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ChessMaster
#81 Posted : Friday, November 30, 2012 7:00:19 AM
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One the EROI rate(energy return on investment) is going down.We're spending more oil and money to get fewer and fewer barrels. Global demand of oil is going to surpass global supply. What good will having the largest reserve of water do if we already wasted and polluted the water we had? What has arable land done for Africa as it stands. How will we use it if we don't have water or we are building structures over it? Species going extinct does matter,an ecosystem balances works like that. If bees start dying out we will soon follow. Herbet Spencer is the one who coined the phrase survival of the fittest. Darwin meant only a species that better adapts itself to its environment has a better chance of survival. Survival of the fittest justifies what Hitler had intended,to do away with inferior races. We are not animals,we're humans.
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
murchr
#82 Posted : Friday, November 30, 2012 7:11:59 AM
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ChessMaster wrote:
One the EROI rate(energy return on investment) is going down.We're spending more oil and money to get fewer and fewer barrels. Global demand of oil is going to surpass global supply. What good will having the largest reserve of water do if we already wasted and polluted the water we had? What has arable land done for Africa as it stands. How will we use it if we don't have water or we are building structures over it? Species going extinct does matter,an ecosystem balances works like that. If bees start dying out we will soon follow. Herbet Spencer is the one who coined the phrase survival of the fittest. Darwin meant only a species that better adapts itself to its environment has a better chance of survival. Survival of the fittest justifies what Hitler had intended,to do away with inferior races. We are not animals,we're humans.
My friend....Whats the issue...read the water report released by the UN first it seems your commenting without putting matters in thought. Once a upon a time there lived a species in the name of dinosaurs, they dont exist now. On the underlined..history is always good to guide one in the future. It certainly doesnt hurt having enough water and land does it.?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
ChessMaster
#83 Posted : Friday, November 30, 2012 7:30:55 AM
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There is no problem.I was just addressing the issue of the rise of Africa considering the state of resources. It doesn't hurt to have land and water.
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
Seles83
#84 Posted : Friday, November 30, 2012 8:47:10 AM
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As an African you have below options: -Complain -Witness -Participate -Ignore.. Choose your position and be happy with it...after all its all vanity upon Vanity!!
More monies, more problems...
Rapudox
#85 Posted : Friday, November 30, 2012 12:20:47 PM
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I think as wazuans we all believe in Africa. Facts: 1) Yes, there is a transfer of wealth towards 2) yes, the standards of living in africa will rise BUT just the transfer of wealth alone doesnt guarantee anything, if you are just a consumer population. FDI is mobile, evasive and means nothing if the systems dont work and there is no intelligent local framework. I believe Congo & Naija have had their fair share of FDI. The only change that will sustain africa, is a radical mindset change. We still lack collective intelligence. Proof: Tribalism, Construction of estates in arable areas like Kiambu etc in a semi-arid country & Sonko! @ Seles , the big malls, big cars...just confirm that we are pure consumers...& when the wealth transfer comes, we shall be turned into cheap global manual labourers á la Asia. What use will all that oil, water etc be, if we don't even have the local capacity to pump it. And of course, the big players like UK, Germany are sitting comfy smoking cigars, with no idea that Africa is about to take off?? Before we even think of China, let us study India very closely.... Pockets of prosperity here & there will come to Africa, but will they fundamentally change the continent with the current mental status quo?....I dont think so. I say, India, again. That is where, we may be heading. @Seles...Proof of mentality problem in Africa = "after all its all vanity upon Vanity!!...this is what am talking about. Today it is vanity for us, for our Kids & grandkids it is reality.
Pesa Nane
#86 Posted : Friday, November 30, 2012 12:48:48 PM
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Rapudox wrote:
We still lack collective intelligence. Proof: Tribalism, Construction of estates in arable areas like Kiambu etc in a semi-arid country & Sonko!
Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#87 Posted : Friday, November 30, 2012 2:16:20 PM
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Very informative thread this. Whether we go into a bubble & whether it bursts is a non issue. The issue is that time & chance happen to us all. Make hay while the sun shines. Happy investing!
@SufficientlyP
ChessMaster
#88 Posted : Friday, November 30, 2012 3:36:12 PM
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Rapudox wrote:
I think as wazuans we all believe in Africa. Facts: 1) Yes, there is a transfer of wealth towards 2) yes, the standards of living in africa will rise BUT just the transfer of wealth alone doesnt guarantee anything, if you are just a consumer population. FDI is mobile, evasive and means nothing if the systems dont work and there is no intelligent local framework. I believe Congo & Naija have had their fair share of FDI. The only change that will sustain africa, is a radical mindset change. We still lack collective intelligence. Proof: Tribalism, Construction of estates in arable areas like Kiambu etc in a semi-arid country & Sonko! Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly @ Seles , the big malls, big cars...just confirm that we are pure consumers...& when the wealth transfer comes, we shall be turned into cheap global manual labourers á la Asia. What use will all that oil, water etc be, if we don't even have the local capacity to pump it. And of course, the big players like UK, Germany are sitting comfy smoking cigars, with no idea that Africa is about to take off?? Before we even think of China, let us study India very closely.... Pockets of prosperity here & there will come to Africa, but will they fundamentally change the continent with the current mental status quo?....I dont think so. I say, India, again. That is where, we may be heading. @Seles...Proof of mentality problem in Africa = "after all its all vanity upon Vanity!!...this is what am talking about. Today it is vanity for us, for our Kids & grandkids it is reality.
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
sentinel prime
#89 Posted : Friday, November 30, 2012 10:58:52 PM
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so you people are non believers, talking about prosperity ....the Bible talks of terrible famine and pestilence across africa. our agricultural practices are still extremely primitive .
Pesa Nane
#90 Posted : Saturday, December 01, 2012 12:18:57 AM
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
Whether we go into a bubble & whether it bursts is a non issue. The issue is that time & chance happen to us all. Make hay while the sun shines. Happy investing!
Very true. But be sure to get your seat when the music stops!:d/ :d/ Sad{|= Sad{|=
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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