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The Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant
harrydre
#1601 Posted : Wednesday, October 05, 2016 8:47:17 PM
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Anti_Burglar wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
I think the battle ground in Syria is just about to get tougher.

Uncle Sam has been threatening Russia saying things like body bags will soon be arriving in Moscow. Well with the new shipment of S300 to Syria, the long desired no-fly zone in Syria will never happen. Syria will not be another Libya with tomahawks zipping over the skies.

Thank God for Russia!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm with you on this one. The moment Russia realized the monkey business Uncle Sam was doing (creating and supplying weapons to rebels and duping it Caliph), they told them: dare mess with Nuclear Russia! For once the bully got someone to stand up against him!



It is a new world. A multi polar world. Interesting times ahead.


Uncle Sam's economy is 16 times that of Russia. Wait mama aingie, Putin atakipata. The reason he wants Trumpamba is coz they are buddies and Trumpamba owes them
i.am.back!!!!
Anti_Burglar
#1602 Posted : Thursday, October 06, 2016 9:07:06 AM
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Joined: 9/11/2015
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harrydre wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
I think the battle ground in Syria is just about to get tougher.

Uncle Sam has been threatening Russia saying things like body bags will soon be arriving in Moscow. Well with the new shipment of S300 to Syria, the long desired no-fly zone in Syria will never happen. Syria will not be another Libya with tomahawks zipping over the skies.

Thank God for Russia!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm with you on this one. The moment Russia realized the monkey business Uncle Sam was doing (creating and supplying weapons to rebels and duping it Caliph), they told them: dare mess with Nuclear Russia! For once the bully got someone to stand up against him!



It is a new world. A multi polar world. Interesting times ahead.


Uncle Sam's economy is 16 times that of Russia. Wait mama aingie, Putin atakipata. The reason he wants Trumpamba is coz they are buddies and Trumpamba owes them


With an economy 16 times smaller than Uncle Sam - but still taking them on head on regardless - surely they have something up their sleeves that will shatter the 'exceptionalist' reverie - and we are not talking about some obscure third world country that imports arms from third parties, the kind that Uncle Sam has some experience rooting out safely with minimal side effects.
AlphDoti
#1603 Posted : Thursday, October 06, 2016 11:56:20 AM
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Anti_Burglar wrote:
harrydre wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
I think the battle ground in Syria is just about to get tougher.

Uncle Sam has been threatening Russia saying things like body bags will soon be arriving in Moscow. Well with the new shipment of S300 to Syria, the long desired no-fly zone in Syria will never happen. Syria will not be another Libya with tomahawks zipping over the skies.

Thank God for Russia!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm with you on this one. The moment Russia realized the monkey business Uncle Sam was doing (creating and supplying weapons to rebels and duping it Caliph), they told them: dare mess with Nuclear Russia! For once the bully got someone to stand up against him!

It is a new world. A multi polar world. Interesting times ahead.

Uncle Sam's economy is 16 times that of Russia. Wait mama aingie, Putin atakipata. The reason he wants Trumpamba is coz they are buddies and Trumpamba owes them

With an economy 16 times smaller than Uncle Sam - but still taking them on head on regardless - surely they have something up their sleeves that will shatter the 'exceptionalist' reverie - and we are not talking about some obscure third world country that imports arms from third parties, the kind that Uncle Sam has some experience rooting out safely with minimal side effects.

Well, Putin is a "friend" to China which has already surpassed Uncle.Sam to become largest world economy in 2014...
Anti_Burglar
#1604 Posted : Thursday, October 06, 2016 12:13:45 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
harrydre wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
I think the battle ground in Syria is just about to get tougher.

Uncle Sam has been threatening Russia saying things like body bags will soon be arriving in Moscow. Well with the new shipment of S300 to Syria, the long desired no-fly zone in Syria will never happen. Syria will not be another Libya with tomahawks zipping over the skies.

