by.... Then IG should conclude any crowds going to mill supreme court around town are planning/scavaging for chaos and should use fimbo accordingly, agreed? This could turn out to be a new channel to unleash chaos if not properly managed. Ras Kienyeji Man
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/27/2011 Posts: 1,777
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Much Know wrote:josiah33 wrote:McReggae wrote:Wa_ithaka wrote:After 2007 GE, RAO was told to take his complaints to court. He has done that and we should be grateful that he has listened. Seems Raila remains the biggest driver of traffic in wazua!!!! Case to be covered live!!! That would be great.....TV viewing is becoming more and more interesting as days go by.... Then IG should conclude any crowds going to mill supreme court around town are planning/scavaging for chaos and should use fimbo accordingly, agreed? This could turn out to be a new channel to unleash chaos if not properly managed. U mean- rule in our favour or we take to the streets?
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/8/2007 Posts: 808
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I think RAO is right to go to court. I am very interested to get more details about how as RAO alleges the IEBC bungled the elections.
For starters I don't believe an iota in the collapsed ICT system. I actually believe it was deliberately set up to fail and largely a facade and would therefore would be interested in knowing what happened to the 9B spent. Did anyone notice when we were registering we used a different device to capture all finger prints (simmilar to those used at KAA airports) and when we went to vote the device in use was an index finger print reader like the one used by medical insurance provider for identification at hospitals. I am familiar with the software that runs these identifiers and you can't do the interchange IEBC was attempting. It struck me as odd when I found a different device on the polling day. Unless the device was to capture new finger prints on the day.
It's late in the day but I would like our institutions to remain impartial and above reproach. I personally have serious misgivings about IEBC not because of presidential tallies but how they have conducted themselves since they went into office. Procurement scandals and issues to me reek of corruption!
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/26/2009 Posts: 326 Location: Nairobi
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RAO is more calculating than some comments portray him. It is not about IEBC, voter register this and that.... its about ICC.
Sample this:
- Case will be decided in 14 days time, circa 25thMar.
- The decision could be a re-run in 60 days meaning end of May...
- Just in time for Ruto's trial at ICC.
RAO has a game plan. remember he is a politician.
One thing that could work to his disadvantage is some of his lawyers. Most of them are NOT only Lawyers BUT ALSO politicians. That combination knows too well the buttered side of the cake.
Besides, some of those guys cant wait to chart their own political destiny...you know who.
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