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tony stark		#831 Posted : Wednesday, August 05, 2020 8:29:42 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/8/2008 Posts: 947		paulkimani wrote: murchr wrote: In 2016 when we said that we smell the Maddoff cologne here tulifukuzwa. Kitumbua kime ingia mchanga? Haters gonna hate bro (hortons gonna hate ) we keep going with the truth bro Well this is interesting. Did you short sell their shares?? Are you making any money from these Maddoff cologne. You know at least Markopolos got a pay of from the SEC and published a book.. But paulkimani and divainvest look like troll accounts on Twitter. But as a hater can you please provide some information instead of insinuations. Yes you saw baby powder because they just had to get high before their next investor meeting which happened to be you. The britam fight seemed to have been concluded in court and I can easily see how this is old money protecting turf. Very clear! Are they unable to pay ... Not completely this pause on withdrawals is clearly a move to avoid a run on the fund that is tied to long term real estate.. I personally have been paid several times by this so called Ponzi scheme. You seem to have an axe to grind with cytonn and this seems to be personal. But if you do have facts please provide. Most of your insinuations unfortunately just seem to be your personal issue. Good luck though. Please don't call me a hater ... There is nothing you are doing to be hated.
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paulkimani		#832 Posted : Wednesday, August 05, 2020 8:41:24 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 1/19/2016 Posts: 204		Tony Stark - read all 42 pages and come back with specific questions. Can’t speak for anyone else but I don’t have time to waste so if you’re just going to troll out long essays - keep going bro. “Yes you saw baby powder because they just had to get high before their next investor meeting which happened to be you.” - tony stark Even he admits it
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murchr		#833 Posted : Wednesday, August 05, 2020 8:49:47 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980		tony stark wrote: paulkimani wrote: murchr wrote: In 2016 when we said that we smell the Maddoff cologne here tulifukuzwa. Kitumbua kime ingia mchanga? Haters gonna hate bro (hortons gonna hate ) we keep going with the truth bro Well this is interesting. Did you short sell their shares?? Are you making any money from these Maddoff cologne. You know at least Markopolos got a pay of from the SEC and published a book.. But paulkimani and divainvest look like troll accounts on Twitter. But as a hater can you please provide some information instead of insinuations. Yes you saw baby powder because they just had to get high before their next investor meeting which happened to be you. The britam fight seemed to have been concluded in court and I can easily see how this is old money protecting turf. Very clear! Are they unable to pay ... Not completely this pause on withdrawals is clearly a move to avoid a run on the fund that is tied to long term real estate.. I personally have been paid several times by this so called Ponzi scheme. You seem to have an axe to grind with cytonn and this seems to be personal. But if you do have facts please provide. Most of your insinuations unfortunately just seem to be your personal issue. Good luck though. Please don't call me a hater ... There is nothing you are doing to be hated. Post# 117 I asked Obi to sell to me the Cyntonn dream because he claimed to know these people personally Many people tried but all I could smell was Madoff. @alma was called a hater, @Rollout akaambiwa ana roll bangi and I think @enyands was trapped. Pole @Nyandi if the music has stopped On if I shortsold.. NO, there's no market for that here, hence this is the light green section, not blue otherwise I would have made money. Katika ile harakati ya kutafuta pesa lazima uumwe kidogo. Lessons have been learnt "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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tony stark		#834 Posted : Wednesday, August 05, 2020 9:02:06 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/8/2008 Posts: 947		paulkimani wrote: Tony Stark - read all 42 pages and come back with specific questions. Can’t speak for anyone else but I don’t have time to waste so if you’re just going to troll out long essays - keep going bro. “Yes you saw baby powder because they just had to get high before their next investor meeting which happened to be you.” - tony stark Even he admits it So your evidence is the rumblings on Wazua?? You don't have your thoughts on paper?? I have been following this thread for a while and have seen your propaganda. So let me summarize for you. There is a general viewpoint that 18- 20% is ridiculous return on investments. This seems to be kularaha argument. Makes sense if you only think of the NSE casino. But this is a wrong hypothesis .... Real estate easily returns 25 -40% when annualized for rent and capital appreciation.. Also cash management services can be very lucrative. There are several high return investments the challenge is scale and repeatability. Your other hypothesis is Ooohhh they robbed Britam. Clearly this was addressed in court and this is clearly a case of the big dog trying to chase away competition. This is very rampant in Kenya. Your other insinuations about character and personalities in cytonn seems to be your main focus in 38 pages. However this is the most biased part. Nikama ulinyimwa na mtu cytonn ... Na sijui kama ni boy ama girl in cytonn alikunyima. Because boss you need to have more focus in life before you discuss other people's lives. I believe this summarizes the 42 pages? Is there anything I missed?
