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2017 Election results
kenmac
#821 Posted : Thursday, August 10, 2017 2:58:00 PM
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Joined: 5/26/2009
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Bree wrote:
hardwood wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
on a different note, they should introduce a requirement for some eloquence when it comes to the iebc chairman role, like a presidential debate before choosing one, this is a role that need decent communication skills.


Chiloba doing a better job than the chairman.


Absolutely my observations too. Old fork seems totally out of sync, defensive & zero confidence of what he's talking about. Did he loose out on something here?

CEO striking out as smart, sober & composed.. just love the great confidence he's showing the world.


What i see is a clear delineation of duties between them. questions, statisctisc and technicalities are handled by the CEO.

Questions on process are being handled by Chairman.

The team looks in sync and organised overall.

......Ecclesiastes
Njung'e
#822 Posted : Thursday, August 10, 2017 2:59:03 PM
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Joined: 2/7/2007
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Location: Nairobi
Kaigangio wrote:
[quote=hardwood]
He is being told politely..."hey chief you have lost and you have lost squarely and no excuse can change that fact. Go home". The old man does not get it.



There are lots of people around Babu who are his worst enemies. They lie to him and then make him lie to himself and to the whole world. Take the case of Jimmy!. If he so believes the entire election was manipulated, why has he not denounced his win in Siaya for a start?. POoR BABU!Pray
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
Uram
#823 Posted : Thursday, August 10, 2017 3:05:53 PM
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Joined: 10/24/2013
Posts: 455
Location: Nairobi
kenmac wrote:
safariant wrote:
Uram wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Uram wrote:
wazuaguest wrote:
Kerry says the process is credible.Live now


What next for NASA? If I was RAO, I would gracefully concede.

Yeah, this country needs to move on


Wambora now leading by 121 votes. 7 polling station to go


Embu, thrilling race. Down to the wire

@ 99.15%

1. MARTIN NYAGA Wambora JP 96 410 votes (38,80%)
2. LENNY MAXWELL KIVUTI MCCP 96 331 votes (38,77%)



this might be headed to the courts...

The over 5000 rejected votes, and over 500 would have very likely tipped the scales either way.


Wambora extends his lead to 581 votes. 3 polling stations remaining
Impunity
#824 Posted : Thursday, August 10, 2017 3:11:52 PM
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Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 26,335
Location: Masada
Uram wrote:
kenmac wrote:
safariant wrote:
Uram wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Uram wrote:
wazuaguest wrote:
Kerry says the process is credible.Live now


What next for NASA? If I was RAO, I would gracefully concede.

Yeah, this country needs to move on


Wambora now leading by 121 votes. 7 polling station to go


Embu, thrilling race. Down to the wire

@ 99.15%

1. MARTIN NYAGA Wambora JP 96 410 votes (38,80%)
2. LENNY MAXWELL KIVUTI MCCP 96 331 votes (38,77%)



this might be headed to the courts...

The over 5000 rejected votes, and over 500 would have very likely tipped the scales either way.


Wambora extends his lead to 581 votes. 3 polling stations remaining


3 days later people are still counting votes...sham election.
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Tokyo
#825 Posted : Thursday, August 10, 2017 3:11:52 PM
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Joined: 10/9/2006
Posts: 1,502
Unconfirmed: Raila has decide to concede anytime from now. Stay tuned
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Kaigangio
#826 Posted : Thursday, August 10, 2017 3:14:44 PM
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Joined: 2/27/2007
Posts: 2,768
innairobi wrote:
Kaigangio wrote:
@wakanyugi...you are very wrong...the mount kenya votes as per now is 4,382,000 votes.

This does not even include the votes from Nairobi and Nakuru regions.

Whoever inherits this block will either become a president in future or a king maker..


my prediction is that the mount kenya voting block will gradually split if ruto does become president in 2022-2032. alot can happen between now and then but no one in the region is looking like a clear leader especially given the defeat of peter kenneth.

ruto being the shrewd politician he is, one of the primary goals of his presidency will be to make sure there doesnt emerge a threat to him in mount kenya during his presidency. he'll support multiple competing leaders. he'll be good to mount kenya especially in his first term to make sure there isnt a groundswell of resentment that could create a competitor to his interests.

he'll however also build new alliances across the country to reduce his dependence on any remaining mount kenya block in his second term or for his preferred successor. there's no guarantee that ruto will prefer to be succeeded by a kikuyu or a person from mount kenya.

uhuru will certainly not endorse any kingpin in mount kenya given how that will be interpreted in rift valley. at the national level, uhuru will have to lie low politically until circa 2030 by which time his relevance in central kenya politics will have diminished dramatically. he will have nowhere near the central kenya influence he has today. central kenya will be back to the era of multiple leaders a.la matiba vs kibaki vs ruto's kamothos

embu and especially meru region will gradually break away if the kikuyu elite fail to throw their weight behind a meru/embu becoming ruto's running mate or successor.


