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Elliott Wave Analysis Of The NSE 20
sparkly
#881 Posted : Thursday, September 24, 2015 11:59:11 AM
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@Mnandii how does the chart look????
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#882 Posted : Thursday, September 24, 2015 12:08:15 PM
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sparkly wrote:
@Mnandii how does the chart look????

Very confusing this market for non technical people like me!!!
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mlennyma
#883 Posted : Thursday, September 24, 2015 12:16:49 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
sparkly wrote:
@Mnandii how does the chart look????

Very confusing this market for non technical people like me!!!

iam also afraid of shooting squirrels only for the lion to appear later when iam short of ammunition
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snipermnoma
#884 Posted : Thursday, September 24, 2015 11:04:53 PM
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hisah wrote:
snipermnoma wrote:
hisah wrote:
Bounce progress as expected. The real test will be if 4000 will hold on the next nosedive episode. That level has to hold if bulls are to survive!

Global equities are still undecided, but I expect another downside episode soon.


Meanwhile USD to Kes. has been hovered around 105 for two weeks (one might say at least Kes is not sliding but with all the intervention why is it not improving either?)

In the same two weeks NSE 20 has been in a narrow band 4125 to 4260.

today 91 T-bill rate at 14.486%, higher than 182 T-bill which is at 13.861% and higher than the coupon on most bonds.

This points to a recovery without legs. The steam will run out soon. I agree with @hisah 4000 will be tested with support at 3930.79 as per @mnandii post

The money market is signalling stress! Interbank rate is above 20% again like in August while the 182 and 364 day tbills are getting undersubscribed. Nobody willing to pack money there at the current rates as 91 day rate is almost vaulting the 364 day rate! The dread inverted yield curve is almost striking home! A clear recession sign as liquidity squeeze continues.


@hisah What a difference a week can make...and it came to pass 91 T-bill rate at 18.607% subscription 128% (link), higher than 182 at 14.551% subscription 5.31%, 364 at 16.301% subscription 11.31% (link). 1yr bond is 19.062% coupon (link). Meanwhile Interbank at 25.6398%. This points to stocks heading south.
hisah
#885 Posted : Friday, September 25, 2015 5:04:46 AM
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Joined: 8/4/2010
Posts: 8,977
snipermnoma wrote:
hisah wrote:
snipermnoma wrote:
hisah wrote:
Bounce progress as expected. The real test will be if 4000 will hold on the next nosedive episode. That level has to hold if bulls are to survive!

Global equities are still undecided, but I expect another downside episode soon.


Meanwhile USD to Kes. has been hovered around 105 for two weeks (one might say at least Kes is not sliding but with all the intervention why is it not improving either?)

In the same two weeks NSE 20 has been in a narrow band 4125 to 4260.

today 91 T-bill rate at 14.486%, higher than 182 T-bill which is at 13.861% and higher than the coupon on most bonds.

This points to a recovery without legs. The steam will run out soon. I agree with @hisah 4000 will be tested with support at 3930.79 as per @mnandii post

The money market is signalling stress! Interbank rate is above 20% again like in August while the 182 and 364 day tbills are getting undersubscribed. Nobody willing to pack money there at the current rates as 91 day rate is almost vaulting the 364 day rate! The dread inverted yield curve is almost striking home! A clear recession sign as liquidity squeeze continues.


@hisah What a difference a week can make...and it came to pass 91 T-bill rate at 18.607% subscription 128% (link), higher than 182 at 14.551% subscription 5.31%, 364 at 16.301% subscription 11.31% (link). 1yr bond is 19.062% coupon (link). Meanwhile Interbank at 25.6398%. This points to stocks heading south.

Liquidity vacuum! CBK is sitting on very sharp needles and attempting to smile! Yet most banks are profitable without liquidity this year!? Someone is applying thick layers of very glossy lipstick to look attractive!

Econ macros out of sync and now vapour liquidity, this is now beyond profit warnings window.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Cde Monomotapa
#886 Posted : Friday, September 25, 2015 6:43:38 AM
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Joined: 1/13/2011
Posts: 5,964
hisah wrote:
snipermnoma wrote:
hisah wrote:
snipermnoma wrote:
hisah wrote:
Bounce progress as expected. The real test will be if 4000 will hold on the next nosedive episode. That level has to hold if bulls are to survive!

Global equities are still undecided, but I expect another downside episode soon.


Meanwhile USD to Kes. has been hovered around 105 for two weeks (one might say at least Kes is not sliding but with all the intervention why is it not improving either?)

In the same two weeks NSE 20 has been in a narrow band 4125 to 4260.

today 91 T-bill rate at 14.486%, higher than 182 T-bill which is at 13.861% and higher than the coupon on most bonds.

This points to a recovery without legs. The steam will run out soon. I agree with @hisah 4000 will be tested with support at 3930.79 as per @mnandii post

The money market is signalling stress! Interbank rate is above 20% again like in August while the 182 and 364 day tbills are getting undersubscribed. Nobody willing to pack money there at the current rates as 91 day rate is almost vaulting the 364 day rate! The dread inverted yield curve is almost striking home! A clear recession sign as liquidity squeeze continues.


@hisah What a difference a week can make...and it came to pass 91 T-bill rate at 18.607% subscription 128% (link), higher than 182 at 14.551% subscription 5.31%, 364 at 16.301% subscription 11.31% (link). 1yr bond is 19.062% coupon (link). Meanwhile Interbank at 25.6398%. This points to stocks heading south.