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tony stark		#835 Posted : Wednesday, August 05, 2020 9:10:06 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/8/2008 Posts: 947		murchr wrote: tony stark wrote: paulkimani wrote: murchr wrote: In 2016 when we said that we smell the Maddoff cologne here tulifukuzwa. Kitumbua kime ingia mchanga? Haters gonna hate bro (hortons gonna hate ) we keep going with the truth bro Well this is interesting. Did you short sell their shares?? Are you making any money from these Maddoff cologne. You know at least Markopolos got a pay of from the SEC and published a book.. But paulkimani and divainvest look like troll accounts on Twitter. But as a hater can you please provide some information instead of insinuations. Yes you saw baby powder because they just had to get high before their next investor meeting which happened to be you. The britam fight seemed to have been concluded in court and I can easily see how this is old money protecting turf. Very clear! Are they unable to pay ... Not completely this pause on withdrawals is clearly a move to avoid a run on the fund that is tied to long term real estate.. I personally have been paid several times by this so called Ponzi scheme. You seem to have an axe to grind with cytonn and this seems to be personal. But if you do have facts please provide. Most of your insinuations unfortunately just seem to be your personal issue. Good luck though. Please don't call me a hater ... There is nothing you are doing to be hated. Post# 117 I asked Obi to sell to me the Cyntonn dream because he claimed to know these people personally Many people tried but all I could smell was Madoff. @alma was called a hater, @Rollout akaambiwa ana roll bangi and I think @enyands was trapped. Pole @Nyandi if the music has stopped On if I shortsold.. NO, there's no market for that here, hence this is the light green section, not blue otherwise I would have made money. Katika ile harakati ya kutafuta pesa lazima uumwe kidogo. Lessons have been learnt I get you but it depends. If you were planning to liquidate now the current cytonn situation is horrible. If your view is long term then avoiding a run on the fund is critical. In the CHYS investors a vast majority agreed to keep their money in. No money has been lost yet. Anyway we have been here long enough to see 10 year old conversation come up. We will come back to this conversation in a few years and I might be laughing to the bank or crying here on Wazua. I mean even kularaha lost money after he started a company here with fellow stock Kenya member. The esskay company was destroyed by the real cindano aka the real Massey and kularaha is still alive and well. We live and we learn.
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murchr		#836 Posted : Wednesday, August 05, 2020 9:24:14 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980		tony stark wrote: murchr wrote: tony stark wrote: paulkimani wrote: murchr wrote: In 2016 when we said that we smell the Maddoff cologne here tulifukuzwa. Kitumbua kime ingia mchanga? Haters gonna hate bro (hortons gonna hate ) we keep going with the truth bro Well this is interesting. Did you short sell their shares?? Are you making any money from these Maddoff cologne. You know at least Markopolos got a pay of from the SEC and published a book.. But paulkimani and divainvest look like troll accounts on Twitter. But as a hater can you please provide some information instead of insinuations. Yes you saw baby powder because they just had to get high before their next investor meeting which happened to be you. The britam fight seemed to have been concluded in court and I can easily see how this is old money protecting turf. Very clear! Are they unable to pay ... Not completely this pause on withdrawals is clearly a move to avoid a run on the fund that is tied to long term real estate.. I personally have been paid several times by this so called Ponzi scheme. You seem to have an axe to grind with cytonn and this seems to be personal. But if you do have facts please provide. Most of your insinuations unfortunately just seem to be your personal issue. Good luck though. Please don't call me a hater ... There is nothing you are doing to be hated. Post# 117 I asked Obi to sell to me the Cyntonn dream because he claimed to know these people personally Many people tried but all I could smell was Madoff. @alma was called a hater, @Rollout akaambiwa ana roll bangi and I think @enyands was trapped. Pole @Nyandi if the music has stopped On if I shortsold.. NO, there's no market for that here, hence this is the light green section, not blue otherwise I would have made money. Katika ile harakati ya kutafuta pesa lazima uumwe kidogo. Lessons have been learnt I get you but it depends. If you were planning to liquidate now the current cytonn situation is horrible. If your view is long term then avoiding a run on the fund is critical. In the CHYS investors a vast majority agreed to keep their money in. No money has been lost yet. Anyway we have been here long enough to see 10 year old conversation come up. We will come back to this conversation in a few years and I might be laughing to the bank or crying here on Wazua. I mean even kularaha lost money after he started a company here with fellow stock Kenya member. The esskay company was destroyed by the real cindano aka the real Massey and kularaha is still alive and well. We live and we learn. Sure. I still believe the business concept is bout to fail and would advise anyone to keep off. But long termers....keep holding on you never know. