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Sanctions unlikely- The tide is turning
quicksand
#81 Posted : Thursday, February 07, 2013 6:33:51 PM
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limanika wrote:
UK diplomat said they can retain essential contact with Uhuruto if they win and go ahead to co-operate with ICC. Obama said he does not care who wins. What interest does Carson have to go to an extent of contradicting his boss? I fear some people are hiding cards under the table, the reason I cannot vote for a "project" being pushed by foreign interests.


As opposed to voting people vying to protect their own interests ...very likely by using power as a hedge against a judicial process ?
limanika
#82 Posted : Thursday, February 07, 2013 6:37:26 PM
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alma wrote:
actually limanika you are misquoting someone who was on citizen news just recently. He stated that UK gov't policy is not to engage with people in the Hague. Of course he added the sweet nothings about not affecting the common people. But you're free to think as you wish.

Heck, this thread started with some people extremely excited about No Sanctions. Now they are nunaring.


why, pray, would someone come out openly to say Kenya will suffer if we elect uhuruto yet they have not been proven guilty, and they have offered to co-operate with the court?
This is one of the reasons uhuruto are getting massive support from their home base. If the intention was to deny uhuruto some votes, the envoys could have achieved more to this end if they kept mum- in my opinion.
josiah33
#83 Posted : Thursday, February 07, 2013 6:39:29 PM
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Maybe this thread's Heading should be changed to Sanctions likely- The tide is reversing. Yes, some people would still be happy and others sad just like before, only this time the 'feel good' and the 'feel bad' CAMPS will be reversed too .

I AM SO SAD......Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad
Impunity
#84 Posted : Thursday, February 07, 2013 6:43:05 PM
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josiah33 wrote:

Well! well! well! Let Kenyans decide.


Kenyans as I know them must be decided for, you cant tell me the poor wanjiku living in ramshackle in Murang'a valley knows anything better than kamwana.
Kenyans must be protected from herself.
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#85 Posted : Thursday, February 07, 2013 6:44:42 PM
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Impunity wrote:
josiah33 wrote:

Well! well! well! Let Kenyans decide.


Kenyans as I know them must be decided for, you cant tell me the poor wanjiku living in ramshackle in Murang'a valley knows anything better than kamwana.
Kenyans must be protected from herself.


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#86 Posted : Thursday, February 07, 2013 6:45:12 PM
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quicksand wrote:
limanika wrote:
UK diplomat said they can retain essential contact with Uhuruto if they win and go ahead to co-operate with ICC. Obama said he does not care who wins. What interest does Carson have to go to an extent of contradicting his boss? I fear some people are hiding cards under the table, the reason I cannot vote for a "project" being pushed by foreign interests.


As opposed to voting people vying to protect their own interests ...very likely by using power as a hedge against a judicial process ?

punda amecheka
Jump-steady
#87 Posted : Thursday, February 07, 2013 6:46:00 PM
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limanika wrote:
alma wrote:
actually limanika you are misquoting someone who was on citizen news just recently. He stated that UK gov't policy is not to engage with people in the Hague. Of course he added the sweet nothings about not affecting the common people. But you're free to think as you wish.

Heck, this thread started with some people extremely excited about No Sanctions. Now they are nunaring.


why, pray, would someone come out openly to say Kenya will suffer if we elect uhuruto yet they have not been proven guilty, and they have offered to co-operate with the court?
This is one of the reasons uhuruto are getting massive support from their home base. If the intention was to deny uhuruto some votes, the envoys could have achieved more to this end if they kept mum- in my opinion.


Ditto!

And kassin can be cheeky too. Saying this and using someonelse to say the opposite smile
alma
#88 Posted : Thursday, February 07, 2013 6:47:17 PM
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just don't understand what people are sad about. It's an issue of fact and facts do not mind your emotions.

Electing the two suspects is a danger to your livelihood. Now, you can cry or laugh about it. But its a fact.

So make your decisions wisely knowing there will be consequences. There is a thread on the investors section that was hijacked by the tna fellows. It should tell you how you are going to survive. It was factual but guys just trampled on it.

As for the people supporting coz their muthamaki is in trouble from the west. I wonder how many of them will be there when they can't get good prices for the coffee or fuel gets to 200 bob a litre? Yep, I really wonder or will they now blame Obama and RAO as usual?
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#89 Posted : Thursday, February 07, 2013 6:47:31 PM
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Impunity wrote:
josiah33 wrote:

Well! well! well! Let Kenyans decide.


Kenyans as I know them must be decided for, you cant tell me the poor wanjiku living in ramshackle in Murang'a valley knows anything better than kamwana.
Kenyans must be protected from herself.


so what is wrong with that? how about the mama omena from homabay? any difference?

And pray, now that it is being said jubilants are tainted and will bring sanctions, can someone tell me who among those eight is not tainted, save for the walalo and probably the professor?
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Impunity
#90 Posted : Thursday, February 07, 2013 6:48:12 PM
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