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stocksmaster		#161 Posted : Monday, May 07, 2012 10:04:22 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 9/26/2006 Posts: 435 Location: CENTRAL PROVINCE		stocksmaster wrote: VituVingiSana wrote: YES... My payoff is here Where is @stocksmaster> Am doing my dance of joy......... The take-over was hinted by Segman last year.The key will be the price agreed upon between the major shareholder and Puma as this will give an idea of how the new entrant values KK and what offer will be extended to the minority shareholders.....have to do a research to see what puma offered other acquisitions and decide whether to cash in with the expected price rally or hold till puma comes for my shares...... The hunt doesn't get any sweeter...... Happy Hunting.... http://www.breakingviews...t-loan/21003764.article They secured a $ 260M syndicated loan as per attached article above (Ksh 21.5B) which must be targetting the Kenyan acquisition.......thats about Ksh 14.6 per K.K share if thats all they plan to spend on K.K. Hope the loan will be used to supplement their cash reserves coz Ksh 14.60 is too low for KK. Would really like to know the exit price of the major shareholders but the way things are, i may not wait for Puma if the market offers a good exit price. Can't wait for tommorrow to see how excited the market is.......... Happy Hunting....
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stocksmaster		#162 Posted : Monday, May 07, 2012 10:07:24 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 9/26/2006 Posts: 435 Location: CENTRAL PROVINCE		stocksmaster wrote: VituVingiSana wrote: YES... My payoff is here Where is @stocksmaster> Am doing my dance of joy......... The take-over was hinted by Segman last year.The key will be the price agreed upon between the major shareholder and Puma as this will give an idea of how the new entrant values KK and what offer will be extended to the minority shareholders.....have to do a research to see what puma offered other acquisitions and decide whether to cash in with the expected price rally or hold till puma comes for my shares...... The hunt doesn't get any sweeter...... Happy Hunting.... http://www.breakingviews...t-loan/21003764.article They secured a $ 260M syndicated loan as per attached article above (Ksh 21.5B) which must be targetting the Kenyan acquisition.......thats about Ksh 14.6 per K.K share if thats all they plan to spend on K.K. Hope the loan will be used to supplement their cash reserves coz Ksh 14.60 is too low for KK. Would really like to know the exit price of the major shareholders but the way things are, i may not wait for Puma if the market offers a good exit price. Can't wait for tommorrow to see how excited the market is.......... Happy Hunting....
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Aguytrying		#163 Posted : Monday, May 07, 2012 10:10:51 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040		What scenarios are likely to play out in takeovers, those with experience kindly shed some light. The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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mlennyma		#164 Posted : Monday, May 07, 2012 10:18:46 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,191 Location: nairobi		I have never witnessed a take over but a de-listing,iam on high alert. "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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speculator		#165 Posted : Monday, May 07, 2012 10:25:21 PM
Rank: New-farer Joined: 12/1/2009 Posts: 75 Location: nairobi		@vvs i'm on this bcoz of you. you made noise here had no choice but to board the bus. Asante now let us enjoy.the ride.