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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KulaRaha		#837 Posted : Thursday, August 06, 2020 10:57:31 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514		tony stark wrote: murchr wrote: tony stark wrote: paulkimani wrote: murchr wrote: In 2016 when we said that we smell the Maddoff cologne here tulifukuzwa. Kitumbua kime ingia mchanga? Haters gonna hate bro (hortons gonna hate ) we keep going with the truth bro Well this is interesting. Did you short sell their shares?? Are you making any money from these Maddoff cologne. You know at least Markopolos got a pay of from the SEC and published a book.. But paulkimani and divainvest look like troll accounts on Twitter. But as a hater can you please provide some information instead of insinuations. Yes you saw baby powder because they just had to get high before their next investor meeting which happened to be you. The britam fight seemed to have been concluded in court and I can easily see how this is old money protecting turf. Very clear! Are they unable to pay ... Not completely this pause on withdrawals is clearly a move to avoid a run on the fund that is tied to long term real estate.. I personally have been paid several times by this so called Ponzi scheme. You seem to have an axe to grind with cytonn and this seems to be personal. But if you do have facts please provide. Most of your insinuations unfortunately just seem to be your personal issue. Good luck though. Please don't call me a hater ... There is nothing you are doing to be hated. Post# 117 I asked Obi to sell to me the Cyntonn dream because he claimed to know these people personally Many people tried but all I could smell was Madoff. @alma was called a hater, @Rollout akaambiwa ana roll bangi and I think @enyands was trapped. Pole @Nyandi if the music has stopped On if I shortsold.. NO, there's no market for that here, hence this is the light green section, not blue otherwise I would have made money. Katika ile harakati ya kutafuta pesa lazima uumwe kidogo. Lessons have been learnt I get you but it depends. If you were planning to liquidate now the current cytonn situation is horrible. If your view is long term then avoiding a run on the fund is critical. In the CHYS investors a vast majority agreed to keep their money in. No money has been lost yet. Anyway we have been here long enough to see 10 year old conversation come up. We will come back to this conversation in a few years and I might be laughing to the bank or crying here on Wazua. I mean even kularaha lost money after he started a company here with fellow stock Kenya member. The esskay company was destroyed by the real cindano aka the real Massey and kularaha is still alive and well. We live and we learn. Actually the company we started is still alive, and holding many assets. Its also KRA compliant LOL. Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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tony stark		#838 Posted : Thursday, August 06, 2020 11:09:34 AM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/8/2008 Posts: 947		KulaRaha wrote: tony stark wrote: murchr wrote: tony stark wrote: paulkimani wrote: murchr wrote: In 2016 when we said that we smell the Maddoff cologne here tulifukuzwa. Kitumbua kime ingia mchanga? Haters gonna hate bro (hortons gonna hate ) we keep going with the truth bro Well this is interesting. Did you short sell their shares?? Are you making any money from these Maddoff cologne. You know at least Markopolos got a pay of from the SEC and published a book.. But paulkimani and divainvest look like troll accounts on Twitter. But as a hater can you please provide some information instead of insinuations. Yes you saw baby powder because they just had to get high before their next investor meeting which happened to be you. The britam fight seemed to have been concluded in court and I can easily see how this is old money protecting turf. Very clear! Are they unable to pay ... Not completely this pause on withdrawals is clearly a move to avoid a run on the fund that is tied to long term real estate.. I personally have been paid several times by this so called Ponzi scheme. You seem to have an axe to grind with cytonn and this seems to be personal. But if you do have facts please provide. Most of your insinuations unfortunately just seem to be your personal issue. Good luck though. Please don't call me a hater ... There is nothing you are doing to be hated. Post# 117 I asked Obi to sell to me the Cyntonn dream because he claimed to know these people personally Many people tried but all I could smell was Madoff. @alma was called a