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Uhuru versus Raila 2017
Realtreaty
#801 Posted : Sunday, June 18, 2017 9:24:39 PM
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Raila knows he is losing. His main aim is to make ODM stronger party in the Nasa coalition and reason he has not accepted to remove ODM candidates in places where other coalition parties have following.
He still think he will be influential come 2022 GE to push for an ODM candidate.
During an ODM GC meet he raised his voice saying that even if they lose to Kenyatta, they must lose with majority ODM candidates win to make sure 2022 tough for others.
His aim will be sit and choose a young ODM candidate early enough to beat Ruto 2022.
Gathige
#802 Posted : Sunday, June 18, 2017 9:45:06 PM
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gk wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:

What Raila said in Kiajiado.

Verbatim - kiswahili

"Jamii ya masai wanauza shamba sababu ya ufukara, gharama ya maisha iko juu, sasa mtu anatoka huko kwao anakuja kununua shamba, msiuze shamba. NASA ikishukua usukani tutabadilisha hiyo. Serikali yetu itamaliza umaskini ili msilazimike kuuza."

English translation

Masai comuunity is selling land because of poverty. The cost of living is high people are coming from other places to come and buy your land. Do not sell to them. If NASA takes over leadership, we will change that. We will address poverty so you don't have to sell.

What Jubilants/kameme fm heard.

Raila odinga has asked non-locals to leave kajiado.


Tehehe.....what a bad joke, ati Masai sell land out of poverty!! Yenyewe economics ni ngumu!



Maasai sell land as they have plenty of it and not out of poverty. The problem with the Lord of poverty is see sees everything through the lens of poverty.
"Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
Theu
#803 Posted : Sunday, June 18, 2017 10:27:27 PM
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washiku
#804 Posted : Sunday, June 18, 2017 10:58:00 PM
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FRM2011 wrote:
washiku wrote:
Uhuruto campaigning so hard. You would think they are running on steroids. Wale wanaoshindana na wao wamenyamaza sana...isipokuwa kwa press conferences. @FRM11, What's cutting?


Have you ever put a multibet of 5 games, the first 4 are in and the last is good by halftime ? Bro you go quiet as you wait for the final whistle.

WSR had a hectic time jana in iten. Today, he was heckled by a crowd in fort tenan kericho.

We have 27 counties locked in. 20 of those with >80% votes. We are quietly working on some swing votes.


Buda, this kind of reasoning might cost us you come 8/8. Think about today for example. Was watching News and as usual the media houses are giving the two leading factions leading mentions. On one hard, NASA chance was used up by Raila doing a press conference. A PRESS CONFERENCE, again. With young and energetic follower standing behind him instead of being on the ground talking to real voters. On the other hand, the duo were shown combing village after village across Kiambu, meeting the real voters. At this rate, by the time you wait for the final whistle you will be doing a lot of catch up. Honestly, it seems only you is excited about this NASA campaign.
Fyatu
#805 Posted : Monday, June 19, 2017 8:40:11 AM
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This is the truth and hence the fallout between Joho and Omar, Khalwale demanding Oparanya to account and the main reason why Mvurya was pushed out of ODM.....Mvurya refused to give Kwale county funds to hire a chopper for Baba
Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
madollar
#806 Posted : Monday, June 19, 2017 11:57:31 AM
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washiku wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
washiku wrote:
Uhuruto campaigning so hard. You would think they are running on steroids. Wale wanaoshindana na wao wamenyamaza sana...isipokuwa kwa press conferences. @FRM11, What's cutting?


Have you ever put a multibet of 5 games, the first 4 are in and the last is good by halftime ? Bro you go quiet as you wait for the final whistle.

WSR had a hectic time jana in iten. Today, he was heckled by a crowd in fort tenan kericho.

We have 27 counties locked in. 20 of those with >80% votes. We are quietly working on some swing votes.


Buda, this kind of reasoning might cost us you come 8/8. Think about today for example. Was watching News and as usual the media houses are giving the two leading factions leading mentions. On one hard, NASA chance was used up by Raila doing a press conference. A PRESS CONFERENCE, again. With young and energetic follower standing behind him instead of being on the ground talking to real voters. On the other hand, the duo were shown combing village after village across Kiambu, meeting the real voters. At this rate, by the time you wait for the final whistle you will be doing a lot of catch up. Honestly, it seems only you is excited about this NASA campaign.