Thank God for Russia!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm with you on this one. The moment Russia realized the monkey business Uncle Sam was doing (creating and supplying weapons to rebels and duping it Caliph), they told them: dare mess with Nuclear Russia! For once the bully got someone to stand up against him!

It is a new world. A multi polar world. Interesting times ahead.

Uncle Sam's economy is 16 times that of Russia. Wait mama aingie, Putin atakipata. The reason he wants Trumpamba is coz they are buddies and Trumpamba owes them

With an economy 16 times smaller than Uncle Sam - but still taking them on head on regardless - surely they have something up their sleeves that will shatter the 'exceptionalist' reverie - and we are not talking about some obscure third world country that imports arms from third parties, the kind that Uncle Sam has some experience rooting out safely with minimal side effects.

Well, Putin is a "friend" to China which has already surpassed Uncle.Sam to become largest world economy in 2014...


Yes. But now there is no point talking about who is stronger or not. The facts on the ground speak for themselves. A next logical step is for a repeat of Afghanistan, allowing arms through Saudi Arabia etc to the Islamist 'rebels' and hope they will eject the validly elected government and its' backer while also hoping that Afghan lessons have not been learnt by the adversary which is a strange illusion at best.


AlphDoti
#1605 Posted : Thursday, October 06, 2016 12:27:16 PM
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Anti_Burglar wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
harrydre wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
I think the battle ground in Syria is just about to get tougher.

Uncle Sam has been threatening Russia saying things like body bags will soon be arriving in Moscow. Well with the new shipment of S300 to Syria, the long desired no-fly zone in Syria will never happen. Syria will not be another Libya with tomahawks zipping over the skies.

Thank God for Russia!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm with you on this one. The moment Russia realized the monkey business Uncle Sam was doing (creating and supplying weapons to rebels and duping it Caliph), they told them: dare mess with Nuclear Russia! For once the bully got someone to stand up against him!

It is a new world. A multi polar world. Interesting times ahead.

Uncle Sam's economy is 16 times that of Russia. Wait mama aingie, Putin atakipata. The reason he wants Trumpamba is coz they are buddies and Trumpamba owes them

With an economy 16 times smaller than Uncle Sam - but still taking them on head on regardless - surely they have something up their sleeves that will shatter the 'exceptionalist' reverie - and we are not talking about some obscure third world country that imports arms from third parties, the kind that Uncle Sam has some experience rooting out safely with minimal side effects.

Well, Putin is a "friend" to China which has already surpassed Uncle.Sam to become largest world economy in 2014...

Yes. But now there is no point talking about who is stronger or not. The facts on the ground speak for themselves. A next logical step is for a repeat of Afghanistan, allowing arms through Saudi Arabia etc to the Islamist 'rebels' and hope they will eject the validly elected government and its' backer while also hoping that Afghan lessons have not been learnt by the adversary which is a strange illusion at best.

This was for @harrydre FYI... Coz he seems to be behind the news.
AlphDoti
#1606 Posted : Thursday, October 06, 2016 3:42:36 PM
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Fake News and False Flags. How they use propaganda, which fools even the elite like @ecstacy...

Quote:
Grey ops

The work consisted of three types of products. The first was television commercials portraying al Qaeda in a negative light. The second was news items which were made to look as if they had been “created by Arabic TV”, Wells said. Bell Pottinger would send teams out to film low-definition video of al Qaeda bombings and then edit it like a piece of news footage. It would be voiced in Arabic and distributed to TV stations across the region, according to Wells.

The American origins of the news items were sometimes kept hidden. In 2005, revelations that PR contractor the Lincoln Group had helped the Pentagon place articles in Iraqi newspapers – sometimes presented as unbiased news – led to a DoD investigation.


Black ops
The third and most sensitive programme described by Wells was the production of fake al Qaeda propaganda films. He told the Bureau how the videos were made. He was given precise instructions: “We need to make this style of video and we’ve got to use al Qaeda’s footage,” he was told. “We need it to be 10 minutes long, and it needs to be in this file format, and we need to encode it in this manner.”