hater, @Rollout akaambiwa ana roll bangi and I think @enyands was trapped. Pole @Nyandi if the music has stopped On if I shortsold.. NO, there's no market for that here, hence this is the light green section, not blue otherwise I would have made money. Katika ile harakati ya kutafuta pesa lazima uumwe kidogo. Lessons have been learnt I get you but it depends. If you were planning to liquidate now the current cytonn situation is horrible. If your view is long term then avoiding a run on the fund is critical. In the CHYS investors a vast majority agreed to keep their money in. No money has been lost yet. Anyway we have been here long enough to see 10 year old conversation come up. We will come back to this conversation in a few years and I might be laughing to the bank or crying here on Wazua. I mean even kularaha lost money after he started a company here with fellow stock Kenya member. The esskay company was destroyed by the real cindano aka the real Massey and kularaha is still alive and well. We live and we learn. Actually the company we started is still alive, and holding many assets. Its also KRA compliant LOL. Congratulations. You should tell the story of the Eskay company on Wazua. It would be great to learn from! Also I am very glad The Real Massey aka The real Cindano did not collapse the company!!! It seems I am the paul Kimani of the Eskay company!! Organize, mobilize, viva!
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kaka2za		#839 Posted : Thursday, August 06, 2020 11:11:11 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,058 Location: Gwitu		KulaRaha wrote: tony stark wrote: murchr wrote: tony stark wrote: paulkimani wrote: murchr wrote: In 2016 when we said that we smell the Maddoff cologne here tulifukuzwa. Kitumbua kime ingia mchanga? Haters gonna hate bro (hortons gonna hate ) we keep going with the truth bro Well this is interesting. Did you short sell their shares?? Are you making any money from these Maddoff cologne. You know at least Markopolos got a pay of from the SEC and published a book.. But paulkimani and divainvest look like troll accounts on Twitter. But as a hater can you please provide some information instead of insinuations. Yes you saw baby powder because they just had to get high before their next investor meeting which happened to be you. The britam fight seemed to have been concluded in court and I can easily see how this is old money protecting turf. Very clear! Are they unable to pay ... Not completely this pause on withdrawals is clearly a move to avoid a run on the fund that is tied to long term real estate.. I personally have been paid several times by this so called Ponzi scheme. You seem to have an axe to grind with cytonn and this seems to be personal. But if you do have facts please provide. Most of your insinuations unfortunately just seem to be your personal issue. Good luck though. Please don't call me a hater ... There is nothing you are doing to be hated. Post# 117 I asked Obi to sell to me the Cyntonn dream because he claimed to know these people personally Many people tried but all I could smell was Madoff. @alma was called a hater, @Rollout akaambiwa ana roll bangi and I think @enyands was trapped. Pole @Nyandi if the music has stopped On if I shortsold.. NO, there's no market for that here, hence this is the light green section, not blue otherwise I would have made money. Katika ile harakati ya kutafuta pesa lazima uumwe kidogo. Lessons have been learnt I get you but it depends. If you were planning to liquidate now the current cytonn situation is horrible. If your view is long term then avoiding a run on the fund is critical. In the CHYS investors a vast majority agreed to keep their money in. No money has been lost yet. Anyway we have been here long enough to see 10 year old conversation come up. We will come back to this conversation in a few years and I might be laughing to the bank or crying here on Wazua. I mean even kularaha lost money after he started a company here with fellow stock Kenya member. The esskay company was destroyed by the real cindano aka the real Massey and kularaha is still alive and well. We live and we learn. Actually the company we started is still alive, and holding many assets. Its also KRA compliant LOL. Not crying yet. When the time comes to cry or celebrate we will all know Truth forever on the scaffold Wrong forever on the throne (James Russell Rowell)
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Angelica _ann		#840 Posted : Thursday, August 06, 2020 11:43:48 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,935		Some people had their doubts on the company, said as much on this thread and moved on. I guess many here agree with Paul Kimana's sentiments on Cytonn. But i guess they dont agree with the way he has been pushing the agenda (he is personal and vindictive ). In terms of doubting Cytonn, he came very late to the party, wazuans had highlighted everything earlier on this thread and there is another one hidden hapa hapa wazua. Ni hayo tu. In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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