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#881 Posted : Monday, October 11, 2010 1:09:12 PM
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the deal wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Huge trades in KK after the announcement that it has settled with KPRL... Remember KK does not have to pay the KShs 600mn KPRL was claiming though it will 'lose' the KShs 4bn that it was claiming from KPRL...
Going forward how will the new processing fee's affect KK's bottom line?
No way!!....it was for all oil marketers not kk only!!!
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#882 Posted : Monday, October 11, 2010 1:13:29 PM
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the deal wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Huge trades in KK after the announcement that it has settled with KPRL... Remember KK does not have to pay the KShs 600mn KPRL was claiming though it will 'lose' the KShs 4bn that it was claiming from KPRL...
Going forward how will the new processing fee's affect KK's bottom line?
Yes... I hope KK negotiated some tough conditions as regards quality & yields... I would have preferred KK take it to court/arbitration. Not happy with the settlement...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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#883 Posted : Monday, October 11, 2010 1:15:23 PM
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the deal wrote:
Going forward how will the new processing fee's affect KK's bottom line?
I would think it would be as much as everybody else in that sector.....
Sasha
#884 Posted : Monday, October 11, 2010 1:36:37 PM
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Though I'm not privy to the terms of the settlement, I would expect that KK agreed to pay the Kshs 600m to KPRL either in tranches or in premiums over and above the usual processing fees. Of course this is if at all the payment of the Kshs 600m is part of the settlement agreement. Either way, KK's bottomline may suffer more than the other OMC's! Hopefully this can give me a chance to buy more!
alikujia
#885 Posted : Monday, October 11, 2010 1:42:42 PM
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the Segman could be very effective at growing the bottomline but would do better with additional soft skills. Regulatory authorities are just that "authority". Going it alone was a bit suicidal-like. A group approach would have been more effective. Also I still think the chairma/ceo needs separation. never underestimate the capacity of human ego even in intelligent persons.
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#886 Posted : Monday, October 11, 2010 2:02:13 PM
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Stop hating on Segman... Anyway, I am confident that KK will come out smelling like roses! KK will not have to pay KShs 600mn even though there may be higher fees going forward thus lower margins... Lakini, KK showed KPRL, GoK, ERC, KPC... that you don't eff around with KK... Otherwise, you can expect increases in fees all the time...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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#887 Posted : Monday, October 11, 2010 2:10:48 PM
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If indeed KK will NOT have to pay any amount to KPRL in respect of what KPRL were claiming i.e. the 600 Million, I would consider KK to have prevailed, even if they have had to drop their lawsuit against KPRL. In any event, In my view Segman was right to have stood up to the bullies from ERC and MoE. It is one more blow in our fight against impunity.
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#888 Posted : Monday, October 11, 2010 2:15:20 PM
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mwanahisa wrote:
If indeed KK will NOT have to pay any amount to KPRL in respect of what KPRL were claiming i.e. the 600 Million, I would consider KK to have prevailed, even if they have had to drop their lawsuit against KPRL. In any event, In my view Segman was right to have stood up to the bullies from ERC and MoE. It is one more blow in our fight against impunity.
Lakini the 600mn does NOT excite me!!! I was waiting for 4bn... KK has 1.5bn shares @ 600mn = 0.30 EPS (additional PAT) 4bn would have been 2.00 EPS (additional PAT)
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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#889 Posted : Monday, October 11, 2010 2:27:16 PM
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Money where my mouth is... Bought some KK [Re-allocation by selling some other shares] Also order in for KQ @ 42/- but I might have to pay 43/-
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
mwanahisa
#890 Posted : Monday, October 11, 2010 2:28:54 PM
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Agreed. We would all have been happier with 4 billion from KPRL but I always considered this to be a long shot, just like that with KPC. If KK wins it will be good but I doubt whether they will get the amount claimed. My investment case for KK is built on the profits and cash flows being made from operations which are pretty good. If you will recall many of us expected KK's share price to soar to as much as 15 before the problems with KPRL and its enforcers arose. This was primarily based on its very impressive H1 2010 results.
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