US marines would take the CDs on patrol and drop them in the chaos when they raided targets. Wells said: “If they’re raiding a house and they’re going to make a mess of it looking for stuff anyway, they’d just drop an odd CD there.”
Obi 1 Kanobi
#1607 Posted : Thursday, October 06, 2016 3:59:02 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
Fake News and False Flags. How they use propaganda, which fools even the elite like @ecstacy...

Quote:
Grey ops

The work consisted of three types of products. The first was television commercials portraying al Qaeda in a negative light. The second was news items which were made to look as if they had been “created by Arabic TV”, Wells said. Bell Pottinger would send teams out to film low-definition video of al Qaeda bombings and then edit it like a piece of news footage. It would be voiced in Arabic and distributed to TV stations across the region, according to Wells.

The American origins of the news items were sometimes kept hidden. In 2005, revelations that PR contractor the Lincoln Group had helped the Pentagon place articles in Iraqi newspapers – sometimes presented as unbiased news – led to a DoD investigation.


Black ops
The third and most sensitive programme described by Wells was the production of fake al Qaeda propaganda films. He told the Bureau how the videos were made. He was given precise instructions: “We need to make this style of video and we’ve got to use al Qaeda’s footage,” he was told. “We need it to be 10 minutes long, and it needs to be in this file format, and we need to encode it in this manner.”

US marines would take the CDs on patrol and drop them in the chaos when they raided targets. Wells said: “If they’re raiding a house and they’re going to make a mess of it looking for stuff anyway, they’d just drop an odd CD there.”


@Alphadoti, you are a relentless 1 man army against the US.

Reminds me of a series called "Barbarians Rising". it basically tells the story of those who rose to fight the Roman empire.

It took 3,000 year for Rome to implode from within but it happened anyway. The US as it currently is will only implode from within, so atleast I hope you are responsible for planting "Agent Trump".
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
AlphDoti
#1608 Posted : Thursday, October 06, 2016 5:19:08 PM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Fake News and False Flags. How they use propaganda, which fools even the elite like @ecstacy...

Quote:
Grey ops

The work consisted of three types of products. The first was television commercials portraying al Qaeda in a negative light. The second was news items which were made to look as if they had been “created by Arabic TV”, Wells said. Bell Pottinger would send teams out to film low-definition video of al Qaeda bombings and then edit it like a piece of news footage. It would be voiced in Arabic and distributed to TV stations across the region, according to Wells.

The American origins of the news items were sometimes kept hidden. In 2005, revelations that PR contractor the Lincoln Group had helped the Pentagon place articles in Iraqi newspapers – sometimes presented as unbiased news – led to a DoD investigation.


Black ops
The third and most sensitive programme described by Wells was the production of fake al Qaeda propaganda films. He told the Bureau how the videos were made. He was given precise instructions: “We need to make this style of video and we’ve got to use al Qaeda’s footage,” he was told. “We need it to be 10 minutes long, and it needs to be in this file format, and we need to encode it in this manner.”

US marines would take the CDs on patrol and drop them in the chaos when they raided targets. Wells said: “If they’re raiding a house and they’re going to make a mess of it looking for stuff anyway, they’d just drop an odd CD there.”

@Alphadoti, you are a relentless 1 man army against the US.

Reminds me of a series called "Barbarians Rising". it basically tells the story of those who rose to fight the Roman empire.

It took 3,000 year for Rome to implode from within but it happened anyway. The US as it currently is will only implode from within, so atleast I hope you are responsible for planting "Agent Trump".

When you see people being cheated into hating someone for no reason but propaganda, you just wonder. I watch documentaries like below and I feel like crying


On water supply alone: this is what he achieved




guru267
#1609 Posted : Thursday, October 06, 2016 5:42:11 PM
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Anti_Burglar wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
harrydre wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
I think the battle ground in Syria is just about to get tougher.