If you look at the campaign trail raila looks like the incumbent while Uhuru the challenger
FRM2011
#807 Posted : Monday, June 19, 2017 12:35:07 PM
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madollar wrote:
washiku wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
washiku wrote:
Uhuruto campaigning so hard. You would think they are running on steroids. Wale wanaoshindana na wao wamenyamaza sana...isipokuwa kwa press conferences. @FRM11, What's cutting?


Have you ever put a multibet of 5 games, the first 4 are in and the last is good by halftime ? Bro you go quiet as you wait for the final whistle.

WSR had a hectic time jana in iten. Today, he was heckled by a crowd in fort tenan kericho.

We have 27 counties locked in. 20 of those with >80% votes. We are quietly working on some swing votes.


Buda, this kind of reasoning might cost us you come 8/8. Think about today for example. Was watching News and as usual the media houses are giving the two leading factions leading mentions. On one hard, NASA chance was used up by Raila doing a press conference. A PRESS CONFERENCE, again. With young and energetic follower standing behind him instead of being on the ground talking to real voters. On the other hand, the duo were shown combing village after village across Kiambu, meeting the real voters. At this rate, by the time you wait for the final whistle you will be doing a lot of catch up. Honestly, it seems only you is excited about this NASA campaign.

If you look at the campaign trail raila looks like the incumbent while Uhuru the challenger


Its interesting. We see what we want to see. On saturday, Isaac was in Bomet, Rao/weta was in Meru, madvd was in western. Today, we have a road show in Nairobi. Dagoreti north and westlands constituencies. For guidance these two are locked to NASA plus ruaraka, makadara, kibra, langata, mathare and three of the embakasi five.

As at friday, we are taking it with 54% of the votes.
Njung'e
#808 Posted : Monday, June 19, 2017 1:08:38 PM
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madollar wrote:
[quote=washiku][quote=FRM2011][quote=washiku]
If you look at the campaign trail raila looks like the incumbent while Uhuru the challenger


Laughing out loudly ......Anyway,for me the most comical thinking in NASA is that since there is some disquiet in Meru and Tharaka Nithi, the outright beneficiary is NASA! Shock awaits.
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
freiks
#809 Posted : Monday, June 19, 2017 5:37:00 PM
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Njung'e wrote:
madollar wrote:
[quote=washiku][quote=FRM2011][quote=washiku]
If you look at the campaign trail raila looks like the incumbent while Uhuru the challenger


Laughing out loudly ......Anyway,for me the most comical thinking in NASA is that since there is some disquiet in Meru and Tharaka Nithi, the outright beneficiary is NASA! Shock awaits.

I am from T/Nithi and the biggest shock will hit some guys and they will say kimeimbiyo, We have a bird in our place called ngoyo, it makes alot of noise when it sees an eagle but the eagle never changes its resolve to get its prey
Life is an endless adventure
Lolest!
#810 Posted : Monday, June 19, 2017 6:36:10 PM
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FRM2011 wrote:
newfarer wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:

What Raila said in Kiajiado.

Verbatim - kiswahili

"Jamii ya masai wanauza shamba sababu ya ufukara, gharama ya maisha iko juu, sasa mtu anatoka huko kwao anakuja kununua shamba, msiuze shamba. NASA ikishukua usukani tutabadilisha hiyo. Serikali yetu itamaliza umaskini ili msilazimike kuuza."

English translation

Masai comuunity is selling land because of poverty. The cost of living is high people are coming from other places to come and buy your land. Do not sell to them. If NASA takes over leadership, we will change that. We will address poverty so you don't have to sell.

What Jubilants/kameme fm heard.

Raila odinga has asked non-locals to leave kajiado.

if true,then what's inciting on this?



Check the clip online. Its available.

@FRM2011 has carefully edited Raila's words. Just like some sections of the media

If Raila has just advised Kajiado people against selling land nobody would have an issue. It's the middle part that has been carefully edited out that is the problem.

But he also said 'Wanavamia wanavamia...kwa nini wasikae kwao mbona wanakuja kwako(kwenu)...si wakae kwao? Si wakae kwao?'

Nobody would be happy to be called a mvamizi(intruder, invader)

The moment you call people invaders, you imply they shouldn't be there in the first place. They have no rights. Then you add mbona wanakuja kwako, si wakae kwao...very reckless.
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