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shalishali
#861 Posted : Friday, May 15, 2015 2:37:21 PM
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tinker wrote:
Dear learned Wazuans

Am planning to build a 4 storey residential, 1 Bedroomed flat on a 1/8 parcel somewhere in Kajiado North.
I have researched online and I have settled on the following:
1. Get approval by the local/county authority
2. Use professional to carry the tasks.

Now my questions are:
1. Kajiado county by laws - does it allow for maximum ground coverage?
2. How many nicely spaced "standard" one bedroom units can you fit per floor in an 1/8 th plot.
3. For approval do we requirement both the Architect & structural drawings ?
4. Approximate cost for Architect & structural drawings - to be paid to the architect. You will also be required to do an Environmental Impact Assessment(EIA.) NEMA fees will be 0.1% of project cost + professional fee for the registered practicing lead expert/firm which you can negotiate.
5. Approximate approval fee - Paid to the local authority.
6. Contractor = charging 5% of total project cost
7. Building/structural engineer -charging x% of total project cost
8. Quantity surveyor - Do I even need him ???
9. Who are "must have " professional their % charges?

UKITAFUTA UKABILA UTAKUFA BILA!
shalishali
#862 Posted : Friday, May 15, 2015 2:45:52 PM
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Environmental Impact Assessment (EIA)NEMA fees-0.1%of total project cost(that is why you may need a QS.)+ registered practicing Lead expert/firm charges(negotiable).
UKITAFUTA UKABILA UTAKUFA BILA!
nakujua
#863 Posted : Monday, June 15, 2015 2:41:23 PM
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@a4architect ama any one who has knowledge on this - sema I have put up a small bungalow and due to space constraints I decide to increase space by adding a floor.

1. Is it possible to do that for a bungalow and what are the implication design wise and also for building approval.
2. would it be cheaper to tear down the bungalow and start the house a-fresh.

If 1 is possible who would one go for, an architect ama engineer, na hawa engineers wa nyumba kidogo wanapatikana kweli, have always thought engineers come in when we have complex houses.
bubethi
#864 Posted : Monday, July 06, 2015 6:07:29 PM
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@a4architect.

Could you link me up with institutions or individuals who could be interested in leasing a school by Jan 2016.

I will give further details and specifications upon request. If you got any links drop mail on bubethi [at] yahoo [dot] co [dot] uk


obiero
#865 Posted : Monday, July 06, 2015 11:53:58 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
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shalishali wrote:
tinker wrote:
Dear learned Wazuans

Am planning to build a 4 storey residential, 1 Bedroomed flat on a 1/8 parcel somewhere in Kajiado North.
I have researched online and I have settled on the following:
1. Get approval by the local/county authority
2. Use professional to carry the tasks.

Now my questions are:
1. Kajiado county by laws - does it allow for maximum ground coverage?
2. How many nicely spaced "standard" one bedroom units can you fit per floor in an 1/8 th plot.
3. For approval do we requirement both the Architect & structural drawings ?
4. Approximate cost for Architect & structural drawings - to be paid to the architect. You will also be required to do an Environmental Impact Assessment(EIA.) NEMA fees will be 0.1% of project cost + professional fee for the registered practicing lead expert/firm which you can negotiate.
5. Approximate approval fee - Paid to the local authority.
6. Contractor = charging 5% of total project cost
7. Building/structural engineer -charging x% of total project cost
8. Quantity surveyor - Do I even need him ???
9. Who are "must have " professional their % charges?


All those professionals have a role to play, but I would say that the structural engineer needs to be learned and skilled.. Otherwise, the house may pancake
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thegere
#866 Posted : Thursday, July 09, 2015 8:50:06 PM
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Hi Wazuans,
I have a piece of land measuring 25*50 at chokaa area. The length (25feet)faces a rough road,whereas the breadth (50ft)is sandwiched between to plots.Any idea on how i can construct a storeyed building on that piece of land which will give bigger returns on money invested.
shocks
#867 Posted : Thursday, July 09, 2015 10:39:25 PM
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Posts: 362
obiero wrote:
shalishali wrote:
tinker wrote:
Dear learned Wazuans

Am planning to build a 4 storey residential, 1 Bedroomed flat on a 1/8 parcel somewhere in Kajiado North.
I have researched online and I have settled on the following:
1. Get approval by the local/county authority
2. Use professional to carry the tasks.