Uncle Sam has been threatening Russia saying things like body bags will soon be arriving in Moscow. Well with the new shipment of S300 to Syria, the long desired no-fly zone in Syria will never happen. Syria will not be another Libya with tomahawks zipping over the skies.

Thank God for Russia!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm with you on this one. The moment Russia realized the monkey business Uncle Sam was doing (creating and supplying weapons to rebels and duping it Caliph), they told them: dare mess with Nuclear Russia! For once the bully got someone to stand up against him!

It is a new world. A multi polar world. Interesting times ahead.

Uncle Sam's economy is 16 times that of Russia. Wait mama aingie, Putin atakipata. The reason he wants Trumpamba is coz they are buddies and Trumpamba owes them

With an economy 16 times smaller than Uncle Sam - but still taking them on head on regardless - surely they have something up their sleeves that will shatter the 'exceptionalist' reverie - and we are not talking about some obscure third world country that imports arms from third parties, the kind that Uncle Sam has some experience rooting out safely with minimal side effects.

Well, Putin is a "friend" to China which has already surpassed Uncle.Sam to become largest world economy in 2014...


Yes. But now there is no point talking about who is stronger or not. The facts on the ground speak for themselves. A next logical step is for a repeat of Afghanistan, allowing arms through Saudi Arabia etc to the Islamist 'rebels' and hope they will eject the validly elected government and its' backer while also hoping that Afghan lessons have not been learnt by the adversary which is a strange illusion at best.




I'm waiting to see what's next once Assad leaves power. I'm waiting to see how these so called moderate rebels will relate with US once they have power. I foresee another Bin Laden thing happening.
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
Nandwa
#1610 Posted : Friday, October 07, 2016 8:46:07 AM
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I expected better from the resident self styled Muslim defenders not the usual reactionism aka knee jerk hatred for USA.

How are the people of Syria subjected to untold suffering supposed to be helped out of the quagmire by the rest of the world!

Who is offering a practical and sustainable way towards normalisation of the situation in Syria.

Where do the Syrian refugees wish to flee to? Russia!!!!
Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
Anti_Burglar
#1611 Posted : Friday, October 07, 2016 9:18:46 AM
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Nandwa wrote:
I expected better from the resident self styled Muslim defenders not the usual reactionism aka knee jerk hatred for USA.

How are the people of Syria subjected to untold suffering supposed to be helped out of the quagmire by the rest of the world!

Who is offering a practical and sustainable way towards normalisation of the situation in Syria.

Where do the Syrian refugees wish to flee to? Russia!!!!



Opposition to USA is not always a knee jerk hatred thing. It is often well thought out and it often based on data and evidence. A first step towards normalisation of the situation is to stop supplying arms to evil groups intent on overthrowing an already existing government! Thats a no brainer.
Anti_Burglar
#1612 Posted : Friday, October 07, 2016 9:20:23 AM
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guru267 wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
harrydre wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
I think the battle ground in Syria is just about to get tougher.

Uncle Sam has been threatening Russia saying things like body bags will soon be arriving in Moscow. Well with the new shipment of S300 to Syria, the long desired no-fly zone in Syria will never happen. Syria will not be another Libya with tomahawks zipping over the skies.

Thank God for Russia!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm with you on this one. The moment Russia realized the monkey business Uncle Sam was doing (creating and supplying weapons to rebels and duping it Caliph), they told them: dare mess with Nuclear Russia! For once the bully got someone to stand up against him!

It is a new world. A multi polar world. Interesting times ahead.

Uncle Sam's economy is 16 times that of Russia. Wait mama aingie, Putin atakipata. The reason he wants Trumpamba is coz they are buddies and Trumpamba owes them

With an economy 16 times smaller than Uncle Sam - but still taking them on head on regardless - surely they have something up their sleeves that will shatter the 'exceptionalist' reverie - and we are not talking about some obscure third world country that imports arms from third parties, the kind that Uncle Sam has some experience rooting out safely with minimal side effects.

