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Impunity wrote:harrydre wrote:washiku wrote:Ndung'u Wainaina to file a fresh petition at the Supreme Court immediately it will be thrown out even without looking at it Who is paying this Wainaina? 'm sure sio Tinga. The way he is running from court to court like a headless chicken. He is obviously on someones payroll. Apparently the downpayment was given with firm instructions and an agreement that the balance will be paid only after the success of the job. 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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Impunity wrote:harrydre wrote:washiku wrote:Ndung'u Wainaina to file a fresh petition at the Supreme Court immediately it will be thrown out even without looking at it Who is paying this Wainaina? 'm sure sio Tinga. he could be targeting few acres of land along Thika Rd. People know how to mint and print especially during an election year. i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/26/2009 Posts: 326 Location: Nairobi
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:quicksand wrote:Foreboding precedent? Cause hiyo Chapter 6 sasa is not worth the paper its written on. Last nail driven into its coffin home and true .... I am also extremely disappointed. So what does this chapter 6 say, my thinking is that it would apply in this UHURUTO case. We can't then claim to have a progressive constitution since in the west, anyone with the kind of personal problem that UK does would not be allowed to join the queue at a burger joint, in china they would have been hanged 1 day after waki released the envelope and in japan, he would have been required to commit sepukku to save face. Harakirri. In Kenya we performitto the opponent, not on oneself. Wait for March 4.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/25/2011 Posts: 2,103 Location: Nrb
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So we have people running Amok, that chapter 6 has not been applied. Let us be honest with ourselves,if chapter 6 were to be applied to the letter, which politician would survive?. So if they had barred Uhuruto from running,that would have been the measure of how katiba works ?Saa zingiine tuache kujifanya. No one is being fixed by chapter 6, tukutaneni kwa debe Jubilee oyee ! I am happy
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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quicksand wrote:
Yes, this is exactly what I am saying ....this is the courts interpreting it. Today's decrees will enter the statute books as case law (..I think) and the cornerstones of how Chapter 6 will be interpreted from this point going forward are being laid.
Simply said - if you have not been convicted, the question of having or not having integrity, is irrelevant.
High court did not clear Uhuruto. They said that is the duty of Supreme Court, IEBC and EACC.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/19/2010 Posts: 1,308 Location: nairobi metropolitan
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Amores wrote:So we have people running Amok, that chapter 6 has not been applied.
Let us be honest with ourselves,if chapter 6 were to be applied to the letter, which politician would survive?.
So if they had barred Uhuruto from running,that would have been the measure of how katiba works ?Saa zingiine tuache kujifanya.
No one is being fixed by chapter 6, tukutaneni kwa debe
Jubilee oyee !
the good thing is that the ngos have been ordered to pay costs, i doubt with that, the so called Wainaina will proceed with the case, i think it is pretty clear they don't have a chance of success. Democracy does not belong to the dead
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/18/2009 Posts: 316 Location: nairobi
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Amores wrote:So we have people running Amok, that chapter 6 has not been applied.
Let us be honest with ourselves,if chapter 6 were to be applied to the letter, which politician would survive?.
So if they had barred Uhuruto from running,that would have been the measure of how katiba works ?Saa zingiine tuache kujifanya.
No one is being fixed by chapter 6, tukutaneni kwa debe
Jubilee oyee !
I love your enthusiasm.....unwavering.. God loves a Trier!
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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Lolest! wrote:quicksand wrote:
Yes, this is exactly what I am saying ....this is the courts interpreting it. Today's decrees will enter the statute books as case law (..I think) and the cornerstones of how Chapter 6 will be interpreted from this point going forward are being laid.
Simply said - if you have not been convicted, the question of having or not having integrity, is irrelevant.
High court did not clear Uhuruto. They said that is the duty of Supreme Court, IEBC and EACC. That they should not do IEBC's work unless its demonstrated that IEBC is unable to do it!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/5/2010 Posts: 2,061 Location: Nairobi
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Lolest! wrote:quicksand wrote:
Yes, this is exactly what I am saying ....this is the courts interpreting it. Today's decrees will enter the statute books as case law (..I think) and the cornerstones of how Chapter 6 will be interpreted from this point going forward are being laid.
Simply said - if you have not been convicted, the question of having or not having integrity, is irrelevant.
High court did not clear Uhuruto. They said that is the duty of Supreme Court, IEBC and EACC. True, they did not clear Uhuruto. However, they made some observations and I will quote here from the Daily Nation Quote:
Further, the court ruled that it would be prejudicial to the rights of Mr Kenyatta's The National Alliance (TNA) and voters to bar him from contesting the presidency
The court said that while Mr Kenyatta and Mr Ruto were facing crimes against humanity charges at the International Criminal Court (ICC), they had not been convicted of any crimes
The presumption of innocence serves not only to protect the rights of the accused but to maintain public confidence in courts
I presume those pronouncements were not made in vain, that is why I referred to them as 'decrees'. A lot of legal interpretation went into their making. So, naturally in a future case someone will point at these arguments and move for dismissal. Any lawyers in the house?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/25/2011 Posts: 2,103 Location: Nrb
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annsal wrote:Amores wrote:So we have people running Amok, that chapter 6 has not been applied.
Let us be honest with ourselves,if chapter 6 were to be applied to the letter, which politician would survive?.
So if they had barred Uhuruto from running,that would have been the measure of how katiba works ?Saa zingiine tuache kujifanya.
No one is being fixed by chapter 6, tukutaneni kwa debe
Jubilee oyee !
I love your enthusiasm.....unwavering.. @ annsal, ninaomba hiyo kura yako iende kwa UK. Na @ Xtina pia ninaimba. Hi @ Xtina? Kura ni Kuhesabu watu ,sio uganga I am happy
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