Now my questions are:
1. Kajiado county by laws - does it allow for maximum ground coverage?
2. How many nicely spaced "standard" one bedroom units can you fit per floor in an 1/8 th plot.
3. For approval do we requirement both the Architect & structural drawings ?
4. Approximate cost for Architect & structural drawings - to be paid to the architect. You will also be required to do an Environmental Impact Assessment(EIA.) NEMA fees will be 0.1% of project cost + professional fee for the registered practicing lead expert/firm which you can negotiate.
5. Approximate approval fee - Paid to the local authority.
6. Contractor = charging 5% of total project cost
7. Building/structural engineer -charging x% of total project cost
8. Quantity surveyor - Do I even need him ???
9. Who are "must have " professional their % charges?


All those professionals have a role to play, but I would say that the structural engineer needs to be learned and skilled.. Otherwise, the house may pancake


all professionals are important but there are shortcuts unaweza piga. As a guy in this field, here is my take,
do you want to copy paste someones project, maybe you have similar plot dimension, same locality e.t.c e.t.c, get someone at the local authority to copy paste such a project from files at a steep discount. ( this is harder than it seems, since everything has to be the same, from wind, to soil type, same exact usage, usiweke water tanks if the other guy didn't
Do you want to build something you came up with, get a good architect and play around with different designs till you get the perfect one.
If the area has tricky soils and/or its a new design, you need a structural engineer.
if you need to employ a contractor, you'll need a quantity surveyor to handle cost and payment issues.
my advice, look for seroius guys with ~5yrs experience. They won't charge you too much and their experience is optimum for a flat. Get big shot professionals, you'll pay at corporate rates, get campo guys and you'll get substandard services. Professionals give them 1.5% architect, 1% structural engineer and quantity surveyor each of the estimated construction cost (30k x plinth area)
shocks
#868 Posted : Friday, July 10, 2015 6:13:38 PM
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sparkly wrote:
RE: KARIBU HOMES at Athi River, being constructed by a Chinese Co.

Went to have a look at the project which is going for KShs 1.4M - 5.7M.

Thought the project was strange but couldn't quite get my mind to it.

Then it struck me that they are building multi-storey apartments (up to 4 floors) without support columns!

All i could see were some polystyrene boards between the apartments and some zinc/aluminium strips in the mortar.

What kind of technology is this? How reliable is it?


Structural Engineer hapa,
this type of construction is called load bearing masonry as opposed to the one you are used to called reinforced concrete frame whereby the frame carries the load (composed of columns {the vertical members} and beams (the horizontal members}).
Load Bearing Masonry
Reinforced Concrete Frame

Its is allowed by the british standards BS 5628 which has conditions when you exceed 4 storeys. Kenya building code has conditions on the minimum strength of masonry(stones) to be used on this type of building, good old ndarugo stone will pass this.

Load bearing masonry structures have a limit on the height that can be achieved because they do not perform well when laterally loaded. (wind and earthquake)

Thats why limit is 4 storeys in Kenya.

Now using polystyrene boards is a new style of building. It easily replaces masonry for partioning as its lighter and very easy and fast to instal. Some of those partition walls using polystyrene are not structural (do not carry loads) which is advantageous as it reduces the amount of load to be carried by the building.


There still is some polystyrene walls that are load bearing, but they are strengthed with steal and concerete.



As far as loads go and structural soundness, they are ok, I will let @ a4architect advice on durability and sound proof qualities.
a4architect.com
#869 Posted : Friday, July 10, 2015 6:29:35 PM
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as long as there is structural engineering input and supervision, the building is structurally sound.
As Iron Sharpens Iron, So one Man Sharpens Another.
mnandii
#870 Posted : Sunday, July 12, 2015 6:34:01 PM
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Joined: 10/11/2006
Posts: 2,304
a4architect.com wrote:
as long as there is structural engineering input and supervision, the building is structurally sound.


@a4architect.com, have u ever considered applying Fibonacci Ratios to your designs? smile
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