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A kind request for information; I'm wondering why the recent IFB of 13,7% attracted 72B out of a request of 76B, then the subsequent tap sale this week only attracted 6B out of a request of 20B! Is it that people were not intrested in such high rates of return? Veterans, blindly π 60% Learning, 30% synthesizing, 10% Debating
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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Thitifini wrote:A kind request for information;
I'm wondering why the recent IFB of 13,7% attracted 72B out of a request of 76B, then the subsequent tap sale this week only attracted 6B out of a request of 20B! Is it that people were not intrested in such high rates of return?
Veterans, blindly π
Liquidity crunch...all monies already mopped. Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,678 Location: NAIROBI
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Impunity wrote:Thitifini wrote:A kind request for information;
I'm wondering why the recent IFB of 13,7% attracted 72B out of a request of 76B, then the subsequent tap sale this week only attracted 6B out of a request of 20B! Is it that people were not intrested in such high rates of return?
Veterans, blindly π
Liquidity crunch...all monies already mopped. Interest rates have to go up for subscription to improve. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 398 Location: Where everyone knows you
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 398 Location: Where everyone knows you
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/6/2008 Posts: 3,548
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[quote=MatataMingi]Just look at this report. https://www.businessdail...rnment-billions-3918168[/quote] Kenyans are going to be very broke, this is the reality, even ADB, China Exim, IMF and World Bank will run away. A New Kenya
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/2/2010 Posts: 1,066
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One of the options on the table will be to increase taxes. So brace yourselves for higher taxes in future.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 398 Location: Where everyone knows you
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Yes, indeed that is an option, ill advised though. Serious investors will, however, be looking at NET returns. Raising taxes will not achieve anything. The current government has buried themselves in a debit crises. Things are looking really bad, for the incoming President, whoever it maybe.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 398 Location: Where everyone knows you
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/2/2010 Posts: 1,066
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MatataMingi wrote:https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/bd/markets/capital-markets/cbk-under-pressure-from-the-rich-to-raise-borrowing-rates-3962924
Interesting article. Makes sense too. This is sensationalism. Rise in interest rates by central banks is NOT unique to Kenya. It is the topic du jour. Most CBs are are having to raise interest rates to curb inflation. .................................. Below is an excerpt from WSJ 2 days ago Central banks around the world are raising their key interest rates in the most widespread tightening of monetary policy on record. Some economists fear they may go too far if they donβt take into account their collective impact on global demand. According to the World Bank, the number of rate increases announced by central banks around the world was the highest in July since records began in the early 1970s. On Wednesday, the Federal Reserve delivered its third 0.75 percentage-point increase in as many meetings. This past week its counterparts in Indonesia, Norway, the Philippines, South Africa, Sweden, Switzerland, Taiwan and the U.K. also upped rates.
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/26/2008 Posts: 384
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CBK recently floated the 14-year IFB and methinks it looks pretty good. Interest rate is expected to be 13.7-14%, more or less the same as last year so with 2M, expect to get 274k biannualy. https://twitter.com/CBKK...cxt=HHwWgoCxwdPCiYAsAAAA
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,678 Location: NAIROBI
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[quote=xtina]CBK recently floated the 14-year IFB and methinks it looks pretty good. Interest rate is expected to be 13.7-14%, more or less the same as last year so with 2M, expect to get 274k biannualy. https://twitter.com/CBKK...xt=HHwWgoCxwdPCiYAsAAAA[/quote] It's tax free hence 14% is too high. It's likely to be 12.5-13% Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 398 Location: Where everyone knows you
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[quote=xtina]CBK recently floated the 14-year IFB and methinks it looks pretty good. Interest rate is expected to be 13.7-14%, more or less the same as last year so with 2M, expect to get 274k biannualy. https://twitter.com/CBKK...xt=HHwWgoCxwdPCiYAsAAAA[/quote] That is 274K annually,NOT biannually.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 4/4/2011 Posts: 94 Location: Nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:[quote=xtina]CBK recently floated the 14-year IFB and methinks it looks pretty good. Interest rate is expected to be 13.7-14%, more or less the same as last year so with 2M, expect to get 274k biannualy. https://twitter.com/CBKK...xt=HHwWgoCxwdPCiYAsAAAA[/quote] It's tax free hence 14% is too high. It's likely to be 12.5-13% It shall be much higher! The June IFB1/2022/018 had a coupon rate of 13.742%. And now, the current yields in the market are much higher with investors expecting a better return. I wouldn't be surprised if the Weighted Average Rate of the Accepted Bids comes in at around 13.9-14.0%
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/26/2008 Posts: 384
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MatataMingi wrote:[quote=xtina]CBK recently floated the 14-year IFB and methinks it looks pretty good. Interest rate is expected to be 13.7-14%, more or less the same as last year so with 2M, expect to get 274k biannualy. https://twitter.com/CBKK...xt=HHwWgoCxwdPCiYAsAAAA[/quote] That is 274K annually,NOT biannually. I meant 274k annually but they pay you twice a year (137k every 6 months))
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/6/2008 Posts: 3,548
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Because there is no handshake and failure of bbi and Croatia, putin, corona resurgence, even eurobond will not be available anymore, we are too divided to invest in, go offshore or invest in any potential stock in technology or from upcoming and in including entrepreneurs who can shift paradigms, gold, oil(bad but profitable in the short term), there is no way entrepreneurs can make money when VAT is 16% add interest 16% add uda taxes 10%, corruption up 12%, add inflation 5%,=59% then add profit, margin another 5% with petrol headed to kes250 and the risk is too high to get this 5% unga 300???, when you look at the pending bills versus growing govt wagebill like new ministries and bigger government to payback political investors. If you are not in government, don't risk investing. Even the old abandoned 1k notes will reappear from bunkers, those who have those banned 1k notes will be the only ones buying treasury bonds and bills and you will see them back in circulation very soon if you have any doubts. Don't risk. A New Kenya
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,678 Location: NAIROBI
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364-day treasury bill interest rate has hit 10%. Now lets wait for the interest rate on the ongoing infrastructure bond. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 4/4/2011 Posts: 94 Location: Nairobi
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mchawi wrote:Ericsson wrote:[quote=xtina]CBK recently floated the 14-year IFB and methinks it looks pretty good. Interest rate is expected to be 13.7-14%, more or less the same as last year so with 2M, expect to get 274k biannualy. https://twitter.com/CBKK...xt=HHwWgoCxwdPCiYAsAAAA[/quote] It's tax free hence 14% is too high. It's likely to be 12.5-13% It shall be much higher! The June IFB1/2022/018 had a coupon rate of 13.742%. And now, the current yields in the market are much higher with investors expecting a better return. I wouldn't be surprised if the Weighted Average Rate of the Accepted Bids comes in at around 13.9-14.0% Aho!!! IFB1/2022/14 at 13.938% Tax free!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,678 Location: NAIROBI
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https://www.businessdail...tober-bond-sale-4014468
Soon interest on infrastructure bonds will exceed 15% Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/11/2006 Posts: 971 Location: Home
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Quote: GetIT411: PRESIDENT Ruto says govt will no longer borrow from capital market-Treasury bills, bonds - at over 10pc; to seek alternatives elsewhere.
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