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Aguytrying		#166 Posted : Monday, May 07, 2012 10:32:38 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040		stocksmaster wrote: stocksmaster wrote: VituVingiSana wrote: YES... My payoff is here Where is @stocksmaster> Am doing my dance of joy......... The take-over was hinted by Segman last year.The key will be the price agreed upon between the major shareholder and Puma as this will give an idea of how the new entrant values KK and what offer will be extended to the minority shareholders.....have to do a research to see what puma offered other acquisitions and decide whether to cash in with the expected price rally or hold till puma comes for my shares...... The hunt doesn't get any sweeter...... Happy Hunting.... http://www.breakingviews...t-loan/21003764.article They secured a $ 260M syndicated loan as per attached article above (Ksh 21.5B) which must be targetting the Kenyan acquisition.......thats about Ksh 14.6 per K.K share if thats all they plan to spend on K.K. Hope the loan will be used to supplement their cash reserves coz Ksh 14.60 is too low for KK. Would really like to know the exit price of the major shareholders but the way things are, i may not wait for Puma if the market offers a good exit price. Can't wait for tommorrow to see how excited the market is.......... Happy Hunting.... here's the link: http://www.bloomberg.com...syndicated-facility.html The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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sparkly		#167 Posted : Monday, May 07, 2012 10:58:05 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi		Aguytrying wrote: stocksmaster wrote: stocksmaster wrote: [quote=VituVingiSana]YES... My payoff is here Where is @stocksmaster> Am doing my dance of joy......... The take-over was hinted by Segman last year.The key will be the price agreed upon between the major shareholder and Puma as this will give an idea of how the new entrant values KK and what offer will be extended to the minority shareholders.....have to do a research to see what puma offered other acquisitions and decide whether to cash in with the expected price rally or hold till puma comes for my shares...... The hunt doesn't get any sweeter...... Happy Hunting.... http://www.breakingviews...t-loan/21003764.article They secured a $ 260M syndicated loan as per attached article above (Ksh 21.5B) which must be targetting the Kenyan acquisition.......thats about Ksh 14.6 per K.K share if thats all they plan to spend on K.K. Hope the loan will be used to supplement their cash reserves coz Ksh 14.60 is too low for KK. Would really like to know the exit price of the major shareholders but the way things are, i may not wait for Puma if the market offers a good exit price. Can't wait for tommorrow to see how excited the market is.......... Happy Hunting.... here's the link: http://www.bloomberg.com...yndicated-facility.html[/quote] Niko kwa mbus, na hii bus iko na mafuta nyingi... Life is short. Live passionately.
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BGL		#168 Posted : Tuesday, May 08, 2012 1:32:56 AM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/11/2009 Posts: 1,223		Small shareholders: nobody likes us! For those talking about a takeover, i remind you that if there is someone to be screwed in this deal it will be us. But if they are buying Biwott and Co. that is fine. Mind you for all Man Utd fans in here we have not forgotten how the Glazers forced a takeover delisted the club and everybody knows things have never been the same again. History will not remember you for your IQ. It will remember you for what you did. “Genius is 1 percent inspiration, 99 percent perspiration.” Thomas Edison
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VituVingiSana		#169 Posted : Tuesday, May 08, 2012 2:12:45 AM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,200 Location: Nairobi		stocksmaster wrote: stocksmaster wrote: VituVingiSana wrote: YES... My payoff is here Where is @stocksmaster> Am doing my dance of joy......... The take-over was hinted by Segman last year.The key will be the price agreed upon between the major shareholder and Puma as this will give an idea of how the new entrant values KK and what offer will be extended to the minority shareholders.....have to do a research to see what puma offered other acquisitions and decide whether to cash in with the expected price rally or hold till puma comes for my shares...... The hunt doesn't get any sweeter...... Happy Hunting.... http://www.breakingviews...t-loan/21003764.article They secured a $ 260M syndicated loan as per attached article above (Ksh 21.5B) which must be targetting the Kenyan acquisition.......thats about Ksh 14.6 per K.K share if thats all they plan to spend on K.K. Hope the loan will be used to supplement their cash reserves coz Ksh 14.60 is too low for KK. Would really like to know the exit price of the major shareholders but the way things are, i may not wait for Puma if the market offers a good exit price. Can't wait for tommorrow to see how excited the market is.......... Happy Hunting.... Puma is huge so the $260mn loan may be for something else including financing of inventory, etc. Or just for the 56% of the 'major shareholders'. I would not sell at 15/-... Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - *to paraphrase Warren Buffett*
