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Gadaffi is a HERO. Not a Villain.
FundamentAli
#161 Posted : Friday, October 21, 2011 4:48:17 PM
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This whole episode is going to make the western world more isolated. I was not surprised to see China and Russia vetoing a motion on Syria the other day. The UN is going to be a more difficult place to do business. The noises about currencies is bound to become louder. Gadaffi was a hero in Africa and Cuba.
Mr.Wambui
#162 Posted : Friday, October 21, 2011 4:50:03 PM
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What will be the fate of oilibya and laico regency, zitakuwa za kenya ama..,?
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YesuWangu
#163 Posted : Friday, October 21, 2011 4:52:07 PM
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[quote=waiter]Time to foot the bill.

http://www.timeslive.co....france-defence-minister[/quote]

France "will strive to play the role of a principal partner in the country where the leaders know they owe us a lot."

"Our involvement was not belated, mediocre or uncertain. And we have nothing to be ashamed of."


Anyone still thinks this was for 'liberating' the poor libyan who was once called a rat or whose relative was killed by Gadaffi?

The second statement is absolutely terrifying. They knew what they wanted from the start and are not even ashamed of it. Apologists need not hide behind the 'Libyan liberation' phrase any more. They have been liberated from using euphemisms.

FundamentAli, I think business at UN will go on as if nothing has happened.
simonkabz
#164 Posted : Friday, October 21, 2011 5:06:45 PM
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The rats have been liberated. The opinion polls yesterday showed Kenyans' distaste for the west. This has been replicated on wazua and all over FB. It is smallmindedness to think the west has done the right thing for Libya. Even Americans themselves are disgusted by the actions of NTC fighters.
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youcan'tstopusnow
#165 Posted : Friday, October 21, 2011 5:12:50 PM
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This is just The Recolonisation of Africa or if you prefer, The Scramble and Partition of Africa part 2
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254.co.ke
#166 Posted : Friday, October 21, 2011 5:14:55 PM
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One person Villain is another person's Hero. Gadhafi was not a saint and if personally I was to rate him, he scores above average not only for Libya but also for Africa.

I found this irony on Reuters "The United Nations human rights office called for a full investigation into the death of Muammar Gaddafi and voiced concerns that he may have been executed" Is it the same body whose overall chief was among the first to send 'congratulatory message' for job well done?
nostoppingthis
#167 Posted : Friday, October 21, 2011 5:21:00 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow
#168 Posted : Friday, October 21, 2011 5:29:15 PM
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callaspade wrote:
Copy & paste

THE GADDAFI WE DIDN’T KNOW:



Boy! I wish Kenya was under such a 'dictator'
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Mblue
#169 Posted : Friday, October 21, 2011 5:43:47 PM
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Magigi wrote:
@callaspade
...Rink...and it better be credible!!!


Was Gaddafi really that terrible?
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YesuWangu
#170 Posted : Friday, October 21, 2011 5:49:43 PM
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254.co.ke wrote:
One person Villain is another person's Hero. Gadhafi was not a saint and if personally I was to rate him, he scores above average not only for Libya but also for Africa.

I found this irony on Reuters "The United Nations human rights office called for a full investigation into the death of Muammar Gaddafi and voiced concerns that he may have been executed" Is it the same body whose overall chief was among the first to send 'congratulatory message' for job well done?


What is an individual in all this. Its bigger than an individual, good or bad.

1. The parliament (UN) had passed the decision.

2. The army (NATO) had implemented the decision.

3. Maybe the court (ICC) will implement this investigation?

(With no links, all I have is goodwill in your comments that you are not just posting allegations. It will be bad if you are.)
bkismat
#171 Posted : Friday, October 21, 2011 6:24:51 PM
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[quote=TAZ]Whatever Gaddafi might or might not have done he didn't deserve to be treated this way, its just not right people.

http://www.dailymail.co....-summary-execution.html[/quote]
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masukuma
#172 Posted : Friday, October 21, 2011 6:29:31 PM
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The media has successfully painted Gaddafi as a hard-core dictator, tyrant whatever you want to call him. However, the media as usual has also failed to show the kind, giving Gaddafi we never heard of. Gaddafi, unlike most dictators I will refrain from naming, managed to show his humane side, the very side we dream of seeing in other dictators who just talk and talk.
I consider Libyans lucky to a certain extent and one wonders with the new democratic rule they cry for will it improve or worsen life for them. Yes, Gaddafi spent millions of Libya`s money on personal ventures but is the average Libyan poor? We know others who take a country and destroy it until you feel like there is no hope of restoring this country… looting some prefer to call it. Did Gaddafi loot Libya in any way?
Now let us get to the unknown facts about the Libyan dictator Muammar Gaddafi:

1. There is no electricity bill in Libya; electricity is free for all its citizens.
2. There is no interest on loans, banks in Libya are state-owned and loans given to all its citizens at 0% interest by law.
3. Home considered a human right in Libya – Gaddafi vowed that his parents would not get a house until everyone in Libya had a home. Gaddafi’s father has died while him, his wife and his mother are still living in a tent.
4. All newlyweds in Libya receive $60,000 Dinar (US$50,000) by the government to buy their first apartment so to help start up the family.
Traditional wedding in Tripoli, Libya