Well, Putin is a "friend" to China which has already surpassed Uncle.Sam to become largest world economy in 2014...


Yes. But now there is no point talking about who is stronger or not. The facts on the ground speak for themselves. A next logical step is for a repeat of Afghanistan, allowing arms through Saudi Arabia etc to the Islamist 'rebels' and hope they will eject the validly elected government and its' backer while also hoping that Afghan lessons have not been learnt by the adversary which is a strange illusion at best.




I'm waiting to see what's next once Assad leaves power. I'm waiting to see how these so called moderate rebels will relate with US once they have power. I foresee another Bin Laden thing happening.


Of course he will not be president forever. Why are Islamists taking arms from USA? This disconnect I cannot fathom.
enyands
#1613 Posted : Friday, October 07, 2016 9:22:59 AM
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guru267 wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
harrydre wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
I think the battle ground in Syria is just about to get tougher.

Uncle Sam has been threatening Russia saying things like body bags will soon be arriving in Moscow. Well with the new shipment of S300 to Syria, the long desired no-fly zone in Syria will never happen. Syria will not be another Libya with tomahawks zipping over the skies.

Thank God for Russia!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm with you on this one. The moment Russia realized the monkey business Uncle Sam was doing (creating and supplying weapons to rebels and duping it Caliph), they told them: dare mess with Nuclear Russia! For once the bully got someone to stand up against him!

It is a new world. A multi polar world. Interesting times ahead.

Uncle Sam's economy is 16 times that of Russia. Wait mama aingie, Putin atakipata. The reason he wants Trumpamba is coz they are buddies and Trumpamba owes them

With an economy 16 times smaller than Uncle Sam - but still taking them on head on regardless - surely they have something up their sleeves that will shatter the 'exceptionalist' reverie - and we are not talking about some obscure third world country that imports arms from third parties, the kind that Uncle Sam has some experience rooting out safely with minimal side effects.

Well, Putin is a "friend" to China which has already surpassed Uncle.Sam to become largest world economy in 2014...


Yes. But now there is no point talking about who is stronger or not. The facts on the ground speak for themselves. A next logical step is for a repeat of Afghanistan, allowing arms through Saudi Arabia etc to the Islamist 'rebels' and hope they will eject the validly elected government and its' backer while also hoping that Afghan lessons have not been learnt by the adversary which is a strange illusion at best.




I'm waiting to see what's next once Assad leaves power. I'm waiting to see how these so called moderate rebels will relate with US once they have power. I foresee another Bin Laden thing happening.


Why mention bin Laden start with our own. ..Gaddafi
Nandwa
#1614 Posted : Friday, October 07, 2016 9:39:25 AM
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enyands wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
harrydre wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
I think the battle ground in Syria is just about to get tougher.

Uncle Sam has been threatening Russia saying things like body bags will soon be arriving in Moscow. Well with the new shipment of S300 to Syria, the long desired no-fly zone in Syria will never happen. Syria will not be another Libya with tomahawks zipping over the skies.

Thank God for Russia!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm with you on this one. The moment Russia realized the monkey business Uncle Sam was doing (creating and supplying weapons to rebels and duping it Caliph), they told them: dare mess with Nuclear Russia! For once the bully got someone to stand up against him!

It is a new world. A multi polar world. Interesting times ahead.

Uncle Sam's economy is 16 times that of Russia. Wait mama aingie, Putin atakipata. The reason he wants Trumpamba is coz they are buddies and Trumpamba owes them

With an economy 16 times smaller than Uncle Sam - but still taking them on head on regardless - surely they have something up their sleeves that will shatter the 'exceptionalist' reverie - and we are not talking about some obscure third world country that imports arms from third parties, the kind that Uncle Sam has some experience rooting out safely with minimal side effects.