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VituVingiSana		#170 Posted : Tuesday, May 08, 2012 2:16:13 AM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,200 Location: Nairobi		speculator wrote: @vvs i'm on this bcoz of you. you made noise here had no choice but to board the bus. Asante now let us enjoy.the ride. Welcome! Thanks for listening Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - *to paraphrase Warren Buffett*
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VituVingiSana		#171 Posted : Tuesday, May 08, 2012 2:18:37 AM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,200 Location: Nairobi		Sure wrote: Does that mean we are going to be bought out like in the Unilever case? Men, we are on a roll? Thanks to Vitu Vingi and his visionary capability. Vitus for president. @sure - Asante lakini let's keep on sharing our knowledge. You can always buy me a beer or two Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - *to paraphrase Warren Buffett*
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VituVingiSana		#172 Posted : Tuesday, May 08, 2012 2:20:55 AM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,200 Location: Nairobi		Aguytrying wrote: @ Jamani. No words, perfect timing i second. vitus for president Note the last paragraph: "Accordingly, shareholders of the Company and the general public are cautioned against any speculative trading in the shares of the Company until such time as a further announcement is made" Well, when you tell people what not to do they normally do the opposite. @AGuy - Asante! Now let's roll in the dough once we know more! Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - *to paraphrase Warren Buffett*
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youcan'tstopusnow		#173 Posted : Tuesday, May 08, 2012 2:20:56 AM
Rank: Chief Joined: 3/24/2010 Posts: 6,779 Location: Black Africa		The loan facility may not have been specifically for the 'buy-out' as it was ''originally marketed at $180 million'' but was oversubribed to 260 million 14.6/= would be a joke really. Twice that is what I would consider fair value. In normal market conditions one would be looking to flip KK on AT LEAST a P.E of 15 (152.2 =33/=). And I know many who would balk at that figure on being on the lower side. But the onus is on the big boys, who are the ones selling. Would they cosider 20 bob a ''very good deal'' in comparison to the prices they got in? But payday may just be around the corner. No wonder Segman alikuwa anaharakisha hizo ESOP KEKE! KEKE! KEKE! KEKE! KEKE! KEKE! KEKE! KEKE! KEKE! That's my evil laugh! GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE*
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youcan'tstopusnow		#174 Posted : Tuesday, May 08, 2012 2:30:09 AM
Rank: Chief Joined: 3/24/2010 Posts: 6,779 Location: Black Africa		BGL wrote: Small shareholders: nobody likes us! For those talking about a takeover, i remind you that if there is someone to be screwed in this deal it will be us. But if they are buying Biwott and Co. that is fine. Mind you for all Man Utd fans in here we have not forgotten how the Glazers forced a takeover delisted the club and everybody knows things have never been the same again. You won't be forced to sell. Worst case scenario the company is delisted but you remain a shareholder with 'a few' others. As I've understood from the statement, I believe there won't be any opportunity for 'screwing' in the Meralli sense of the word GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
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youcan'tstopusnow		#175 Posted : Tuesday, May 08, 2012 2:55:43 AM
Rank: Chief Joined: 3/24/2010 Posts: 6,779 Location: Black Africa		Puma Energy has a global network of over 1,100 retail service stations KK has 400 retail service stations... GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
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VituVingiSana		#176 Posted : Tuesday, May 08, 2012 2:56:02 AM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,200 Location: Nairobi		For those who own KK shares http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ll3uipTO-4A Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - *to paraphrase Warren Buffett*
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QW25091985		#177 Posted : Tuesday, May 08, 2012 5:14:13 AM
Rank: User Joined: 1/24/2012 Posts: 1,675 Location: In Da Hood		emmmmm ? what going on here ? will the stock rally to 20 bob as some are saying . will KK be delisted ? lol. thats a joke .
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VituVingiSana		#178 Posted : Tuesday, May 08, 2012 6:18:28 AM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,200 Location: Nairobi		So folks waiting to buy it at 9/- ... Well, you can ... if you can go back in time Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - *to paraphrase Warren Buffett*
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Cde Monomotapa		#179 Posted : Tuesday, May 08, 2012 6:33:34 AM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/13/2011 Posts: 5,964		VituVingiSana wrote: So folks waiting to buy it at 9/- ... Well, you can ... if you can go back in time
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Jamani		#180 Posted : Tuesday, May 08, 2012 6:58:57 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 9/12/2006 Posts: 1,554		Cde Monomotapa wrote: VituVingiSana wrote: So folks waiting to buy it at 9/- ... Well, you can ... if you can go back in time dont rub it in..
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