5. Education and medical treatments are free in Libya. Before Gaddafi only 25% of Libyans are literate. Today the figure is 83%.
6. Should Libyans want to take up farming career, they would receive farming land, a farming house, equipments, seeds and livestock to kick-start their farms – all for free.
7. If Libyans cannot find the education or medical facilities they need in Libya, the government funds them to go abroad for it – not only free but they get US$2,300/mth accommodation and car allowance.
8. In Libyan, if a Libyan buys a car, the government subsidized 50% of the price.
9. The price of petrol in Libya is $0.14 per liter.
10. Libya has no external debt and its reserves amount to $150 billion – now frozen globally.
Great Man-Made River project in Libya… $27 billion

11. If a Libyan is unable to get employment after graduation the state would pay the average salary of the profession as if he or she is employed until employment is found.
12. A portion of Libyan oil sale is, credited directly to the bank accounts of all Libyan citizens.
13. A mother who gave birth to a child receive US$5,000
14. 40 loaves of bread in Libya costs $ 0.15
15. 25% of Libyans have a university degree
16. Gaddafi carried out the world’s largest irrigation project, known as the Great Man-Made River project, to make water readily available throughout the desert country.
Which other dictator has done much good to his people?

consider this; a country that did not owe anyone anything is now "indebted" - http://www.timeslive.co....-france-defence-minister
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Intelligentsia
#173 Posted : Friday, October 21, 2011 6:32:11 PM
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In the meantime, can I plse inherit that voluptuous Ukrainian nini smile
masukuma
#174 Posted : Friday, October 21, 2011 7:22:55 PM
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RATS...RATS...RATS
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QW25081985
#175 Posted : Friday, October 21, 2011 7:31:56 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
Sad day!!! Yes, I said SAD day. The bloody vultures attacked the only African president, heck, the only president who provided universal free education, medical care, lowest taxes in the world, payments [dividends] from oil proceeds, low food prices, one of the highest literacy rates in the world [Not Africa, World!!] etc. etc.

What was their excuse again? Would an American president or any European leader stand and watch as organized gangs attack police stations and other security installations steal arms and use them to attack government forces?

Was Gadaffi attacking his people before the rebels masquerading as "protesters" started their overthrow process???

Why haven't the US and NATO attacked Israel? How many innocent Palestinians are killed daily by Israeli forces? Israelis bomb apartment buildings full of women and children because they believe one or two so called terrorists live in one of the houses in the apartment building.

And some wazuans still believe this war by the west was to protect innocent Libyans. Seriously? How much intelligence does one need to see through this facade? There are no innocent Syrians? Innocent Palestinians?

Gadaffi was not threat to anyone. No neighbouring country ever felt threatened. No Libyan community ever felt threatened. Gadaffi was attacked because he couldn't take bullshit from the west like a "good boy". He was just too independent for the liking of the west. He didn't need their money, he didn't take their bullshit, he didn't take instructions from a western capital. He had to go. What if we ended up with 2,3,..5,..20 such presidents in Africa? Something had to be done!



it all depends who taught you the meaning of a hero and a villian !!!! kama uklisomea chini ya mti you'll be forgiven ... Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
simonkabz
#176 Posted : Friday, October 21, 2011 7:32:36 PM
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Glad that world citizens are increasingly aware of the heinous n nefarious atrocities commited by NATO and co over Libya. The grissly execution of surrendered men clearly indicates whats in store for Libyans, n has no place in a modern civilized society. Mungu atusamehe.
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youcan'tstopusnow
#177 Posted : Friday, October 21, 2011 8:45:39 PM
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Naomba Occupy WallStreet iendelee kupata nguvu.
The removal of Gadaffi might end up biting them in the ass
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Hunderwear
#178 Posted : Friday, October 21, 2011 9:18:03 PM
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'user' wrote:
hero and sad for who? if I'm not seeing a movie libyans are happy and celebrating.

I hope you knw the western media once posted a clip of indians celebrating new year and reported that libyans were celebrating capture of Tripoli.Anyway dont blame u the education system u went thru is western.Iraqis also celebrated now?
callaspade
#179 Posted : Saturday, October 22, 2011 8:47:21 AM
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......now they have killed colonel and its time to kill each other....watch this space !!

......with assistance of the beggars who have been sitting outside the bakery,the rats have killed the baker.the beggars will now move in....how sad.

.....With more than 140 tribes and clans, Libya is considered one of the most tribal nations in the Arab world.
newfarer
#180 Posted : Saturday, October 22, 2011 9:39:29 AM
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Africa closes chapter on one tyrant:


http://www.nation.co.ke/.../-/f37e9hz/-/index.html

Newspapers across the continent hailed the fall of the man who styled himself as the “King of Kings” of Africa,

In Morocco, main opposition leader Lahcen Daoudi said Gaddafi had chosen his death.“It gives us one less tyrant,” he said.
Nigeria’s The Guardian’s front-page story headlined: “Quit notice - to bad leaders!”

South Africa, The Times newspaper warned in an editorial that Gaddafi’s death should be a lesson to African dictators.


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