Mount Kenya block is not splitting any time soon during Ruto's tenure. Moi himself tried that from 1978...and for the next 24 years it was hell for this region. Even Ruto himself knows that he cannot ignore the 4.5m votes and he will do anything possible to retain it.

Like i told you, if their economic and social interests are threatened and a leader emerges who can lead them (not the baba style), the block is simply his. Think of Matiba and Kibaki...
...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
Kaigangio
#827 Posted : Thursday, August 10, 2017 3:17:49 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 2/27/2007
Posts: 2,768
Njung'e wrote:
Kaigangio wrote:
[quote=hardwood]
He is being told politely..."hey chief you have lost and you have lost squarely and no excuse can change that fact. Go home". The old man does not get it.



There are lots of people around Babu who are his worst enemies. They lie to him and then make him lie to himself and to the whole world. Take the case of Jimmy!. If he so believes the entire election was manipulated, why has he not denounced his win in Siaya for a start?. POoR BABU!Pray


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Come to think of it wathiomo. The old man needs a lot of prayers not players...the players have messed up his head completely..
...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
kingfisher
#828 Posted : Thursday, August 10, 2017 3:18:44 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 4/9/2008
Posts: 2,824
Kaigangio wrote:
innairobi wrote:
Kaigangio wrote:
@wakanyugi...you are very wrong...the mount kenya votes as per now is 4,382,000 votes.

This does not even include the votes from Nairobi and Nakuru regions.

Whoever inherits this block will either become a president in future or a king maker..


my prediction is that the mount kenya voting block will gradually split if ruto does become president in 2022-2032. alot can happen between now and then but no one in the region is looking like a clear leader especially given the defeat of peter kenneth.

ruto being the shrewd politician he is, one of the primary goals of his presidency will be to make sure there doesnt emerge a threat to him in mount kenya during his presidency. he'll support multiple competing leaders. he'll be good to mount kenya especially in his first term to make sure there isnt a groundswell of resentment that could create a competitor to his interests.

he'll however also build new alliances across the country to reduce his dependence on any remaining mount kenya block in his second term or for his preferred successor. there's no guarantee that ruto will prefer to be succeeded by a kikuyu or a person from mount kenya.

uhuru will certainly not endorse any kingpin in mount kenya given how that will be interpreted in rift valley. at the national level, uhuru will have to lie low politically until circa 2030 by which time his relevance in central kenya politics will have diminished dramatically. he will have nowhere near the central kenya influence he has today. central kenya will be back to the era of multiple leaders a.la matiba vs kibaki vs ruto's kamothos

embu and especially meru region will gradually break away if the kikuyu elite fail to throw their weight behind a meru/embu becoming ruto's running mate or successor.


Mount Kenya block is not splitting any time soon during Ruto's tenure. Moi himself tried that from 1978...and for the next 24 years it was hell for this region. Even Ruto himself knows that he cannot ignore the 4.5m votes and he will do anything possible to retain it.

Like i told you, if their economic and social interests are threatened and a leader emerges who can lead them (not the baba style), the block is simply his. Think of Matiba and Kibaki...


I am getting an idea here.
When I have money, I get rid of it quickly, lest it find a way into my heart.
hardwood
#829 Posted : Thursday, August 10, 2017 3:24:24 PM
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Joined: 7/28/2015
Posts: 9,562
Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
Tokyo wrote:
Unconfirmed: Raila has decide to concede anytime from now. Stay tuned


I understand that all the form 34A and 34B's that have been perused so far tally 100% with the provisional results that were projected by IEBC. And thus the decision to concede.

.
kaka2za
#830 Posted : Thursday, August 10, 2017 3:31:42 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 10/3/2008
Posts: 4,058
Location: Gwitu
Uram wrote:
kenmac wrote:
safariant wrote:
Uram wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Uram wrote:
wazuaguest wrote:
Kerry says the process is credible.Live now


What next for NASA? If I was RAO, I would gracefully concede.

Yeah, this country needs to move on


Wambora now leading by 121 votes. 7 polling station to go


Embu, thrilling race. Down to the wire

@ 99.15%

1. MARTIN NYAGA Wambora JP 96 410 votes (38,80%)
2. LENNY MAXWELL KIVUTI MCCP 96 331 votes (38,77%)



this might be headed to the courts...

The over 5000 rejected votes, and over 500 would have very likely tipped the scales either way.


Wambora extends his lead to 581 votes. 3 polling stations remaining


560 objected votes! I see a by election here
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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