Well, Putin is a "friend" to China which has already surpassed Uncle.Sam to become largest world economy in 2014...


Yes. But now there is no point talking about who is stronger or not. The facts on the ground speak for themselves. A next logical step is for a repeat of Afghanistan, allowing arms through Saudi Arabia etc to the Islamist 'rebels' and hope they will eject the validly elected government and its' backer while also hoping that Afghan lessons have not been learnt by the adversary which is a strange illusion at best.




I'm waiting to see what's next once Assad leaves power. I'm waiting to see how these so called moderate rebels will relate with US once they have power. I foresee another Bin Laden thing happening.


Why mention bin Laden start with our own. ..Gaddafi

Goodness me!

If a child next door is in distress or suffering abuse, when you act to help them do you do so in order that they kowtow to you thereafter Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
In a civilised society, responsible citizens in society must stand up to the abusers and call for justice for the weak.

This goes for Syria just as it does for South Sudan.

Whatever happens after the abusive subsides is for the people to decide.
Look at what happened in Egypt, at one point the Islamic Brotherhood took over.

Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
Anti_Burglar
#1615 Posted : Tuesday, October 11, 2016 11:02:29 AM
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Sometimes the things this superpower does .......... this one has no defense no matter how one tries to spin it.

Why paint your F/A-18 Hornets to look like your adversary's Sukhoi Su-35? Are you up to some mischief in Syria? Do you want Alphdoti to regale us with more false flag stories........Some of us saw through Americas supposed veil of virginity and found whoredoms.

AlphDoti
#1616 Posted : Tuesday, October 11, 2016 5:50:15 PM
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Anti_Burglar wrote:


Sometimes the things this superpower does .......... this one has no defense no matter how one tries to spin it.

Why paint your F/A-18 Hornets to look like your adversary's Sukhoi Su-35? Are you up to some mischief in Syria? Do you want Alphdoti to regale us with more false flag stories........Some of us saw through Americas supposed veil of virginity and found whoredoms.


@burglar, I've not studied this subject of "false flag" i.e. painting your get away car to look like your that of your enemy smile smile
Intelligentsia
#1617 Posted : Wednesday, October 12, 2016 12:09:16 PM
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Anti_Burglar wrote:


Sometimes the things this superpower does .......... this one has no defense no matter how one tries to spin it.

Why paint your F/A-18 Hornets to look like your adversary's Sukhoi Su-35? Are you up to some mischief in Syria? Do you want Alphdoti to regale us with more false flag stories........Some of us saw through Americas supposed veil of virginity and found whoredoms.




Air force's have over decades been simulating & even conducting aerial trainings & manoeuvres (sorties/ dogfights) using enemy aircraft to assess performance of the enemy's craft as well as their own against the same aircraft. Even using their paint schemes is fair game.

1) The Hornet here is the 'aggressor' fighter
(simulates a 'bogey'/ 'bandit'- hostile and
unidentified aircrafts), used for training
purposes.

2) This appears a 2014 or so vid, not Syrian theatre, go to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QunNlF7-BUE

Or could be Uncle Sam is terrified (justifiably so) of the lethal, very formidable and very highly capable Russian S-400 missile SAM (can shoot any flying object - even one as small as a football travelling at supersonic speed).

Anti_Burglar
#1618 Posted : Wednesday, October 12, 2016 12:53:07 PM
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Intelligentsia wrote:



Air force's have over decades been simulating & even conducting aerial trainings & manoeuvres (sorties/ dogfights) using enemy aircraft to assess performance of the enemy's craft as well as their own against the same aircraft. Even using their paint schemes is fair game.

1) The Hornet here is the 'aggressor' fighter
(simulates a 'bogey'/ 'bandit'- hostile and
unidentified aircrafts), used for training
purposes.

2) This appears a 2014 or so vid, not Syrian theatre, go to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QunNlF7-BUE

Or could be Uncle Sam is terrified (justifiably so) of the lethal, very formidable and very highly capable Russian S-400 missile SAM (can shoot any flying object - even one as small as a football travelling at supersonic speed).