Liquidity vacuum! CBK is sitting on very sharp needles and attempting to smile! Yet most banks are profitable without liquidity this year!? Someone is applying thick layers of very glossy lipstick to look attractive!

Econ macros out of sync and now vapour liquidity, this is now beyond profit warnings window.


Aicaramba! Yup, no arbitrages here. USD/KES bulls scoped?

More Bearish outlook for banks. Similar to Naija. The hustle for deposits beckons, NIM squeeze a given;

Treasury migrates ministry accounts to online platforms
Quote:
The Treasury early this year ordered all State corporations and agencies to surrender billions of shillings held in commercial banks as surplus cash to CBK.

The order β€” part of measures to help curb unnecessary borrowing β€” obligates government ministries, and State agencies and corporations to ensure that all their cash-flow requirements are handled through a single account hosted by the CBK.

The Treasury said State corporations and agencies were holding huge sums of surplus cash in short-term bank deposits or funds invested in Treasury bills and bonds even as they continued to receive regular budgetary allocations.

http://www.businessdaily.../-/fc700nz/-/index.html

Banks seen relying on transaction fees as margins shrink Particularly concerned about CFC, BBK & SCBK. Under invested in this regard.

On the flip, thinking of cash flush low debt like BAMB & Scan to capitalize on these rates. Rollover paradise!
hisah
#887 Posted : Friday, September 25, 2015 9:35:50 AM
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@cde, any firm flush with cash will be in rollover utopia as they command interest rates to be paid for their deposits... However those with huge debts especially forex loans like ARM etc will be taken to the cleaners for a rough shaving.

I've also recommended BAMB a while back as a nice stock to pack your cash while the bear storm does its thing.

The current equities bounce will head nowhere with the madness going on at the money markets. Equities need liquidity to sustain rallies. Vapour volume rallies lose the entire uptrend when selling bout kicks in since such rallies have no legs (solid base).
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Cde Monomotapa
#888 Posted : Friday, September 25, 2015 10:21:36 AM
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Joined: 1/13/2011
Posts: 5,964
hisah wrote:
@cde, any firm flush with cash will be in rollover utopia as they command interest rates to be paid for their deposits... However those with huge debts especially forex loans like ARM etc will be taken to the cleaners for a rough shaving.

I've also recommended BAMB a while back as a nice stock to pack your cash while the bear storm does its thing.

The current equities bounce will head nowhere with the madness going on at the money markets. Equities need liquidity to sustain rallies. Vapour volume rallies lose the entire uptrend when selling bout kicks in since such rallies have no legs (solid base).


No hurry. There are 3 more months to clear with CGT and open the polling booths proper. Tactical to buy the Bear and bet on foreign infusion post-CGT. Discounts galore.
mugo2of3
#889 Posted : Friday, September 25, 2015 12:14:31 PM
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Joined: 5/22/2014
Posts: 78
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
hisah wrote:
@cde, any firm flush with cash will be in rollover utopia as they command interest rates to be paid for their deposits... However those with huge debts especially forex loans like ARM etc will be taken to the cleaners for a rough shaving.

I've also recommended BAMB a while back as a nice stock to pack your cash while the bear storm does its thing.

The current equities bounce will head nowhere with the madness going on at the money markets. Equities need liquidity to sustain rallies. Vapour volume rallies lose the entire uptrend when selling bout kicks in since such rallies have no legs (solid base).


No hurry. There are 3 more months to clear with CGT and open the polling booths proper. Tactical to buy the Bear and bet on foreign infusion post-CGT. Discounts galore.


I thought that the CGT has already been scrapped ?
http://www.cma.or.ke/index.php?...test-newz&Itemid=574
Metasploit
#890 Posted : Friday, September 25, 2015 12:41:20 PM
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Joined: 3/26/2012
Posts: 985
Location: Dar es salaam,Tanzania
hisah wrote:
snipermnoma wrote:
hisah wrote:
snipermnoma wrote:
hisah wrote:
Bounce progress as expected. The real test will be if 4000 will hold on the next nosedive episode. That level has to hold if bulls are to survive!

Global equities are still undecided, but I expect another downside episode soon.


Meanwhile USD to Kes. has been hovered around 105 for two weeks (one might say at least Kes is not sliding but with all the intervention why is it not improving either?)

In the same two weeks NSE 20 has been in a narrow band 4125 to 4260.

today 91 T-bill rate at 14.486%, higher than 182 T-bill which is at 13.861% and higher than the coupon on most bonds.

This points to a recovery without legs. The steam will run out soon. I agree with @hisah 4000 will be tested with support at 3930.79 as per @mnandii post

The money market is signalling stress! Interbank rate is above 20% again like in August while the 182 and 364 day tbills are getting undersubscribed. Nobody willing to pack money there at the current rates as 91 day rate is almost vaulting the 364 day rate! The dread inverted yield curve is almost striking home! A clear recession sign as liquidity squeeze continues.


@hisah What a difference a week can make...and it came to pass 91 T-bill rate at 18.607% subscription 128% (link), higher than 182 at 14.551% subscription 5.31%, 364 at 16.301% subscription 11.31% (link). 1yr bond is 19.062% coupon (link). Meanwhile Interbank at 25.6398%. This points to stocks heading south.

Liquidity vacuum! CBK is sitting on very sharp needles and attempting to smile! Yet most banks are profitable without liquidity this year!? Someone is applying thick layers of very glossy lipstick to look attractive!

Econ macros out of sync and now vapour liquidity, this is now beyond profit warnings window.


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The last slide before the rebound had totally no support for banking stocks!!!

Next slide will be major

β€œThe pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.”
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