Oh, Intelligentsia, who needs to repaint planes for "training"? USAF? The greatest airforce in the world? These are not WW2 planes. They have all sorts of cutting edge electronics to identify friend and foe (IFF systems) which enables the super clever pilots to fight at night, in bad weather and even . . . . in zero visibility. Surely. trying to explain this away is comical.

Remember the vial of white powder brandished in the UN Assembly that could be and was to be launched in 45 minutes ........
Ngalaka
#1619 Posted : Wednesday, October 12, 2016 1:24:12 PM
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Anti_Burglar wrote:
Intelligentsia wrote:



Air force's have over decades been simulating & even conducting aerial trainings & manoeuvres (sorties/ dogfights) using enemy aircraft to assess performance of the enemy's craft as well as their own against the same aircraft. Even using their paint schemes is fair game.

1) The Hornet here is the 'aggressor' fighter
(simulates a 'bogey'/ 'bandit'- hostile and
unidentified aircrafts), used for training
purposes.

2) This appears a 2014 or so vid, not Syrian theatre, go to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QunNlF7-BUE

Or could be Uncle Sam is terrified (justifiably so) of the lethal, very formidable and very highly capable Russian S-400 missile SAM (can shoot any flying object - even one as small as a football travelling at supersonic speed).



Oh, Intelligentsia, who needs to repaint planes for "training"? USAF? The greatest airforce in the world? These are not WW2 planes. They have all sorts of cutting edge electronics to identify friend and foe (IFF systems) which enables the super clever pilots to fight at night, in bad weather and even . . . . in zero visibility. Surely. trying to explain this away is comical.

Remember the vial of white powder brandished in the UN Assembly that could be and was to be launched in 45 minutes ........


Doesnt that same argument nip your original assertion - that merely painting your fighters in somebody else's colours can be used as cover - in the age of today's technology!
Can that fool any of the powers out there!
Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
Anti_Burglar
#1620 Posted : Wednesday, October 12, 2016 1:50:58 PM
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Ngalaka wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
Intelligentsia wrote:



Air force's have over decades been simulating & even conducting aerial trainings & manoeuvres (sorties/ dogfights) using enemy aircraft to assess performance of the enemy's craft as well as their own against the same aircraft. Even using their paint schemes is fair game.

1) The Hornet here is the 'aggressor' fighter
(simulates a 'bogey'/ 'bandit'- hostile and
unidentified aircrafts), used for training
purposes.

2) This appears a 2014 or so vid, not Syrian theatre, go to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QunNlF7-BUE

Or could be Uncle Sam is terrified (justifiably so) of the lethal, very formidable and very highly capable Russian S-400 missile SAM (can shoot any flying object - even one as small as a football travelling at supersonic speed).



Oh, Intelligentsia, who needs to repaint planes for "training"? USAF? The greatest airforce in the world? These are not WW2 planes. They have all sorts of cutting edge electronics to identify friend and foe (IFF systems) which enables the super clever pilots to fight at night, in bad weather and even . . . . in zero visibility. Surely. trying to explain this away is comical.

Remember the vial of white powder brandished in the UN Assembly that could be and was to be launched in 45 minutes ........


Doesnt that same argument nip your original assertion - that merely painting your fighters in somebody else's colours can be used as cover - in the age of today's technology!
Can that fool any of the powers out there!


Are you talking to me? Surely your comment is meant for Intelligence.

Anyway, I intimated when dragging in Alphdoti that these newly painted Hornets are meant to be seen at the appropriate time and place. Maybe so that the appropriate blame can be put on the real owners of planes that had such a colour (after all such coloured planes "seen" flying overhead - by "distressed women and children" perhaps) and by the time world citizens realize the truth of the planes, another Shock and Awe has been achieved and there is pretty much nothing more to be done.

Just like the vial.
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